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ysonvs

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i have just recently aquired some mushies for free and will be eating them with two other people on saturday fo basically our first time. i've got a normal size honey jar about a third full of what looks like small mushies but they are said to of been chopped up. the reason i can't really tell is because its all black and sh#t due to them being soaked in honey(which seems pretty watery for honey).on wednesday nite i sampled one and half small mushies, taking the half first and then 45 mins later taking the 1 i waited for another 45 mins and still nothing but a little bit of a stoned feeling then i went back to my room and had a couple of gulps of the black honey then waited a while and then i started feeling more fucked up but no where near as much as what i was told to expect and i was told by people who i could say basically lived off the f*ckers.they said that they were extremely potent and that when they had some that they were fully f*cked up. now this doesn't make sense cause these guys are almost twice my age, twice my height,twice my weight and been doin them for ages so i was wondering if anyone can give me an estimate of how much we should take on saturday if it is any help they were found in the sydney region. i really need help on this one cause i can't find any useful info any where and no i have no idea what kind they are -thanx heaps
p.s is it better to chew them or do you still get the same effects if swallowed without chewing?
 
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You need to eat a lot more than one and a bit mushies, mate. If you really wanna trip nicely, I would recommend eating about 2-4grams...Yeah, you pretty much gotta eat a nice amount...small amounts only leave you feeling kinda stoned....

But don't eat it all at once...just do it over a nice period of time

But if you do feel that you can handle it...go hard!!!
 
Just remember you can always eat more later, if it's not working strong enough, but if you eat too much all you can do is wait it out. Leave at least (IMO) an hour or more to see if it's working before you decide to have more.

BigTrancer :)
 
it really depends on what sort of mushrooms they have given you, which you don't know :(

if you ate 2-4 grams like dirty_deeds told you and they were p. subearuginosa then you would hit the roof and trip way harder than you probably expect to and want to!

be careful, try taking 2.5 shrooms next time instead of 1.5 and see how you go
 
2.5 mushrooms won't do much at all, unless they are p. eucalypta/australiana or p. cyanaceans which is unlikely.
even they were p. subearuginosa 2.5 mushrooms still would not give you a decent trip generally.

i agree more with dd, do at least 1.5 grams.

the honey should be quite potent by itself though, so you may not need to have any shrooms if you just drink the honey.
 
Clearly the type of mushroom is unidentifiable from the original posters description, and the potency will be greatly affected by the storage method and/or condition the mushrooms were in prior to being immersed in honey. IMO 'use caution' is the only reliable advice we can offer - dose ranges mean nothing in this context.

If the person took approximately 1.5 mushrooms (though they say most of the mushrooms are broken into small, unquantifiable pieces) then perhaps they can use their own common sense to slowly increase the dose, rather than aiming for a particular weight or number of these mystery mushrooms.

BigTrancer :)
 
surrealthoughts said:
2.5 mushrooms won't do much at all, unless they are p. eucalypta/australiana or p. cyanaceans which is unlikely.
even they were p. subearuginosa 2.5 mushrooms still would not give you a decent trip generally.

i agree more with dd, do at least 1.5 grams.

the honey should be quite potent by itself though, so you may not need to have any shrooms if you just drink the honey.
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from all my readings, both personal accounts and actual studies been made, even most recent studies... subaeruginosa is a VERY potent mushroom. studies on eucalypta and australiana have found them to be variants of subaeruginosa, and all are equally very potent, said to be around the same potency as other woodlovers (azurescens and cyanescens) found overseas.

also of note is the potency of these woodlovers based on size and weight... small mushrooms have been found to generally have alot more psilocin/psilocybin content than large mushrooms per weight. thus one could eat 3 small mushrooms and trip much harder than eating one very large mushroom! also, the mushrooms from one patch might be much more potent than those from another, depending on growing conditions and the substrate they are feeding off.

i tripped EXTREMELY hard off a new batch of subaeruginosa earlier this week, off only 4 tiny specimens.

In the end, i'd have to agree with BigTrancer - the mushrooms in this honey could be very potent or not, but he wont know till he eats them. therefore it would be advisable to slowly increase the dose rather than X grams. 1.5grams of potent subaeruginosa could knock you into a level 4 or 5 trip, which i'd say isn't what he is after. remember, subaeruginosa and it's variants are generally 3 times as potent as dung lovers such as cubensis. im positive what i ate the other night was well under 1.5g and was a VERY strong trip.

be careful and start off small until you know how potent the mushrooms you have really are!
 
thanx for that guys. just one more day till i find out what there like and i guess i will have to do what you guys have advised, take them slowly till i feel it but won't that lessen the over all effect due to taking them over a period of time. i don't know if i can get them again so i was kinda hoping to get the best out of them but i guess it's betta to be safe than wacked up in a mental institution. ohh and one more thing me and my girlfreind have had a dolphin wit a rainbow trip before and were wondering if mushies are going to resemble the effects of this in any way or if no one here has had them before whether or not they are similiar to trips in general. i know you guys are probably thinking jesus has this guy done any research at ALL but to be honest, i have and it all just confuses me. mushies are not my criteria

thanx again for all your help you have certainly made things a hell of alot clearer
-YSONVS
 
sorry about the advice I gave. I like tripping pretty hard personally...the thing is...he already said that he ate 1 mushie, and had a few gulps of the honey...and if he didn't even remotely trip remotley, I assumed that what he had couldn't really be a HIGHLY potent mushroom. Though, yeah, be carefull...I've had mushies that have fucked me completley after two...and one would have been enough...any, stay safe, love the mushroom

Peace Out

Dirty Deed
 
if jimbu is right in saying p. subs can be equally as potent as the p. cyan family i stand corrected with respect to saying you will not trip off 2.5 shrooms if they are p. subs. my personal experience has been at least a gram of subs are needed to get tripping at a decent level, though as jimbu notes various locations will produce subs of various strengths.

i'd be interested jimbu in a link to some information on the strength of p. subs and the information you refer to in your post. i havent researched shrooms for some time now as im quite comfortable with them, and a search today failed to bring up anything, i was looking to confirm your advice p. subs and australina/eucalypta have equal potencies, which is contrary to info i have read.

if he only has a limited amount and he has tried them and they appear to be weak, and he is concerned he may not be able to try them again i still recommend he is NOT overly cautious. it is extremely unlikely to end up in a mental hospital after one trip (as long as there is no history of mental illness in your family). if the shrooms are too strong they will wear off after around 6-7 hrs, if that!

taking 2.5 shrooms then waiting an hour and taking another 2.5 shrooms as suggested above if they are too weak is likely to lead to and unfulfilling and frustrating trip.
dragging out the dosing extensively will lead to a trip that is not as enjoyable and more of a headfuck.

most times i have dragged out dosing to a couple of hours the trip hasnt been any where near as satisfying.

be cautious but not too cautious
sometimes it is better to dive in rather than wade in, but there is ALWAYS a next time

and yes the trip will be similar to the dolphins, but if you only had 1 dolphin, the shroom trip will most likely be stronger.
 
most of the information i'm saying is from lots of reading on the shroomery forums - particularly posts by bluemeanie - who is very involved with research on these species (australiana, eucalypta and subaeruginosa). alot of information is pointing towards them all being the same species. sorry i can't quote any exact links at this time!

i've also read that recent research has also linked subaeruginosa to possibly being a direct relation to cyanescens which has adapted to the australian environment (which would make some sense, it being very similar in potency AND macroscopically).

although i have read in the past of user accounts saying australiana being unusually EXTREMELY potent.

finally - on a personal account. i ate 4 p. sub's on monday night which i had recently picked. they were all small to medium specimens. 1cm to 3cm in diameter... and i tripped very strongly... almost too strongly.

although i would agree with you that he not be overly cautious and frustrate/waste his shrooms, remember a strong and uncomfortable trip can feel like it is lasting ALOT longer than 6 hours :p
 
sorry for this last question but no one seemed to emphasise the fact of which way is better to consume the mushies.

should i make myself chew them as if they were normal mushies or should i swallow them like a pill with water.
in other words which way is going to f*ck me up more or are they the same???

once again thanx heaps and hopefully i get fucked up tonight and if they are betta than 1 dolphin trip, then i guess i'm in luck

-YSONVS
p.s i'm a bit skeptical about giving my gf some mushies, purely cause i love her so much and i can't say no cause her freind is the one whom gave it to me. So should i give her the rest of the honey(2 teaspoons at least) and 1 shroom or can girls get in to it as hard as guys??

sorry if any female was offended by the fact that i don't think girls can handle it aswell as boys but i don't know what i'd do if she got too fucked up.
 
ysonvs: Girls certainly can handle large doses of things just as well as guys can.


As far as actual eating is consumed, I would say that the more surface area of mushroom you are making available to your stomach the faster it will be digested. The best way to make more surface area is to chew it into tiny bits. You can also chop it up and infuse it with some tea or in a soup (put it in after the water is no longer boiling). Drink the tea/soup and eat the leftover mushie scraps at the bottom of your bowl/cup.

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God, some ppl make it seem like there's an art to tripping. Just have fun with them, don't worry about all this shit. Just eat them, yo. They are gonna break down in your guts one way or another....and personally, I like it when mushies creep up on ya, and then explode in your guts for that instant zonk out.....And don't worry about mental health or overdoing it. It's one big fucking rollercoaster ride, and the harder the better. I remember the first time I had mushies, these older guys gave me too much...I tripped soo fucking hard..but I never thought about if I could handle it or not..it was just a ride to be endured, and if you can do this, then you will have the most fun. If you on the other hand worry about how much you have ingested and keep thinking "can I handle this, can I handle this" then you're gonna have a bad trip....so just have FUN!!!

That's what it's all about.......

Peace Out

Dirty Deed
 
And Harm Reduction is what bluelight is all about. If everyone on bluelight had your attitude towards drugs, we'd have a lot more dead bluelighters (hmmmm maybe you're onto something ;) )

I'm not havin a stab, but I just think that if someone comes on asking for advice about tripping, it's the point of bluelight to give them safe advice. If you think it's impossible for somebody to have a bad trip and do their brain/body/mental health a lot of damage...then you are sorely mistaken.
 
Dirty_Deed: Would you fucking STOP giving out such bullshit 'advice'. Christ, I've seen loudmouth greenlighters come and go, and most of them get sick of the sound of their own voice pretty quickly, but you just keep going and going. Don't you get tired of it? I sure as hell do.

If someone's concerned for their wellbeing and wants to check the facts on Bluelight, who the FUCK are you to tell them to just 'Just eat them, yo', while furthermore belittling the efforts of others to help the interested person actually LEARN a bit more about the stuff they're putting into their body? Not everyone wants 'a ride to be endured', some people prefer to test the waters cautiously, and so doing avoid putting themselves in uncomfortable mental states and taking overt risks. I seriously question the wisdom in telling someone to 'don't worry about mental health or overdoing it'.

Bluelight exists so that people can make informed choices, and learn about drugs in their OWN way. Bluelight does NOT exist so that you can finally be one of the big boys and metaphorically shove drugs down impressionable people's necks. If you get in the way of the flow of information at Bluelight, your time will be extremely limited here.

BigTrancer.
 
Listen, if the mushies aren't poisonous, if the individual is of a good state of mind...there is very little risk of going nuts on mushies.....I've seen bad trips happen not because of the amount taken, but because the that certain individual was just worrying too much about what the drug was doing......surrealthoughts post is the best post on this topic so far....I'm not saying to eat fucking huge amounts, just to take them and not worry about how it digests, what's gonna happen...HAVE FUN!!!!
 
Another note....some of the cautious advice given by some posters would make most newbies to tripping very paranoid...that's just wrong.
 
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