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n-Pentanol (Hammilton I think i am wanting you)
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melange
Bluelighter
why don't you understand the chemicals that you are working with?
Very vague question.
I understand the chemicals in the theoretical sense of their effects, but these two are new additions to my personal applications.
The GBL was done for the second time and it is very unbalanced compared to what I had expected, not that great.
I am sorry for the initial post on here but it hit right as I was posting and I couldn't really get much out.
I can dress it up with as much formality as I want but the bare purpose of my post is basically to find out a dosage of n-Pentanol. Hammilton has posted about using it and I would like more.
Fin.
I understand the chemicals in the theoretical sense of their effects, but these two are new additions to my personal applications.
The GBL was done for the second time and it is very unbalanced compared to what I had expected, not that great.
I am sorry for the initial post on here but it hit right as I was posting and I couldn't really get much out.
I can dress it up with as much formality as I want but the bare purpose of my post is basically to find out a dosage of n-Pentanol. Hammilton has posted about using it and I would like more.
Fin.
LivingOnValium
Bluelighter
I find the title of this thread a bit disturbing.
Also when reading the original post i can't help myself not to think that you're enjoying a GHB like sexed up buzz and being horny for Hammilton.
Also when reading the original post i can't help myself not to think that you're enjoying a GHB like sexed up buzz and being horny for Hammilton.
polymath
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I've sometimes handled pentanol in org. chem. lab, and it smelled so foul that I couldn't even imagine drinking it... I can't remember if it was 1-pentanol or 2-pentanol, though. I think the pentanol itself doesn't stink but the oxidation products it forms in contact with air do.
I don't think the potency of n-pentanol is any more than 5 times that of ethanol... Maybe you should make 5ml shots of pentanol and drink them every 30 minutes until you get drunk enough.
To Livingonvalium: lol that was what I thought at first, too...
I don't think the potency of n-pentanol is any more than 5 times that of ethanol... Maybe you should make 5ml shots of pentanol and drink them every 30 minutes until you get drunk enough.
To Livingonvalium: lol that was what I thought at first, too...
sekio
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Straight chain alcohols are still metabolized to the aldehyde equivalents before the carboxylic acids, enjoy your pentanal hangover. I haven't worked with pentanol/pentanal, but i've used hexanal. It makes your eyes burn just getting near the shit - having that in your blood is not a good idea...
Ham-milton has stated that he ingested n-pentanol and experienced no hangover.
Certainly does not smell good but I was under the impression that potency was greater than ethanol and if it is possibly 5 times the potency of ethanol then bottoms up, doesn't smell that damn bad.
To those wondering, yeah I went to post the thread and the GBL was hitting me really hard. Went from basically sober to crosseyed in about 30 seconds. Thats why the post was confusing as hell.
Basically I am asking specifically for Hammilton because he has stated experience with n-pentanol. If anyone else has worked with it, let me know. I am having a hard time trying to gauge how this will be due to everyone moaning. I can drink grain alcohol straight (dumb but just trying to set up a comparison) and the GBL isn't too terrible either, just hoping for more advice.
How bad would this hangover be comparative to ethanol? I am under the impression that less of a dose means less hangover.
To those wondering, yeah I went to post the thread and the GBL was hitting me really hard. Went from basically sober to crosseyed in about 30 seconds. Thats why the post was confusing as hell.
Basically I am asking specifically for Hammilton because he has stated experience with n-pentanol. If anyone else has worked with it, let me know. I am having a hard time trying to gauge how this will be due to everyone moaning. I can drink grain alcohol straight (dumb but just trying to set up a comparison) and the GBL isn't too terrible either, just hoping for more advice.
How bad would this hangover be comparative to ethanol? I am under the impression that less of a dose means less hangover.
sekio
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1-Pentanol has log Pow (partition coefficient, octanol/water) as 1.40, ethanol is -0.32, so i would imagine the increased fat solubility would contribute to an according increase in potency, a la volatile inhalants.
If the dose is reasonbaly low then I see no reason that the hangover eould be terrible, but pentanal is still an irritant like acetaldehyde. However it's used in flavouring compounds (again like acetaldehyde) in low concentrations, so take that as you will...
If the dose is reasonbaly low then I see no reason that the hangover eould be terrible, but pentanal is still an irritant like acetaldehyde. However it's used in flavouring compounds (again like acetaldehyde) in low concentrations, so take that as you will...
polymath
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This subject might need its own thread, but it would be great to get both pure stereoisomers of an alcohol like 2-pentanol that has a chiral carbon atom, and see how different the intoxicating effect of the two isomers is. As you all know, with drugs that bind to some specific receptor, only one isomer is usually active, but with alcohols/other solvents, the situation isn't all that clear.
Volatile anesthetics have a mechanism of action similar to ethanol, and with them, there is some stereospecificity, see http://web.squ.edu.om/med-Lib/MED_CD/E_CDs/anesthesia/site/content/v02/020040r00.htm .
No one has tested how different the effect of two isomers of an inhalational anesthetic would subjectively feel when "huffed" for a "high".
Volatile anesthetics have a mechanism of action similar to ethanol, and with them, there is some stereospecificity, see http://web.squ.edu.om/med-Lib/MED_CD/E_CDs/anesthesia/site/content/v02/020040r00.htm .
No one has tested how different the effect of two isomers of an inhalational anesthetic would subjectively feel when "huffed" for a "high".
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Hammilton
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First of all where did you get your pentanol? If you got it from an RC vendor, I'd be wary. I'm afraid these guys buy industrial solvents and sell them as pharma grade- which they're not.
No one should read what I've done and say to themselves "hey, I'm going to do this too" good god, I have never suggested that anyone use any drug (that's probably not true, but I'd certainly never suggest someone try a relatively untested drug I had tried).
Pentanol was enjoyable for me, I had no hangover, but I took one dose (after working up to figure out what an active dose was) and never redosed. I didn't even take a high dose. But I never take particularly high doses of anything.
edit: if you want to get in contact with me asap, don't ever start a thread. contact me via AIM. At night in the US usually I'm on or my wife is around.
No one should read what I've done and say to themselves "hey, I'm going to do this too" good god, I have never suggested that anyone use any drug (that's probably not true, but I'd certainly never suggest someone try a relatively untested drug I had tried).
Pentanol was enjoyable for me, I had no hangover, but I took one dose (after working up to figure out what an active dose was) and never redosed. I didn't even take a high dose. But I never take particularly high doses of anything.
edit: if you want to get in contact with me asap, don't ever start a thread. contact me via AIM. At night in the US usually I'm on or my wife is around.
sekio
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So what was the dose?
I didn't mean to cause a fuss about this, just curious. I doubt anyone would say that but well... I see your point. I will be honest and say that after seeing the couple other alcohol threads and hearing the various reviews I was interested.
I do not think that means that most people will be though. I am just curious about this because it has carried over to other forums. Restated, I am not putting it on the map anymore than it has been. That is the sad reality of just discussing anything on here.
ANYWAYS, I was pulling this out here in an attempt to get a range for a stupid but probably not fatal dose.
Don't worry about mine being from the RC market, shouldn't even be on it but I haven't looked. Mine is reagent grade and I only have around 200 ml of it. So far it is untested and I will probably just dump it because of the this. First I will have dumped anything, making me sad here, I want to try a novel alcohol, safety fuckin first I guess. Gotta go back to drinking the tried and true yeast piss.
I do not think that means that most people will be though. I am just curious about this because it has carried over to other forums. Restated, I am not putting it on the map anymore than it has been. That is the sad reality of just discussing anything on here.
ANYWAYS, I was pulling this out here in an attempt to get a range for a stupid but probably not fatal dose.
Don't worry about mine being from the RC market, shouldn't even be on it but I haven't looked. Mine is reagent grade and I only have around 200 ml of it. So far it is untested and I will probably just dump it because of the this. First I will have dumped anything, making me sad here, I want to try a novel alcohol, safety fuckin first I guess. Gotta go back to drinking the tried and true yeast piss.
sekio
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I did some math and based on the log Pow vs potency for ethanol, 2-methyl-2-butanol, and chloral hydrate, an active dose would be something around 150mg (!). Not very much at all.
sekio
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Linear extrapolation based on the octanol/water partition content (for the equivalent of 1 standard drink of alcohol). It very likely isn't that low for actual intoxication; but it's a good place to start titrating.
polymath
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If the active dose is really that small then the most accurate way to titrate the dose would be to inhale pentanol vapors until drunk enough. Also if it's metabolized anywhere near as fast as ethanol (i.e. 6 grams/hour) then it's not gonna be a very long-lived high.
I'm not sure if it's that easy to calculate the active dose from the partition coefficient... I think diethyl ether has an even larger octanol/water coefficient, and ether has been sometimes abused by drinking it in about 15ml doses.
Chloroform has a high partition coefficient too, and I once huffed it to get high, inhaling something like 10 grams of chloroform from a plastic bag in one sitting, without getting an OD...
I'm not sure if it's that easy to calculate the active dose from the partition coefficient... I think diethyl ether has an even larger octanol/water coefficient, and ether has been sometimes abused by drinking it in about 15ml doses.
Chloroform has a high partition coefficient too, and I once huffed it to get high, inhaling something like 10 grams of chloroform from a plastic bag in one sitting, without getting an OD...
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