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Narcan / naloxone

Like Stee, when I went over in 2000, I was between habits so had zero tolerance. Id also been eating clonazepam like sweets for the preceding month, so banging some gear wasn't the wisest decision. I even spilt the first attempt cos I was so fucked - I should have given up there, but stupidly I cooked another.

I only had a 1/4 of a bag, but with all the benzos, it took me right over the edge. But rather than just falling into a nod I couldn't be roused from, I knew something was very wrong when the rush hit and didn't stop - it just carried on building in intensity until I was overwhelmed and went down like a sack of spuds. The last thing I remember was my mate saying "have you got pins and needles in your head?" I replied with "they're all over my fucking body!"

The next thing I knew was waking up in hospital just as the doctor was withdrawing the needle. Because I didn't have a habit, there were no precipated withdrawals, in fact I felt ace, just a little bemused. They kept me in overnight for observation, but let me go next morning.

Afaik, I wasn't given naloxone by the paramedics, only by the doctor. Wasn't it standard kit in 2000?

When the paramedics arrived and my Mrs had told them what I'd taken (she even gave them the last of my clonaz - which I wasn't happy about), they got me in the ambulance and just as Mrs Fubz was about to get in they suddenly slammed the door shut on her. 5 minutes later they let her in. Apparently my heart had stopped and that's when the defib came out. My t-shirt had been slit open as well. Is that standard practice?
 
As for shutting the door its standard practice....its just too stressfull for family members to whatch what we do. As for narcan in 2000 not sure....we used to give IV tramadol or nubain years ago but i only qualified in 2001 so cant really say.

Pleased your ok bud <3

Edit...t shirt split, chest gjve a quick shave, nipple rings (and underwire bras)) all removed and nitro-gglcyerin patches removed all standard practice for safety
 
I always wondered if narcan/naloxone etc gave non-habituated individuals precipitated withdrawals.
The answer seemed sorta obvious, but it is sometimes a confusing subject - especially after i read in a medical journal that suboxone is "abuse proof" in that it can't be injected because it causes precipitated withdrawal (knowing full well that it doesn't - unless people already have gear in their systems - not that shooting subs is a good idea regardless), so i'm sometimes a little dubious of reports on the phenomenon.

Interesting to read people's experiences - learn something new every day.
Cheers Englandgz, hope you're doing alright mate :)
 
englandgz74 said:
As for shutting the door its standard practice....its just too stressfull for family members to whatch what we do. As for narcan in 2000 not sure....we used to give IV tramadol or nubain years ago but i only qualified in 2001 so cant really say.

Pleased your ok bud <3

Edit...t shirt split, chest gjve a quick shave, nipple rings (and underwire bras)) all removed and nitro-gglcyerin patches removed all standard practice for safety
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Ah, perhaps the hastily performed chest shave would explain the soreness I felt around my moobs..
 
SquidInSunglasses said:
That was probably just one of the medics doing an impromptu drum solo on your moobs for a laugh.
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Hey, I was out cold. For all I know, he could have given them a good mashing and sucking as well. (Come to think of it, I seem to remember having a sore arse and something slimey in my mouth :( ) Still, its a small price for saving my life...

Don't get any ideas Englandgz.. ;)
 
Actually i once cut my finger on an unsheashed bic (they're kept in a pouch in the lifepack). It was a righg fuck on...Aids test, hospital admission etc. The person who forgot to sheath in got fucked as well (not literally). Obviously this procedure isnt required on (most) women...... :)
 
spacejunk said:
I always wondered if narcan/naloxone etc gave non-habituated individuals precipitated withdrawals.
The answer seemed sorta obvious, but it is sometimes a confusing subject - especially after i read in a medical journal that suboxone is "abuse proof" in that it can't be injected because it causes precipitated withdrawal (knowing full well that it doesn't - unless people already have gear in their systems - not that shooting subs is a good idea regardless), so i'm sometimes a little dubious of reports on the phenomenon.

Interesting to read people's experiences - learn something new every day.
Cheers Englandgz, hope you're doing alright mate :)
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Thanks SJ im not too bad other than a worrying hospital letter wanting to redo my EEG. Jope youre well brother.

Narcan will not cause precipitated wds in non habituated patients as tberes nothing to unbind from the mu receptor. Ive recently startedd giving it to EVERY ONE i find fucked up on drugs cos even if the say theyve had no heroin you never no ....especially with things like fent adultarants. It cant especially hurt anyone so better safe than sorry (i go through a lot of narcan :))
 
^ exactly. Reading that nonsense in a medical journal at the university i used to work in made me very disillusioned.
Obviously a lie - but nobody would believe what junkies have learned is (or isn't) true, in the medical world.
A scam for the purposes of keeping a patent. I'm no conspiracy theorist either, but it's obviously not a mistake.
Makes me wonder what else is total bullshit in these industries...a disturbing amount, from what i have learned from various medical people i know.
 
Mate most of it is bullshit. Ive worked in the NHS in various forms for years and the ambulance service is the only one who actually give a shit about their patients. I know i moan a lot but i wouldnt work anywhere else.......

Helping your fellow man is the nobolest thing a person can do.....

"Never look down on ANYONE unless you're helping them up"

Peace and love brother <3
 
englandgz74 said:
Mate most of it is bullshit. Ive worked in the NHS in various forms for years and the ambulance service is the only one who actually give a shit about their patients. I know i moan a lot but i wouldnt work anywhere else.......

Helping your fellow man is the nobolest thing a person can do.....

"Never look down on ANYONE unless you're helping them up"

Peace and love brother <3
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Maybe I'm misinterpreting what you're saying but I feel certain that most of the people who have cared for me in the last three years genuinely gave a shit about me. My surgeon and I are friends on Facebook now, he tells me the biggest reward for him is seeing people moving on and leading successful lives. I always pop back in to the ward I spent nearly 100 days on in total when I'm back home and the nurses all seem pleased to see me too (although maybe that's just because I always bring them chocolate). Smiles and hugs all round and I've had a couple of them in tears they've been so glad to see I not only made it through OK but am doing better than ever before. My stoma nurse also cried when he realised he was probably never going to see me again. Maybe I was just very lucky with the hospital I was in but I've seen immense levels of care and compassion pretty much all over that place.

Thats not to say, of course, that what you do isn't absolutely amazing too. I love absolutely everything about our NHS and it terrifies me to think it's under threat from money grabbing politicians and other businesswankers. :(
 
Im refering to NHS support staff (accountants / HR) etc...

I have tge up most respect for nurses, doctors and other frontline staff.

I think youve misinterpreted what i meant....ambulance HR treated me brilliant and care about patients which is unususl front line stsfg thats what i mean..


Sorry for the confusion.
 
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englandgz74 said:
Im refering to NHS support staff (accountants / HR) etc...

I have tge up most respect for nurses, doctors and other frontline staff.

I think youve misinterpreted what i meant....ambulance HR treated me brilliant and care about patients which is unususl front line stsfg thats what i mean..


Sorry for the confusion.
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All good brother. Yeah the bureaucracy surrounding health is a nightmare. Idiots making decisions that effect how we can deliver care with no idea about what we actually do. Dont get me started on those fools..
 
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