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MS Contin headaches

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DeMaria

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Hello. I've been on prescription painkillers for a long time. Too long. I currently take MS Contin (since 2016, after as many years taking OxyContin) and I find that I'm prone to severe headaches sometimes. They are debilitating, unbearable headaches that strike maybe once a month, and leave me bedridden for a day. They tend to be concentrated around my occipital nerve area in the back of my head, but the pain takes root in the neck, the face, behind the eye, and it's not like a normal headache. There is no drug, not even morphine, that can reverse it; sleep is the only thing that works.

I've been to the neurologist and ENT, discussed it with them, and they are stumped. I've had MRIs. Nothing. (Thank God.) I can say for sure that it FEELS very opioid related. It isn't always accompanied by other symptoms, but there's something very withdrawal-y if that makes sense. Other times, I'm convinced it's not that at all, and I'm feeling neck and occipital pain that exists anyway, but magnified for whatever reason. My ears often ring at the same time. (Blood pressure is normal.)

Has anyone else experienced this? I'm stumped, and these headaches have become such a way of life, I plan for them now even though I never know when they're coming. People who know me well, know that I might have to cancel something if it falls during my occipital migraine period.

In my heart of hearts, I have a feeling that if I was off MS Contin altogether, it would not happen. But I don't know.

For the record, I never abuse my medication. I take it exactly as prescribed, but sometimes it's like I'm building a tolerance without changing anything -- not just sometimes, but ALL THE TIME... and once or twice a month it results in a legit migraine headache.
 
opioids should relax and never cause headaches, quite the contrary they could alleviate headaches which can have dozens of causes, diet i.e. what you eat and drink, rest i.e. too little or too much or at bad times of the day, positions in which you sleep, activities and positions you keep while doing them, absence of body training, stress and many more.
As you see causes aren't so easy to identify, then it could also be the mscontin, try to switch back to oxy. Opioids and opiates never ever gave me the slightest headache even on high doses. Start little by little and try to identify the cause among those I listed by changing habits on step at a time.
 
Opioids can definitely cause headaches due to histamine release-induced vasodilation which can produce a distinct kind of pressure/throbbing type headache. Certain opioids are worse offenders, and it likely proportional to the histamine releasing properties of said opioid. Morphine is one of the worst offenders as far as histamine release is concerned, so headaches, especially when its wearing off can definitely happen. Ive never found them particularly debilitating but it can definitely be unpleasant. Ive experienced them many times, from a wide variety of opioids.
 
^ opioids can indeed cause headache. Many geadaches are cervical and muscle related, and oposed to what we use to think, opis don't relax but tense them muscles, they just stiffen then. This isn't a well known thing among users but it's a fact. In Asian opium dens was normal to see some person, often ladies, that used to massage the opium smokers' back and shoulders.
There is a columbian documentary from the 80's, following Nancy Reagan's "Just Say No" trend, where you can see those dens and that massaging performance.
 
Señor Moreno said:
^ opioids can indeed cause headache. Many geadaches are cervical and muscle related, and oposed to what we use to think, opis don't relax but tense them muscles, they just stiffen then. This isn't a well known thing among users but it's a fact. In Asian opium dens was normal to see some person, often ladies, that used to massage the opium smokers' back and shoulders.
There is a columbian documentary from the 80's, following Nancy Reagan's "Just Say No" trend, where you can see those dens and that massaging performance.
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Wtf you mean 'cervical'
 
Señor Moreno said:
^ opioids can indeed cause headache. Many geadaches are cervical and muscle related, and oposed to what we use to think, opis don't relax but tense them muscles, they just stiffen then. This isn't a well known thing among users but it's a fact. In Asian opium dens was normal to see some person, often ladies, that used to massage the opium smokers' back and shoulders.
There is a columbian documentary from the 80's, following Nancy Reagan's "Just Say No" trend, where you can see those dens and that massaging performance.
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I have experienced some opioids, particularly bupre, causing jaw tension, I investigated it once and it might be for effects in acetylcholine, I have also had tension headaches as of lately after getting on minor dose of bupre again for some stupid bullshit reason (I am running out soon and I have been using very low dose, I will be fine)
 
I take morphine and hydromorph daily and get headaches sometimes. It happens
Make sure you're drinking lots of water. When I get a headache I'll take a Tylenol and big glass of water and the headache usually clears up before the Tylenol has a chance to work.
Sometimes a coffee helps as well
 
wirkdy said:
it actually got 2 meanings:
cer·vi·cal /ˈsərvikəl/
adjective
1. relating to the cervix. "cervical cancer"
2. relating to the neck. "the fifth cervical vertebra"
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Yeeep. I get this. What I'm saying is that when you use the adjective 'cervical' with no qualifiers you generally refer to .... never mind.

I'm only pointing this out because our friend is Spanish in the first place.
 
wirkdy said:
it actually got 2 meanings:
cer·vi·cal /ˈsərvikəl/
adjective
1. relating to the cervix. "cervical cancer"
2. relating to the neck. "the fifth cervical vertebra"
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TheUltimateFixx said:
Yeeep. I get this. What I'm saying is that when you use the adjective 'cervical' with no qualifiers you generally refer to .... never mind.

I'm only pointing this out because our friend is Spanish in the first place.
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Thanks guys. I only was aware of the second meaning, as in cervical vertebra. I didn't knew that it also could be cervix related, as in cervical cancer.
And yes, Ultimatefixxx uses to help me with English a fair bit. Ty mate👍
 
spine vs vagina dispute notwithstanding, everyone's responses were pretty helpful, if only to see that there are stones I haven't yet overturned. I wonder if taking an antihistamine would help, given the histamine theory above.
 
wirkdy said:
opioids should relax and never cause headaches, quite the contrary they could alleviate headaches which can have dozens of causes, diet i.e. what you eat and drink, rest i.e. too little or too much or at bad times of the day, positions in which you sleep, activities and positions you keep while doing them, absence of body training, stress and many more.
As you see causes aren't so easy to identify, then it could also be the mscontin, try to switch back to oxy. Opioids and opiates never ever gave me the slightest headache even on high doses. Start little by little and try to identify the cause among those I listed by changing habits on step at a time.
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Opioids always gave me headaches, migraines even. Especially the next morning when I’d wake up. Almost felt like a hang over.
 
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