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NCAA football preseason Top 25

Oh, have no doubt - I'm a gator born 'n bred (not born inbred ;) ). Just stuck in OH for the past 6 yrs but am getting out for good behaviour :) ... kicking one job to the curb and picking up another in PA. Given my druthers, I'd never see snow again except in pictures.


I think OSU would be among the top 2-3 in nearly any conference - this year, last year, the year before as well. I say top 3 because in the SEC they might finish 3rd, but they ought to be higher in any other conference (SEC-ism aside).

Anyone could beat anyone on any given day - I'll agree. The NC and Heisman I can't argue. I can't even say we lost all that much, because we were an underclassman heavy team with few seniors and nfl jumpers. I just know that based on how we played thru the season, we didn't deserve much love (and we didn't get it)....I wish we hadn't lost to a team that lost to ASU at home - but it didn't surprise me.



Btw, most of my OSU-hatism comes from living here when muh gators beat 'em, and how annoying my coworkers were up to that point. I think I've said before that I've got a lot of respect for Tressel, and for the program (how many people are consistently atop their league...regardless of how the league is perceived... and regularly in the big bowl games? The only comparison I can think of is USC, which isn't bad company to be in for that category).

Seriously, what's the worst bowl OSU has gotten into while Tressel has been there? Have they ever NOT gone to a bowl under him? They may not have won those bowls, or even been 'competitive', and that can be attributed to many things, but to consistently be there. That says something. It says 'weak conference'
 
wow. look at everyone being so civil.

let me shake things up.

Beanie Wells is going to win the Heisman Trophy this year.

and guess who is going to win the Heisman Trophy the following two years?

Terrelle Pryor.
 
axl blaze said:
wow. look at everyone being so civil.

let me shake things up.

Beanie Wells is going to win the Heisman Trophy this year.

and guess who is going to win the Heisman Trophy the following two years?

Terrelle Pryor.

Too bad Sam Bradford and OU's new no huddle offense are going to put Pryor and Wells to shame. ;)

Anyways, as we all know (in Norman) this is the Sooner's year for the NC! Decent schedule, but not too good. Our team is going to be bloodthirsty after putting up an abysmal performance (lots of injuries and a stupid arrest are a bit at fault) against a hungry WV team with something to prove. GO SOONERS!!!:D =D
 
LoveBandit, for once I'm not angry after you post something. I like that:)

I can respect that, buckeye fans can be pretty obnoxious (I'm no exception) but just like Boston fans and Yankee fans, it's simply because we aren't used to losing.

And everyone from ESPN to Fox Sports to ABC told us constantly that OSU was gonna crush Florida. Last year was different cause we were expected to lose.

Sure I talked some trash, but I was excited for the game and hoping my Bucks would silence the critics.
But I wasn't surprised when they lost.

meh, should be a good year for CF. And my Reds are already done for the year, so what else do I really have to look forward to?
 
Shimmer.Fade said:
Too bad Sam Bradford and OU's new no huddle offense are going to put Pryor and Wells to shame. ;)

Anyways, as we all know (in Norman) this is the Sooner's year for the NC! Decent schedule, but not too good. Our team is going to be bloodthirsty after putting up an abysmal performance (lots of injuries and a stupid arrest are a bit at fault) against a hungry WV team with something to prove. GO SOONERS!!!:D =D

I agree, the Sooners are the easy choice for one of the teams who will be playing in the National Championship this years. the stars have aligned perfectly for them.

who will take the other spot? OSU or UGA? if OSU can win their third game they are also a safe bet, as Georgia will most likely drop a game or two.

to be honest, I have always dreamed of a Sooners VS Buckeyes NC. two very respectable football schools.
 
I liked the espn.com feature on the BCS at 10 years...nice little breakdown of each major conference and their dealings with the controversial system...worth a read for any college football fan...

maybe I just liked it because of this lovely fact...:D

Since the beginning of the BCS Era in 1998, the Pac-10 is 9-6 against the SEC and 5-2 in games played on the West Coast.
 
Which preseason "Top" ranking is the standard?

Just curious, because I've seen about 13 different "Top" rankings (e.g. CNNSI.com, CSTV.com, CBSSports.com, etc.).
 
Most of us just go with the ESPN version as a central talking point, but they wouldn't be any more valid than CNN or CBS or the others, I suppose. But by sticking with one common one, we avoid those who seek out the "Ms. Walpole's Underwear and Sports Column" that ranks Stanford ahead of Michigan for whatever reasons suit her ;)
 
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Catching up on my ESPN articles...it appears they did their 'BCS at 10' series and have now looked at how each of the major conferences have benefited from the BCS (and guided some of the tweaks along the way). From the SEC version of BCS benefits:
Four SEC teams have won BCS national championships -- Tennessee in 1998, LSU in 2003, Florida in 2006 and LSU in 2007. No other conference can claim more than two BCS national titles.

And when it comes to overall records in all BCS bowl games, the SEC blows away everybody else with an 11-4 mark. The Pac-10 is 8-4, and the Big East 6-4. The other three major conferences -- Big Ten (8-9), Big 12 (6-8 ) and ACC (1-9) -- all have losing records in BCS bowl games.

Though the Big10+1 version touts having the most teams in BCS games (17), I didn't realize the records for the various conferences was so lopsided. I have a love-hate with the bowl season, seeing as how you get such bad mis-matches based on conference alignements to bowls and nods to lesser teams with better attendance in certain situations, but the BCS, it's supposed to be the best of the sport. Yeah, there will be lopsided games (UGA-HA?), but it is supposed to be the best teams....and for SEC to be so dominant really does surprise me.
 
Pander Bear said:
I'm surprised LSU is as high as they are, given periloux's dismissal.

Yea me too and w/ Perilloux LSU might have been a Top 5 team....But LSU has a pretty damm good O-Line and a killer backfield....and the D should be top notch as always...

As was mentioned, all the QB has to do is NOT make many mistakes....and convert a thrid down every once in a while...

Who knows he could turn into OU's Sam Bradford of last year
 
UPDATE: UGA is back where it belongs. ;)

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/columns/story?columnist=schlabach_mark&id=3459463

Bulldogs back at No. 1 in updated Top 25
By Mark Schlabach
ESPN.com

The calendar turns to July next week, leaving a little more than two months until the 2008 season kicks off.

If your favorite team made headlines during the past two months, the news probably wasn't good. Off-field problems and arrests have littered the college football landscape since spring practice ended, affecting many of the country's top teams.

Georgia and Ohio State remain atop the preseason Top 25 poll for 2008, although the Bulldogs and Buckeyes have flipped top spots since the May 9 edition.

And in what should be a surprise for many college football fans, Notre Dame debuts at No. 25 -- even after last season's 3-9 disaster.

1. Georgia Bulldogs
Bulldogs coach Mark Richt has some lingering personnel issues as preseason camp approaches. Starting fullback Brannan Southerland, one of the country's best lead blockers, will miss the first five games with a foot injury. Possible starting defensive end Jeremy Lomax and offensive lineman Clint Boling have pending legal problems; Lomax was arrested on concealed weapons charges and Boling was charged with DUI. But QB Matthew Stafford and RB Knowshon Moreno keep the expectations high in Athens.

2. Ohio State Buckeyes
Starting quarterback Todd Boeckman better stay healthy after backup Antonio Henton transferred to Division I-AA Georgia Southern. Henton's departure opens the door for highly regarded freshman Terrelle Pryor, who might be utilized like Florida's Tim Tebow was used as a freshman.

3. Oklahoma Sooners
Sooners coach Bob Stoops spent much of the spring talking to boosters about his team's 5-1 record in Big 12 championship games. But many OU boosters still want to know what went wrong in Oklahoma's 1-4 record in its past five bowl games. Oklahoma's players are reminded of their 48-28 loss to West Virginia in the Fiesta Bowl each time they walk into the school's football complex. A banner displays a quote from Mountaineers quarterback Patrick White, who said his team "wanted it more."

4. USC Trojans
A video of USC assistant coach Brennan Carroll putting walk-ons through a tryout was yanked off YouTube after some viewers objected to the coach's foul language. Trojans coach Pete Carroll said the video was a spoof and his program was only trying to have fun. What's not funny: The NCAA is poking around alleged rules violations involving former Trojans basketball star O.J. Mayo -- and is still trying to get to the bottom of the Reggie Bush scandal.

5. Florida Gators
Bad news for Florida's opponents: Speedy junior receiver Percy Harvin is ahead of schedule in his recovery from offseason heel surgery. Gators coach Urban Meyer believes his offense might be better than it was a year ago, when Florida led the SEC in scoring with 42.5 points per game. Just don't ask Meyer if quarterback Tim Tebow will run the football less often in 2008; that subject remains taboo in Gainesville.

6. Clemson Tigers
Tigers coach Tommy Bowden can begin feeling the pressure from his new $1.83 million contract. Clemson will try to win its first ACC title under Bowden without starting middle linebacker Cortney Vincent, who was dismissed from the team in May. Vincent started 12 of 13 games and had 68 tackles and seven tackles for loss. The Tigers will now be without their top four linebackers from last season.

7. West Virginia Mountaineers
Mountaineers coach Bill Stewart dismissed safety Charles Pugh from the team following his arrest for allegedly using a stolen credit card. Pugh is the fourth West Virginia player -- and third potential defensive starter -- to be dismissed from the team by Stewart. Linebacker John Holmes and defensive lineman James Ingram were kicked off the team following their arrests for possession of marijuana. Stewart allowed former running back Jason Gwaltney to rejoin the team, but he won't be eligible to play during the 2008 season.

8. Texas Tech Red Raiders
The battle for the starting tailback job got a little thinner when Red Raiders coach Mike Leach suspended junior Kobey Lewis from the team for an unspecified violation of team rules. Lewis, who ran 50 times for 189 yards and two touchdowns in 2007, left spring practice in a four-player battle for the starting job. Shannon Woods, Baron Batch and Aaron Crawford will continue the competition during preseason camp. Safety Steven Harris, a special-teams standout, also was suspended for the 2008 season.

9. Missouri Tigers
The defending Big 12 North champions started voluntary summer workouts a week earlier for the second year in a row. The Tigers are without junior receiver Danario Alexander, who caught 37 passes for 417 yards and two touchdowns last season. Alexander underwent surgery earlier this month to repair damage in his left knee. There is good news for Missouri coach Gary Pinkel. Tight end Chase Coffman is fully recovered from surgery to remove bone spurs from his ankle.

10. Auburn Tigers
New offensive coordinator Tony Franklin still hasn't settled on a starting quarterback, so offseason workouts will be very important for Chris Todd and Kodi Burns. Todd, a JC transfer, seems to have a better understanding of Franklin's spread offense, but he was plagued by shoulder problems during spring practice. Burns is a better runner, but Franklin wants to see more consistency from the sophomore.

11. Texas Longhorns
Backup quarterback John Chiles will spend the summer trying to get a better grip of the offense. With the Longhorns trying to replace tailback Jamaal Charles, coach Mack Brown said he intends to use starting quarterback Colt McCoy and Chiles on offense. Look for Texas to be more creative on offense, incorporating some of the trick plays it used in a 52-34 victory over Arizona State in the Holiday Bowl.

12. LSU Tigers
All eyes are on LSU's quarterbacks this summer, after heir apparent Ryan Perrilloux was dismissed from the team during the spring. Tigers coach Les Miles hinted during speaking engagements this spring that junior Andrew Hatch, a Harvard transfer, might have the edge over redshirt freshman Jarrett Lee. Highly regarded freshman Jordan Jefferson joins the competition during preseason camp.

13. BYU Cougars
The Cougars have their sights set on a BCS bowl invitation, but they'll have to do it without top fullback Manase Tonga. The senior was ruled academically ineligible and will miss the 2008 season. Tonga ran for 305 yards and eight touchdowns and caught 27 passes for 248 yards last season. He also was a great lead blocker for Harvey Unga, who last year became the first BYU freshman to run for more than 1,000 yards in a season.

14. Tennessee Volunteers
New starting quarterback Jonathan Crompton is throwing again after undergoing arthroscopic surgery on his right elbow in late April. Crompton and the Volunteers' returning receivers will need summer workouts to iron out the offense installed by new offensive coordinator Dave Clawson. The Vols are holding their collective breath while waiting to see if junior running back Montario Hardesty fully recovers from a stress fracture in his lower leg.

15. Arizona State Sun Devils
Sun Devils coach Dennis Erickson said quarterback Rudy Carpenter has fully recovered after undergoing surgery on his right thumb following spring practice. Erickson said Carpenter is in better physical condition and showed better mobility. Michael Jones, the Sun Devils' most experienced receiver, was selected in the 29th round of the amateur baseball draft by the New York Yankees earlier this month.

16. Wisconsin Badgers
Kansas State transfer Allan Evridge wasn't named the Badgers' starting quarterback after spring practice, but the fifth-year senior has the edge over less experienced candidates. Coach Bret Bielema hopes Evrdige will take control of the team during voluntary summer workouts, but junior Dustin Sherer remains in the hunt for the starting job. Sherer has spent three seasons in the Wisconsin program, attempting only three passes.

17. Kansas Jayhawks
Juco running back Jocques Crawford arrived in Lawrence for summer school and immediately turned heads. Crawford ran for nearly 2,000 yards and 19 touchdowns at Cisco (Texas) Junior College. The national JC player of the year is expected to share carries with junior Jake Sharp in the Jayhawks' spread offense this coming season.

18. Illinois Fighting Illini
Senior receiver Kyle Hudson, who caught 12 passes for 127 yards and one touchdown last season, will forgo his final season of eligibility. Hudson, a two-sport star, was selected by the Baltimore Orioles in the fourth round of the amateur baseball draft earlier this month.

19. Pittsburgh Panthers
Sophomore Maurice Williams, the Panthers' most impressive receiver during spring practice, has been ruled academically ineligible for the 2008 season. Williams, who caught five passes for 100 yards last season, was battling Oderick Turner for the starting split end job. Williams plans to remain in school and would have three seasons of eligibility remaining.

20. Virginia Tech Hokies
The Hokies are hoping redshirt freshman Darren Evans has a better summer than their previous starting tailback did. Evans, a former Indiana Mr. Football, emerged as the leading contender to start at tailback after Branden Ore was dismissed from the team. Evans had a slight edge over redshirt freshman Josh Oglesby after spring practice. Juniors Kenny Lewis Jr. and Jahre Cheeseman were sidelined by injuries during the spring.

21. Oregon Ducks
Can Oregon's quarterback competition get any more crowded? The Ducks figure to have at least six players battling for the right to replace Dennis Dixon when preseason camp opens. Sophomore Nate Costa, who had knee surgery last fall, left spring practice as the favorite. Sophomore Justin Roper, who starred in the Sun Bowl victory over South Florida, is probably his closest competitor. Two freshmen -- Darron Thomas and Chris Harper -- enrolled at Oregon before spring drills, and JC transfer Jeremiah Masoli joins the battle this summer. Junior walk-on Cade Cooper also is competing for the job.

22. Wake Forest Demon Deacons
How much have expectations changed in Winston-Salem, N.C.? The Demon Deacons are again considered to be ACC championship contenders after posting consecutive winning seasons, which included the 2006 ACC title. Since the ACC was formed in 1953, the Demon Deacons have never had three straight winning seasons.

23. Fresno State Bulldogs
The Bulldogs open the season at Rutgers on Sept. 1, but coach Pat Hill is calling the Sept. 13 home game against Wisconsin the biggest game in Bulldog Stadium history. With 16 starters back from a team that finished 9-4 in 2007, Fresno State is a popular choice to unseat Boise State and Hawaii in the WAC and contend for a spot in a BCS bowl game.

24. Penn State Nittany Lions
Penn State's five senior captains vow the off-field problems that plagued the Nittany Lions before the 2007 season are a thing of the past. During a news conference in Happy Valley earlier this month, senior linebacker Sean Lee told reporters, "If you want to be on this team, you have to be with us. If not, get out." One thing that won't go away: speculation about 81-year-old coach Joe Paterno's future at Penn State.

25. Notre Dame Fighting Irish
Athletic director Kevin White leaving Notre Dame for Duke might have been a sign of impending doom for the Fighting Irish, but NBC thought enough of their future to renew its TV contract another five years. Notre Dame returns 17 starters, including quarterback Jimmy Clausen. The Irish schedule includes four home games in the first five weeks of the season, and Charlie Weis might have the right mix to get Notre Dame back into a bowl game.
 
Notre Dame is number 25?! umm.... they went 3-9 last year. sadly, I am starting to lose all hope in the BCS system (and this is coming from an Ohio State fan). what's more shocking is apprently NBC renewed its 5 year TV contract with the lackluster Irish, so I will be forced to watch many of their debacles of games for another season.

I guess having Jesus on your side, along with that stupid fucking movie Rudi, will pay off eternally.
 
PS
RIP Uga VI
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TEN GAMES TO WATCH IN 2008
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/writers/stewart_mandel/06/30/ten.defining.games/index.html
A year ago this time, no one would have predicted a Thanksgiving weekend game between Missouri and Kansas would wind up one of the most highly viewed of the season. Or that USC's game against Stanford would carry greater implications than its subsequent trip to Cal.

But who are we kidding? We're college football fans. We're still going to circle certain games on the calendar months before their arrival with the anticipation that these showdowns will carry monumental stakes by the time they're played.

Here are 10 potentially season-defining games in 2008:

1. Ohio State at USC, Sept. 13. This showdown of likely top five teams is as much about credibility as anything. After consecutive BCS title game whitewashings, the Buckeyes desperately need a win, or at least a down-to-the-wire finish, to show they're capable of competing at the highest level. New Trojans starting QB Mark Sanchez, meanwhile, will be under the prime-time spotlight.

2. Florida vs. Georgia, Nov. 1. While the annual Cocktail Party in Jacksonville is always a huge deal for Dawgs and Gators fans, rarely has it garnered the type of national attention that will likely surround the game should both teams maintain their hold in the national-title race. Florida has won 15 of the past 18 meetings, but Georgia seemed to break the hex with an emotional 42-30 win last season.

3. Georgia at Arizona State, Sept. 20. Long before the Dawgs get their shot at the Gators, they'll need to survive both the desert heat and a program on the rise in a rare (for Georgia) intersectional matchup. Sun Devils QB Rudy Carpenter is a proven commodity, but he'll need a dramatically improved offensive line to survive Georgia's suffocating defensive front. ASU allowed 55 sacks last season.

4. Oklahoma vs. Texas, Oct. 11. While it's no guarantee the two Red River rivals will make it to their Shootout unscathed -- Oklahoma faces early challenges from Cincinnati, Washington and TCU; Texas faces old nemesis Arkansas -- they're still likely to be vying for no less than a Big 12 championship. Between them, the two schools have won five of the past six crowns (though the Sooners claimed all but one of those).

5. Ohio State at Wisconsin, Oct. 4.
While many cynics assume the loaded Buckeyes will once again cruise through the "soft" Big Ten, this game represents an unquestioned challenge. The last time these teams played in Madison, in 2003, the Badgers snapped a 19-game Ohio State winning streak -- and that was before Wisconsin began its current run of four-straight seasons of nine or more victories.

6. LSU at Auburn, Sept. 20. No SEC rivalry has been more intense in recent years than this one. The winner has gone on to claim the West Division title in six of the past eight seasons, and the past four meetings have all been decided by six points or less. Whoever wins will pave the path for even bigger games later on -- both face Georgia and Alabama, while Auburn hosts Tennessee and LSU visits Florida.

7. Texas at Texas Tech, Nov. 1. The schedule sets up favorably for the Red Raiders -- who return QB Graham Harrell, WR Michael Crabtree and eight other starters on offense -- to make a run at their first Big 12 South title, but to do so they'll almost certainly have to snap their five-game losing streak to the Longhorns. The ever-outspoken Mike Leach claims poor officiating contributed to the past two defeats.

8. Missouri vs. Kansas, Nov. 29.
It is highly unlikely this year's Border War will carry quite the same gargantuan stakes as last season, particularly for the Jayhawks, who play a much tougher schedule this season. Don't be surprised, however, if Chase Daniel and the Tigers go into this game with multiple title aspirations, especially since they face neither Oklahoma nor Texas Tech during the regular season.

9. Auburn at West Virginia, Oct. 23.
While the game has no bearing on the Mountaineers' attempt to repeat as Big East champs, a victory over a respected SEC foe would do wonders for their résumé should they enter the national-title discussion. This Thursday-night showcase is also likely to play a key role in West Virginia QB Pat White's quest for the Heisman.

10. BYU at Utah, Nov. 22. If the pundits are correct, the highly touted Cougars (22-4 over the past two seasons) could go into their season-ending rivalry game with a BCS berth on the line. It's not inconceivable, however, that the Utes could be playing for the same stakes. They return nearly the entire offense after winning eight of their last nine a year ago -- the sole defeat coming on a last-second touchdown by BYU in Provo.
 
yeah, yeah, yeah! bring on college football! it's amazing how the city of Columbus seems to be already on the verge of busting for another year of college football. Columbus is college football at its best and most traditional, this is our pro football team you can have the Clowns and Bungals.

of course the USC game is the first on the list. finally the Buckeyes are back to playing national powerhouses (like two years ago and the many years before that). I like playing a national contender this early in the year because it lets you know right away if you are a national contender, or not. can't beat Texas second game in the year? well, sorry, can't be in the National Championship.

of course the Buckeyes at Wisconsin is going to be a helluva game - it always is! I respect everything the SEC dominating Wisconsin Badgers bring to the table - most specifically their run game which can be almost symmetrical to OSU.

anyways, people seem to think of a UGA VS OSU National Championship. I say UGA is going to drop two, and we are going to see a OSU VS Oklahoma Sooners match-up - with Chris "Beanie" Wells easily winning the Heisman this year.
 
I didn't want that team last year to go into the National Title, we were good and maybe one of college footballs best, but I just felt like that team was nowhere near as good as the elite OSU teams of the past that personified perfection.

our QB is back again, and he is quite ugly, but he can throw the long ball (which he loves). I think that our defense and run game will allow us to FINALLY win the National Title this year.

and watch out for Terelle Pryor, our freshman sensation QB. I expect he will be peppered in once and a while ala Tim Tebow for lots of QB running plays in the spread offense.

anyways, I think this is finally our year as a Buckeye fan. next year will be slightly down, but I think we will repeat as National Champions after that with Pryor as the skipper of the Buckeyes.

I have such a passion for college football as a whole, I am have more passion than just being a homer, I wish many of my sports and gaming haters could see that. soon enough a playoff system will be incorporated for the better of all of us.
 
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