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Mum tells how clubber ’high on cannibal’ tried to bite her finger off

Now, now. Let's get back to reigniting the 'derailing threads at 4am, because it's weekend and I'm high' plan. They were happy days, when you could come into EADD at most times of most nights, and find someone posting. Weekends used to be chaos on this forum. I'd love to read back some of the conversations that used to take place, when everyone awake was on pills, etc. Ah, nostalgia...
 
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er, no. when a person reads a work of non-fiction they are usually quite aware that what they are reading is not made up i.e. factual.

alasdair

Yea you've both a point here. Forgive me. It was after a nulti-day, night-deprived 3-FPM session. It's wasn't a good comparison. I was meaning in terms of people not believing the stories within the newspapers were dalse n knowing that novels are imagination. But it's nit a good comparison.

Comparing the likes of The Sun and the Daily Mail to novels is pretty ridiculous, isn't it? People don't buy newspapers because they fancy reading an entertaining story, which they know is FICTIONAL (which means made up). Perhaps you know people who do this, but I find that pretty bizarre. You don't find newspapers in libraries, next to the Harry Potter books. Newspapers are supposed to contain factual articles, about events from around the globe, which people read to gain knowledge. The Sun is not a book, nor do all its readers know that the articles are full of inaccuracies. Some people will read the article in question, and believe/spread what they've read, won't they? It's articles like this that give drug users a bad name, because a lot of uneducated people will take it as gospel. If you found what I said judgemental and unfair, that's entirely your issue. Judgemental; perhaps, unfair; no.

Hiya - I though I had asked a friend to send my apologies n ask you to please ignore this. I thought it was a construxtive post, it wasn't meant as a rant n I'm sorry if I caused you offece. I just clicked on "last post" n read them back. Had I realised it was banter I'd have never reacted that way.

My brother is a welder n he occasionally reads the sun but knows it's mostly rubbish. I refuse to read that newspaper - or any newspaper after the way Princess Diana was treated n hounded. I met her once n had a lot of admiration n respect for her The Sun has caused a lot of problems like calling Liverpool, murderers in the Hillsborough disaster. Lots of people refuse to buy that paper after that. I hate the newspapers with a passion because they ruin lives.

Anyway I hope you can accept my apologies n we can move on from this. I should have looked through the thread.

Evey
 
The Independent is about as independent as the russian oligarch who independently owns it (like when it independently supported the tories in the election, or any of its anti-putin coverage).

The Guardian is about as independent as the Scott Trust which runs it to ensure it's always about news and not short term profit...er, until they changed it to Scott Trust Ltd a few years ago, and now there's loads of dodgy corporates running it (read about it here). Current project seems to be to make the paper even more war-supporting, israel-friendly and anti-socialist to try and 'break america' with the website.

The BBC's about as independent as all the tories that have been shoved into its higher levels (like Tony Hall head of news - old school mate of cameron; Laura Kuenssberg political editor - married to an old school friend of cameron; Rick Nobinson, the last political editor - head of young conservatives in uni; Editor of daily politics - former chair of young conservatives; Rona Fairhead, ex-HSBC etc). The almost imperceptible BBC coverage of the ongoing privatisation of the NHS is understandable when you find out how many of members of the BBC trust have got direct links to private healthcare. Even without extra tories, the bbc has always been there to protect the establishment - one of its first acts when it started was to fully support the government in the general strike in the twenties, not allowing anyone from the left to speak on the radio (there's a famous quote from Reith something like 'the government knows they can rely on us not to be truly impartial'). Read here about the BBC's impartiality in setting up on air resignation on daily politics to discredit corbyn and then bragging about it.

The telegraph independence is illustrated by them sacking Peter Obourne because he did journalism (by looking into HSBC corruption when they had big ad contracts with the paper).

The Mail is a slightly nuanced version of the same paper that gleefully supported the Nazis ('hurrah for the blackshirts!') - across all the media it's increasingly easy to do the thought experiment of switching out mentions of Muslim or immigrant with Jew and the result isn't pretty.

As a bus user the Metro (owned by the Mail) is good for lighting the fire.

Aaah, our glorious free press: you're free to own a newspaper and fill it with your own opinions (which, as a newspaper owner, will probably be right wing). If you know their biases you can still get good info from all of them - though it's often a case of dogs not barking. (cwor, i sound arrogant don't i?)
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This is quite a good doc about british journalism http://www.filmsforaction.org/watch/the-fourth-estate/
Starsuckers is a good doc too which has a good bit on 'infotainment' (making the news shit) http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/starsuckers/
 
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