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My Boyfriend is addticted to WoW

threelibras99 said:
Beatlebot: It's true that you can get a lot of money from this game by tournaments, etc., but he wasn't doing anything like that. He hasn't gotten a penny from playing.
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You don't get it. People don't sit at home and watch movies or football games or surf bluelight to "get something out of it" its a past time - a hobby. Its great that you have a job, a car, and are going to college but that's your priority in life not his. I'm not saying its the best thing for him but quantitizing life in dollars/cents isn't the right way to look at anything.

Also, he can probably sell his account for a decent amount of money. I sold mine for 800$ and have sold other video game acounts for about 600$ total so its not a complete waste at the end of it all.
 
aanallein said:
You don't get it. People don't sit at home and watch movies or football games or surf bluelight to "get something out of it" its a past time - a hobby. Its great that you have a job, a car, and are going to college but that's your priority in life not his. I'm not saying its the best thing for him but quantitizing life in dollars/cents isn't the right way to look at anything.

Also, he can probably sell his account for a decent amount of money. I sold mine for 800$ and have sold other video game acounts for about 600$ total so its not a complete waste at the end of it all.
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Right, well his "hobby" is preventing him from leading a normal, healthy life. I understand these are my priorities and not his, but lets be real here: That game is totally consuming his life, and he's loosing touch with the real world, and real life. It's one thing if he were able to control his hours while playing, but he simply can't. If he continues on the path he's walking, he's going to be 40 years old, living with his mom, and working at Burger King...all because of his addiction to that game.

I think it's great that you've sold your character. I think it's a great way to make some extra bucks, but when you start neglecting your actual life and responsibilities, I just don't think it's worth it. In my ex's case, I don't think the amount of hours he spends playing is worth the $800 he could be making in the end. He needs to get a fucking job, not depending on selling his character(which he has no intention of doing anytime soon)
 
Because you can make Gold in WoW at a steady rate and you can sell the gold for real life money. You can also sell accounts for boatloads of cash. Virtual currency and virtual property is a billion dollar a year industry, that is why the gov wants to start taxing it.
 
I was completely addicted to Everquest for like, 5 years. Really some of the best times of my life. I realize how sad it sounds, but in my case I generally didn't neglect my relationships for the game and played only in my spare time(which in many cases was a LOT of time).

WoW was alright, I was definately into that game for awhile as well.

If you don't understand how people can become addicted to these 'virtual worlds' then I'd reccomend giving WoW or EQ a spin. If you still don't know, I can't explain it to you. It is what it is :) .
 
Here is a wiki link about a woman who has made over 1 million dollars through selling virtual real estate in a game called Second Life, she was even on the cover of business week magazine. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anshe_Chung

You can google her name and a bunch of resources will come up.
 
LuGoJ said:
Here is a wiki link about a woman who has made over 1 million dollars through selling virtual real estate in a game called Second Life, she was even on the cover of business week magazine. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anshe_Chung

You can google her name and a bunch of resources will come up.
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making money isn't the point of the thread - the thread was started because a woman was feeling neglected because her boyfriend was spending all his time playing WoW. It had nothing to do with money or a job.
 
threelibras99 said:
Right, well his "hobby" is preventing him from leading a normal, healthy life. I understand these are my priorities and not his, but lets be real here: That game is totally consuming his life, and he's loosing touch with the real world, and real life. It's one thing if he were able to control his hours while playing, but he simply can't. If he continues on the path he's walking, he's going to be 40 years old, living with his mom, and working at Burger King...all because of his addiction to that game.

I think it's great that you've sold your character. I think it's a great way to make some extra bucks, but when you start neglecting your actual life and responsibilities, I just don't think it's worth it. In my ex's case, I don't think the amount of hours he spends playing is worth the $800 he could be making in the end. He needs to get a fucking job, not depending on selling his character(which he has no intention of doing anytime soon)
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This phase of his life won't last indefinately. Eventually he'll lose the enjoyment he gets from it for one reason or another and he'll move on to do other things. You have to understand that not everybody walks the same path in life and relationships aren't about making the other person do what you want to do but enjoying your time together while walking your seperate paths.

I'm not trying to say that what he's doing is ok. I spent about 18 months of my life on WoW. During that time I stagnated. I really didn't do jack shit. But after I got out of that period I went on to pursue a great career and am doing really well for myself at the moment. I think of my time playing WoW as a vacation and a rightfully deserved one. In the USA we don't get any kind of rest right out of High School or even right out of college. I was 22 when I graduated college and hadn't had a vacation where I didn't have to stress over the next deadline my entire life. Those 18 months were exactly what I needed before starting a career. I didn't worry about when I would have to start my job all I did was relax and enjoy each day. Finally after 18 months I put the games away because it was what I wanted to do and it made starting a career something exciting rather than another grind to get through like college was.

Anyway I understand how frustrated you probably are. My family was getting pretty tired of me after awhile and I was getting a lot of flack over my behaivor. But it was exactly what I needed ultimately and I'm glad I had that time to myself to get rid of a lot of the stress that 18 years of schooling had put on me.
 
stereobot said:
making money isn't the point of the thread - the thread was started because a woman was feeling neglected because her boyfriend was spending all his time playing WoW. It had nothing to do with money or a job.
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yeah i know, someone was asking how playing mmorpg's can be a job. Sorry for derailing ;)
 
Ha, i knew this stupid fucking game could be a relationship wrecker!

My close friend, 2 or so years ago, was in the exact same position as you. He was UTTERLY addicted to stupid wow. It was fucking lame. We would go over there and see him and his housemates, (our friends also) and they would all just play wow. Im like are you cunts fucked picking this stupid game over YOUR <FRIENDS>!?!?!

some are over it, i think he still plays it. they broke up a few months later needless to say. i dont directly feel your pain, but i do somewhat. Hope your doin ok
 
aanallein said:
You don't get it. People don't sit at home and watch movies or football games or surf bluelight to "get something out of it" its a past time - a hobby.
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How many people do you know who will sit and watch 10 movies back to back for 15 hours straight. I'm sure it's been done but how about doing that EVERY FUCKING DAY OF THEIR LIFE. Zero, nil, no one. Nobody on this planet does that. Professional film scholars don't do that. Roger fucking Ebert does not do that. No one.

If you honestly can not see the difference between watching movies and playing WOW, you are delusional. Or an idiot.

This is like the arguement that meth and crack are just recreational intoxicants no different than weed and alcohol. "You just have to be responsible about it..." and "I know lots of people who only and blah blah blah...."
Yeah, maybe in abstract theory but all real empirical evidence suggest otherwise.

aanallein said:
Also, he can probably sell his account for a decent amount of money. I sold mine for 800$ and have sold other video game acounts for about 600$ total so its not a complete waste at the end of it all.
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We have different definitions of "decent". Sure, if you could crank out an $800 character, say, every two weeks, cool. That could settle the world's unemployment problems.
But I'd be willing to bet that if you took that $800 and divided it by the number of hours it took you to build that character up, the end result would be waaaaaaaaaaaay less than what you would be making at a minimum wage job.
I would need a lot more than $800 to give up that much of my life.

Face facts, man. WOW is for losers.
 
aanallein said:
You have to understand that not everybody walks the same path in life and relationships aren't about making the other person do what you want to do but enjoying your time together while walking your seperate paths.
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I agree. However, the problem was that I couldn't enjoy my time with him at all, because he'd cut our hours spent together just to play more of that game. Not only that, but just his general attitude whenever he would be with me was horrible. It just wasn't fair. :\
 
zephyr said:
^ would you like to explain how WoW is no different to having a job that pays a regular wage?
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This guy stole the words straight out of my mouth:


supertrav77 said:
We have different definitions of "decent". Sure, if you could crank out an $800 character, say, every two weeks, cool. That could settle the world's unemployment problems.
But I'd be willing to bet that if you took that $800 and divided it by the number of hours it took you to build that character up, the end result would be waaaaaaaaaaaay less than what you would be making at a minimum wage job.
I would need a lot more than $800 to give up that much of my life.

Face facts, man. WOW is for losers.
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Considering that they're doing this in China where the average wage for blue-collar types is about 1800-2200 dollars a year 800 dollars for two weeks work is highly lucrative. I say if they enjoy it why the fuck not? I can't imagine spending that amount of time. It is an obsession and unhealthy, but the guys who do it for a living are actually enterprising. Living the American dream :\.

Peace,
PL
 
Pimp Lazy said:
Considering that they're doing this in China where the average wage for blue-collar types is about 1800-2200 dollars a year 800 dollars for two weeks work is highly lucrative.
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Perhaps I didn't make myself clear. I said that I'd be cool with WOW if you COULD build an $800 character in 2 weeks. But you can't. It takes months and months and months of 10 hours days to get a character that high.
 
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Ahhh... I understand the types that play and their obsessive, anti-social behavior, but in contrast to most business I'd think they're at least having fun. In light that it takes months and months it just kinda seems like low level drug dealing. Selling off your character so that you can keep playing. But it's just never enough… is it?

PAX,
PL
 
supertrav77 said:
How many people do you know who will sit and watch 10 movies back to back for 15 hours straight. I'm sure it's been done but how about doing that EVERY FUCKING DAY OF THEIR LIFE. Zero, nil, no one. Nobody on this planet does that. Professional film scholars don't do that. Roger fucking Ebert does not do that. No one.

If you honestly can not see the difference between watching movies and playing WOW, you are delusional. Or an idiot.

This is like the arguement that meth and crack are just recreational intoxicants no different than weed and alcohol. "You just have to be responsible about it..." and "I know lots of people who only and blah blah blah...."
Yeah, maybe in abstract theory but all real empirical evidence suggest otherwise.



We have different definitions of "decent". Sure, if you could crank out an $800 character, say, every two weeks, cool. That could settle the world's unemployment problems.
But I'd be willing to bet that if you took that $800 and divided it by the number of hours it took you to build that character up, the end result would be waaaaaaaaaaaay less than what you would be making at a minimum wage job.
I would need a lot more than $800 to give up that much of my life.

Face facts, man. WOW is for losers.
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LOL wow you are both opinionated and wrong.

Plenty of people let their hobbies or past times get the best of them. Wow is no different. Plenty of people spend so much time in front of the television or computer doing whatever, whether its bluelight or video games or watching ESPN (my roomate was addicted to ESPN don't tell me it cant happen). Plenty of other people waste their lives away drinking or doing drugs or what have you. Its NO different than wow in any way.

And YES 800 dollars for a character isn't much compared to a legit job. BUT YOU ARENT FUCKING WORKING WHILE PLAYING A GAME. So ultimately getting a few grand out of it (my friend got 2500 for his character) and you were just having fun the entire time is a sweet deal.

Wow isn't for everybody but to say its for losers is inaccurate. Something like 10 mil people play wow. Plenty of people play other games - hows it any different? I don't even play anymore but I don't look down upon anybody that does. Its simply a hobby. And if she doesn't like the fact that he's spending "too much time" playing (probably true but its HIS life not hers) she can leave him. Relationships are about respect and if you can't respect the other person's choices, walk away and find something else.
 
supertrav77 said:
Perhaps I didn't make myself clear. I said that I'd be cool with WOW if you COULD build an $800 character in 2 weeks. But you can't. It takes months and months and months of 10 hours days to get a character that high.
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Maybe if you suck at it.

The industry makes billions/year selling gold, items, and characters. There's an enormous potential for profit if you know what you are doing. Getting a few grand out of a casual hobby isn't something people get very often in life so don't compare it to a career. That's just stupid.

Atleast pre-expansion you could power a character to 60 in 2 days (did it for a friend) and gear them out with epics if you had the connections and sell it at a huge profit especially after server transfers came into effect. The guild I was in had a Paladin with 5 days played with the best items on the server so it really doesn't take very much time at all once you have everything setup. I know several guilds that made tons of money doing this.
 
^ but the only way not to suck at it is to play a LOT. Like any drug - WoW makes most of its money from dependent users. Some of those dependent users deal as well....

Back in my day, we played role playing games with lots of dice and pieces of paper - now that's what I call a hobby ;) Traveller, anyone?
 
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