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Natural effective relief for chronic pain?
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Foreigner
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Rubbing alcohol is for external use only. So yes, you can use it for topical cayenne. BUT DON'T DRINK IT. If you want to have a solution that you can take internally, you need to use vodka, brandy, or another high proof drinkable alcohol.
"Energy" is kind of a nebulous term. There are many reasons why people might feel like they have no energy. Poor circulation? Hypothyroid? Adrenal burnout? Poor nutrition?
If ginseng didn't work then either it might not've been the right preparation. This is common, most OTC ginseng products are *very* weak. You need to buy whole ginseng root and boil it yourself, but real Chinese ginseng is really expensive. An alternative you can try instead is codonopsis (dang shen 党参), but for that you need a Chinatown herb store. It's super common. If that doesn't work, then your problem isn't related to low basal metabolism due to chronic disease.
The other root causes of chronic fatigue can't be diagnosed online, either by an MD or a holistic health practitioner. You'd need to see someone in person. If you have a Chinatown near you with an herb shop, chances are they'll have a practitioner on site who can use the traditional diagnostic methods (taking your pulse, looking at your tongue, etc). Hopefully they know English
"Energy" is kind of a nebulous term. There are many reasons why people might feel like they have no energy. Poor circulation? Hypothyroid? Adrenal burnout? Poor nutrition?
If ginseng didn't work then either it might not've been the right preparation. This is common, most OTC ginseng products are *very* weak. You need to buy whole ginseng root and boil it yourself, but real Chinese ginseng is really expensive. An alternative you can try instead is codonopsis (dang shen 党参), but for that you need a Chinatown herb store. It's super common. If that doesn't work, then your problem isn't related to low basal metabolism due to chronic disease.
The other root causes of chronic fatigue can't be diagnosed online, either by an MD or a holistic health practitioner. You'd need to see someone in person. If you have a Chinatown near you with an herb shop, chances are they'll have a practitioner on site who can use the traditional diagnostic methods (taking your pulse, looking at your tongue, etc). Hopefully they know English
SixBuckets
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It should be noted that both ginseng and St John's wort can interact dangerously with psychiatric medication, so avoid them if you're taking antidepressants or antipsychotics.
Unfortunately I wouldn't know where to begin to find a Chinatown shop near me. We have a small herb store where I get chamomile and stuff but they aren't very knowledgeable. It's been 24 hours since I started the magnesium and iodine. I'm still having some pain but my energy level has improved and I am more relaxed. Hoping this is from the supplements and not just a rare "good day" for me. Time will tell, but hopefully I am on the right track. Being more relaxed and energetic are huge for me because I an usually tired and stressed and stress has a huge impact on fibromyalgia. I also noticed after my morning dose I had horrible burning pee like a bladder infection, but I drank some water and it went away. Wondering if it's the supplements cleaning my body?
Erikmen
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Exercises helped me a lot when I quit opiates nearly 11 months ago.
It helps when I feel lethargic.
It's difficult in the beginning but if you manage to do it regularly you'll feel the benefits.
This was one of the suggestions I actually learned to appreciate reading some of these helpful recovery threads when I first began.
NSA knows a lot about that.
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Foreigner
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Not so much cleaning your body but calming your nervous system, probably. Magnesium is good like that.
Kittycat5
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Foreigner, I am interested in why ginseng is not utilized for pain. I know you are a practitioner of traditional eastern medicine and realize the differences between western and eastern medicine, but there has been a good amount of data that some of the ginsenosides have analgesic and antiinflammatory action. Most data is still confined to animal studies but there is some, albeit few, human studies with at least a couple with positive results.
effingcustie
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These are good advice. I'm going to disagree with whoever said to micro-dose cannabis though - to get the painkilling effect takes fairly high dosages, generally you will have more success dealing with pain by taking it orally rather than smoking. The psychoactive effects of cannabis are something that comes along with the other ones, it's more a matter of finding a strain that works for you and learning to navigate the headspace. A lot of medical marijuana patients take very high dosages, but they have a tolerance built up so the psychoactive effects aren't so strong when taking the doses needed for medical relief. It takes a while to build this tolerance so you want to start small and gradually increase your dose.
Choosing the right strain is very important. Sativas will be more likely to give you paranoia or anxiety, whereas Indicas will generally be more sedating and better for pain. High CBD strains can be really useful for medical patients who don't want to get really high (this is a fairly new movement to breed cannabis strains that are very high in the chemical CBD, but much lower in THC than most medical cannabis strains. Harlequin is a popular one that's supposed to be really good for pain issues without having much of a high). Finding particular strains, or even knowing what strain you're getting, is a lot easier in a medical state though of course.