My Long Terms Negative Effects of MDMA

[timerunning]

Hey everyone,

So basically, I took MDMA for the first time ever back in September. I took two pills, one at 6pm, another at 830pm (because I still wasn't feeling the effects of the first one.) At 9:30pm, I started feeling the effects and started freaking out, I hated the feeling of it and got very panicky. A whole group of others took the same pills and were fine so it was basically just my reaction. We went home and I went to bed.

The next day, I was definitely feeling off and not that well, very space and out of it. I went to bed at 6pm and slept until the next day.

The day after, I was feeling pretty ok, back to normal for the most part. I decided to smoke marijuana, cause I am used to that and used to all the time. However, after I took like, 3 hits of the joint, it basically felt like my brain reset to two days ago when I took the E. I was freaking out and forced myself to bed.

For that first week, I had ZERO appetite. Everything made me want to throw up. I had to force myself to eat. I had crazy depression, like I have never had before.

The second week, my appetite returned thank goodness. But my stomach was hurting like crazy and had crazy knots all in it of anxiety and was just very much hurting.

The third week, my stomach felt better but that's when I pretty much had constant anxiety. My brain would be foggy, I would be out of it all the time. I felt like I was walking in a daze for the most part and wasn't looking forward to anything.

The fourth week, I started to feel a little bit better but the anxiety was still there. I went to a counseling session, but they basically just listened and didn't really give me much advice.

So where I am at now, I still feel depressed every day. I'm not going out (when I used to a lot). I'll feel scared and panicky, like something is "wrong" or "off." I'm so scared I will feel the same as I did the first week. I feel like I messed something up in my brain. And the fact that I haven't been drinking or looking forward to hanging out with people is definitely not how I usually am. I don't know if I am in a funk cause I had such a bad reaction and now I can't get myself out of it or if it is chemically induced. I'm not really having any trouble sleeping either.

Before I took the MDMA, I NEVER had feelings of anxiety or panicky-ness. (Well, past the normal extent that everyone does.) I feel like my life is altered and it's scaring the hell out of me. I never used to be like this and I don't feel like me.

I also haven't been doing anything substance wise. I have not smoked marijuana since the two days after the E and in the span of two & and half months, I've had one beer, which made me feel all depressed and crazy afterwards. I'm scared to drink cause I feel like it's going to put me back in that "place" of fear.

I went to a psychiatrist and they suggested anti-depressants, which I really don't want to go on. The only thing I've taken is the 5-HTP (I took it twice a day for a week after I took the E pills and then again for a week the 3rd week) and I took B12 for a week as well. The psychiatrist prescribed me these anti-anxiety drugs, an antihistamine, which I'm supposed to take 4 times a day, but I have only been able to do up to 2 a day, cause I'm scared of how the pills are going to make me feel. And the 2 a day have done NOTHING to help.

Any advice would really be appreciated. I feel like no one I've talked to has had this happen from their first time ever taking E. Also, some background, no one in my family has mental health issues, I NEVER have had them before the E, I don't usually have any sort of uppers (The only drugs I have done are marijuana and like, prescription pills, like Vicodin). I don't even have caffeine usually (Hate coffee.) I've never had any adverse affect to alcohol, I definitely am a drinker (except for since I took the E) and that's always been fine. And I've never been clinically depressed. I've been sad depressed of course, like after a break up or something, but it's NEVER been like how I've been feeling lately.

Thanks for listening everyone. Again, any incite would help.

 

[Darksidesam]

Hey,

Perhaps the pills you took were fairly strong ones, you took 2?

I reccomend a first timer on mdma 100mg dose, No redoses

http://thebrain.mcgill.ca/flash/i/i_03/i_03_m/i_03_m_par/i_03_m_par_ecstasy.html
^ Thats how MDMA works on our brains
Dont take 5-HTP, you dont need to take any meds. i am glad you have stopped smoking weed anymore,
When you smoked the Joint it re-triggered your Anxiety off.

How was your poo? was it normal or was it really dark and runny?

Get as much sunlight as you can,
Eat these foods:
Dark Chocolate (60% cocoa minimum)
Turkey
Chicken
Tuna
High omega 3 foods that increase serotonin like wild salmon, sardines or Mackerel
High Quality Eggs
Cheese
Bananas
Whey protein (Like that in protein shakes)
Sour Cherries - Raises Serotonin levels + Melotonin , Helps you sleep. Reccomend taking after a Roll.
Free Range Beef
Asparagus
Avocado
Pecans
Pineapple
Eggplant
Spinach
Walnuts
Oats - Could even be a nice bowl of porridge .. yumm


Get them foods in you! Stop taking supplements, most of this is in your head/ mind.
Sometimes i get twitchy on weed, but its all in my head,
You may have a neurological imbalance from too much MDMA consumed first time, (Lack of Serotonin)
But you can replace it! not to worry, but you need to stay away with drugs atm.
Then its a case of Mind over Matter,
Exercise helps too, i find walking for miles can.

Serotonin is an important neurochemical that:
affects appetite, mood, sleep patterns, quality of sleep, energy levels.
Id also say and imbalance can bring on anxiety/ panic

Anti depressants wont help you,
They will just cause more Neurological upset.

Just do what i said and you will perk up

 

[Tyd]

It sounds like you are quite sensitive to drugs and substances in general. I'm no expert, but this is just my opinion and gut feeling. I don't think this is a chemical imbalance issue and will be 100% mental. However the brain is very powerful and a mental anxiety can easily manifest chemically. But my point is that I feel the root cause of the issue is within yourself.

Just for clarification though, do you have more details of the experience you had? Did you test the pills, what experiences did your friends have, what specifically gave you the anxiety etc.

Unfortunately I don't have any real advice except one. Try piracetam, if your head is feeling foggy still and memory is affected this will help. However! there are dangers with it, people will say its amazing, it is, but there are some downsides. At first it may make you feel anxious because you have to take large doses for it to work. In my experience however I had none and was using it for study, once I started to notice my vision becoming clearer, smells becoming richer, earing better, memory way better, this all brought a lot of confidence in everyday life. It was fantastic for studying and clearing your head if you smoke a lot but eventually you don't realise but you've been taking it for awhile. There aren't any real side effects however there is a minor withdrawal, do not attempt to stop it abruptly, if gradual it's fine. My anxiety when withdrawing after taking it for a month was slight really, its mostly the mental aspect as you feel these amazing attributes become greyer, you feel you're losing confidence. In the end though I realised that was in my head and I'm back to my normal confident self within a week of tapering down.

Apart from this, you seem to be healthy and conscious of this, maybe too much so? If your worried about some permanent brain damage and things such as that, I'm no doctor but its statistically very very unlikely thats the case. I don't think taking anti-depressants is a good idea at all, they mess with your serotonin. You don't sound like you really are, just anxious and worried about this event which is affecting other things. Start doing a bunch of exercise, this makes you feel good about yourself, encourages the brain to produce serotonin, dopamine, good things on a more regular basis. Eventually you'll go back to normal I'm sure, good luck mate.