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Mushrooms & Visuals

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Tracered

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Even after getting very, very high on a nice mix of caps and stems, I never seem to have more than the slightest hint of visual hallucinations. The friends I trip with have no problem breaking through to moderately intense visuals from the same mix of caps and stems, and the same mushies. Do I really have to content myself with the occasional very slight tracer at best? In all other aspects of the high, I've pushed to the edges of what I can handle, but still nothing more the slightes visual. Any thoughts?
~peace~
 
After reading the rests of the posts, I want to change my idea of simply taking an extra gram. While this would almost definatley increase your visuals, as you said, you think you have pushed the boundries in other aspects of the trip. So I suggest you try some of the other species mentioned below. However, most people don't have access to different strands of mushrooms, their dealer simply has some booms. So, I still stand by my statement that I have my best visuals in nature (especially the desert). This is especially true when I sit in silence, unfocus my eyes, and try to think of nothing. Good Luck!
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yeah just up the dosage. some people are lucky to have a low tolerance while we have to live with high ones. *sigh* eh dah welp. im not sure if you kinda sit and wait for it to kick in or not, but if you are i suggest tryin to do somethin to take your mind off of it.
good luck next time.
 
weed definently helps alot with shrooms, i find it helps alot with the transition in the trip... as for not having any visuals, everyone reacts differntly, perhaps you are just not taking a large enough dose... what kind of shrooms do you generally take and at what doseage?
 
I've had similar experiences with shrooms where i know i am tripping huge, but the visuals aren't as intense as i would like. If you feel that you cant handle more than try another drug suck as acid (if you can find it), or maybe a good dose of MDA.
 
As of late, I have been noticing that marijuana actually seems to deter the visuals; my roommate has also been noticing the same thing. So, maybe take them "sober" and see if that helps. The best visuals I have ever had was when I had zero marijuana to smoke. I think marijuana makes my brain too lazy to invent things to see ;)
 
Nitrous or weed!
Also try different species of shrooms, Golden Teachers and Mexicans i found to be very visual, Copelandias visual also, but primary the horny feeling you get from them and philosepher stones i don't like them at all, just mindlooping for me
 
He says "in all other aspects of the high, I've pushed to the edges of what I can handle" and people are advising him to take more? That doesn't sound right to me.
I don't seem to get much in the way of externalized visuals from anything. I've gotten flat patterning from MDMA, mostly in black and white (or transparent, I should say), once in colour (brown and yellow fleur-de-lis - most curious).
With mushrooms I got similar transparent flat patterning (this time a kind of hexagon tiled thing), and some perspective warping, like I was looking through a telephoto lens and things that I knew were further away looked closer. But I didn't get colours or movement or things like that.
Acid, I got some of that "wall breathing" stuff and a couple flashes of colour (exhaled smoke looked green at one point), but nothing like all the cool stuff my companion was obviously seeing.
Like you I feel envious of people that get to see neat stuff. For me the experience is so much more internalized, it's strange. When I say I didn't get to see much with the mushrooms, it's true, I didn't - on the outside. But on the inside, it was like having the most intense, vivid dreams. It wasn't closed-eye visuals, it was "inside my head" if it could be said to have any location (hence the comparison to dreams). But if I opened my eyes, I didn't really see much different from usual. I actually got a similar though less intense experience from eaten marijuana - being in the grip of internal visualizations or dreams.
I guess I'm not really helping here... it might turn out that you'll have to, as you say, "content" yourself. I also wonder how much of it has to do with our overall mental processes. I say that I experience my drugs internally, and I tend to experience everything that way - I internalize things. So maybe that's why I get the effects I do, whereas "normal" people experience things externally? I don't know.
 
Try eating two grams, dried and ground, and mixed in with about one Special Dark Hershey's bar. I think you will be surprised with the results.
 
Ive noticed some mushrooms have given me harder trips than others but with less visuals...
First trip was very intense, but no visuals... second one was milder, but many visuals...
In a nut shell, I dont know why that is
 
Originally posted by synchrojet:
Try eating two grams, dried and ground, and mixed in with about one Special Dark Hershey's bar. I think you will be surprised with the results.
Something about Willy Wonka and a little bit of magic or something or other...one special dark hershey's bar? Other than taste, do you expect the Oompa Loompas to come out? ;)
Anyhow, I'm in the same boat as Stardragon. I don't know if it's because my dose is too small, because my mind is closed, or if it's just because of biochemistry, but I rarely get pronounced visuals at all. The strongest visuals I've had were actually from MDA -- even those at best seemed to be fleeting phantom images.
I don't get many visuals at all with either shrooms or LSD. The mental load becomes heavier to bear than the actual visual stimulation -- that's fine, that's why I take the drugs. :)
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Originally posted by Matt_Himself:
Ive noticed some mushrooms have given me harder trips than others but with less visuals...
Different strains of mushrooms, even sometimes of the same species, are known to have different ratios and levels of psilocin, psilocybin, baeocystin, and norbaeocystin. These differences in alkaloids are what account for the different subjective effects many people report with different mushrooms.
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Thanks for all the input so far, I'm really getting to like this board quite a bit. :)
I suspect more and more every day that different people process things either externally or internally. If this is true, then I would put myself in the 'internal' catagory as far as mental processes and personality go. Guess I'll just try playing around with a few things.
~peace~
 
something I've noticed to be true for me, is that lower doses, that leave me with little in the way of visuals, often have more "mindfuck" while higher doses, where fractals and electric matrixes fill my entire vision, often leave me more "clear" although with greatly reduced ego.
 
Originally posted by synchrojet:
Chocolate inhibiteth MAO and thusly enhanceth PS.
Hmmm, so eating chocolate should make me trip harder?
Also, is it true that drinking grapefruit juice prior to mushies will increase the efffects?
Mmmm, chocolate and grapefruit juice. If the combo doesn't make me vomit from the taste, it should enhace effects of shrooms, right?
~peace~
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Originally posted by Tracered:

Also, is it true that drinking grapefruit juice prior to mushies will increase the efffects?
Grapefruit inhibits an enzyme that breaks down opiates. I've never heard it has any effect on psychedelics though. I don't think that it does.
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Mushies and little to no visuals?

Last year i got on some magic mushrooms, they were really mind fucking like when people talked to me it sounded like super scrambled jargon that resembles the beginning of the song "Rosetta stoned" -Tool, however i didnt hallucinate properly.

It was my first time and I took 8 mushrooms and two more waiting for it to kick in. It cant have been the shrooms because. My mates took 6-ish and tripped way harder then i did.


We walked into a fast food store and the whole placed looked normal to me, for some reason it looked as though there were millions of people inside but there were only 4 or 5. but that wasnt like uber trippy. it felt frame skippy and i often found myself thinking that whatever i did a few moments ago didnt really happen.

but my friends were standing there telling me the walls were breathing and the tiles were different colours. one of my mates went out and started talking to the KFC sign outside haha.

But i didnt even come close to visually tripping like that. its was a real let down. I did end up tripping out and having to go home because i couldnt take it.

There was one point where i passed out sort of. i was watching people walking towards me on the sidewalk and they kept walking and walking then the background disappeared and they kept walking and floating. then i felt a splash of water on my face. opened my eyes and everything was outlined in this blue dotted kind of pattern and someone asked if i was alright and i replied with "im alive" and had this amazing profound feeling that life was this endless stream of energy and, it was pretty mind fucking. apparently i fell over onto my face for a second then stood up.

But thats as trippy as it got.

Factors on me: I hadnt eaten before taking the shrooms so they kicked in pretty fast. I chewed the fuck out of them before swallowing, I ate lots of shrooms, i was in a trippy shirt but it was night time and winter so i was so fucking freezing but couldnt tell because i was high.


I want to see these different coloured tiles, i wanna see some music. talk to Poseidon (my mate "did"). Im thinking this time to try chop the shrooms up and soak them in lemon juice, apparently it makes the trip a lot more visual.

Any suggestions?
 
Idk man I hear a lot of people say that mushrooms aren't that visual for them. For me however, mushrooms are quite visual. Now bear in mind that they aren't visual in the sense that LSD is where everything you see is in constant fluid movement. Mushroom visuals in my experience consist of heavy color enhancement, the fucking of the depth perception and a lot of bending/warping/breathing. I also tend to think that people really underestimate the role that individual body chemistry plays in the whole thing. Perhaps you just aren't as sensitive to tryptamines as your friends.
 
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