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Naturally Depleting Seretonin

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I am just wondering if anyone knows whether nerves and anxiousness actually reduce seretonin levels.

The reason I bring this up is because I am getting pretty excited about an event coming up in the next few days, and at work today I started feeling a bit of a nervous buzz about the weekend. It sort of felt like I was experiencing the early, early stages of a come-on of a pill.

This has happened before. I have been really excited about an event, getting this buzz, even getting a little sleepless the nights leading up to it. And then, when I go to take my bikkies, I don't get as fried as everyone else. (These were green armani's too people, don't try to tell me the gear could have been no good).

The times when I have been most severely mashed have been times when I hadn't planned on rolling, yet the situation arose on the night (hence no anxious feelings beforehand).

So I guess what I'm trying to say is - Is it possible that being overly excited about something actually lead to early seretonin depletion in the days leading up to when you drop, leaving you with little left on the night. Or is this just bollocks?

Anyway, I'm off to find somewhere to calm down.
 
Unfortunately I cant really answer the whole seretonin depletion question... but just to throw something in..

Is it possible that the reason why you arent rolling as hard is because you've basically built the whole thing up so much and you're so excited about being mashed that you overanalyse whats going on.. therefore not feeling quite so mashed.

I've had nights where I was so eager to do pills, that when I finally did them I sat around thinking "comeon... whens this gonna come on???" and in effect sit there for a few hours thinking "is this it? is this it?" and not experiencing anything. Then once I gave up and forgot about it suddenly I was on the floor..

It seems theres a very big mind over matter kind of thing with drugs. If you try too hard you often find you dont actually get as much of an effect as someone who just dropped and forgot they'd had it. Like they say, its amazing what set and setting will do for one's experience.

Just a little to get you thinking.

stace.
 
I don't think it's possible to expend serotonin to the point where it'd effect your pill just by being excited throughout the week. Your brain is no doubt used to anticipation/excitement as you've probably experienced it since you were very young.

I think stacyrox has hit the nail on the head really, you seem to be thinking about it an awful lot. When you're looking forward to something so much, you can easily build unrealistic expectations for the occasion. It's like when films such as Star Wars are about to be released - everyone is so excited and expecting such a good movie that nothing could live up to expectations no matter how good it were... And thus everyone is dissapointed, because their expectations weren't met. If you build up expectations over the week leading up to a pill, it's always going to have a difficult time living up to what you've got in mind.

There is of course also the possibility that you are 'losing the magic' - how long have you been taking pills? How regularly?
 
Its not a matter of "losing the magic" i dont think. What i've described happened around october, and I've had some great pilling experiences since. I probably on average take about 2-3 bikkies every 3-4 weeks... Not overkill by any respect.

Basically my thread was just seeing whether there are other triggers bar MDMA that can release seretonin in much the same way.

In any case, I'm just gonna chill for the next couple o days, Sunday is gonna be massive.
 
What MDMA does with serotonin in the brain is pretty unique and nothing like it is usually mimicked without MDMA.

I noticed a problem like this too. I started to question the effectiveness of substances when I should have been questioning the effectiveness my thought were having over myself. The trouble was, every time I had a really good time, I would try so hard to remember it. Remember what it was I took, where I was, who I was with, etc, etc, and sometimes I would try and recreate these situations. That was the problems. The fun times that you have in the past are really times there are going to be left there never to return. We can build hype up about making an event as fun as something we remember, but really it will never be the same. I had to learn to stop trying to make everything I went to, weather it be a rave, music festival, club, whatever, a recreation of something I've done before. Dont go into these events with high expectations of it being a fun night because you've got your drugs, and its seemingly all planned. Instead, go into it with a sense of the unknown, and try and make it a night to remember that way!
 
Your question has been answered, but I just thought I'd throw in that 2-3 pills every 3-4 weeks isn't overkill in the short term, but I'd be surprised if you didn't develop a noticable tolerance if you did that for a year.

Every couple of months try and have a months break and your tolerance should remain non-existent :)
 
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