N. Korea Launches Missile Into Sea of Japan, long range Taepodong fails in flight

[Infernal]

^^^Wow. Blow your little horn mate. Try rereading my initial post regarding an air defense intercept system that actively includes four different elements not just the touted PATRIOT system. Yeah, I was begging for it. I admit it. Why? Because when you pop off with something you know very little about some of us like to correct the little common misperceptions. Sorry, I'm proud of my job.

And yes, there is a defense available. Reread the initial post. Is there a single system that protects us? No there isn't. However, there are layered systems because no system is foolproof.

 

[Zero the hero]

"Wow"! What "horn" is it that you might be referring to "mate"? I think if anyone’s tootin’ their own horn here it's you not me…

Anyway, perhaps you should reread my post "mate" as I never referred to the "Patriot" system other than in the context of it's "touted" amazing performance during GWI as being a sham, so where are you going with this exactly? What I still don't understand though is what "little common misconceptions" you-in all your wisdom-have cleared up for me?

The fact remains that, as far as I can see, this intricate "web" of missile defense you describe has not been proven to be either particularly efficient and/or effective in the event of a real missile attack, period, end of story. But hey, if you can provide me with some solid evidence to the contrary, I'd be more than willing to look at it (preferably not just evidence provided through/by the US military) but I'm hardly about to just take your word for it. Further, I asked you to correct me if I was wrong about there being NO defense in the case of long-range ICBM's and/or missiles armed with MIRV's?

 

[pIeCE]

Bush was interviewed again 'just' recently (sorry no link) and he seemed to have changed his tune from his initial statements. He was asked again, if we could have intercepted any missiles. He now says, "we would have had a 'reasonable' chance at taking them out." WTF? He must have actually consulted with those that knew what they were talking about for once?

The best analogy I could think of when it comes to our defense system would bee the erroneous belief that a bullet proof vest would somehow protect me from a 50 caliber weapon. lol

North Korea sure is making us look bad. Iran is taking notice. Is the US starting to lose its hammer as cop/enforcer of the world? If they don't have oil we just let them slide with anything and everything? Who will bee next to step up to the plate? Pretty soon they'll bee forming cliques.

 

[Tha Mortician]

Well......when you all die, if I'm still around, at least I can take care of the arrangements....

 

[JerryBlunted]

proven[/B] to be either particularly efficient and/or effective in the event of a real missile attack, period, end of story. But hey, if you can provide me with some solid evidence to the contrary, I'd be more than willing to look at it (preferably not just evidence provided through/by the US military) but I'm hardly about to just take your word for it. Further, I asked you to correct me if I was wrong about there being NO defense in the case of long-range ICBM's and/or missiles armed with MIRV's?

how would such a thing be proven short of a "real missile attack" which, hopefully, will not happen in the forseeable future?

my (limited) understanding of the issue is that the missile defense technology is more or less in its formative stages, but has progresed far beyond reagan's "star wars" pipe dreams.

 

[Infernal]

Zero, unfortunately my search of articles I could quote are from government and military sources so I imagine those just aren't good enough. They are also either not for general release or speculation based on known defense. So I'll bow out due to lack of quotable sources. However, I will make this perfectly clear. One of the primary missions of the new upcoming JSF and the old F18E/F is missle interception. Now, as I said before, the problem with ICBMs is that you only get a short time to react. Those aircraft alone could not do the job. Then again, any single system would fail in an ICBM-MIRV environment. Those systems working together have been in place for years on Navy Aircraft Carriers and have worked pretty damn well. Take that how you will.