moving down from uncontrolled dependant use to non dependant controlled use of opiate

[Password:]

Hi,

Ive recently just kicked a phsyicalopite habit, been through the phsyical withdrawals as well as beaten the mental cravings for some time. I am now looking to have controlled use over my heroin, with some subutex to help starve off the withdrawals after taking some H. I plan to take 0.5 over friday/saturday and sunday daytime and have a limited supply of subutex on the monday/tuesday as ive found since coming off completely, even a small amount of heroin will make me feel withdrawal effects increased after 1 day so to combat this im planning on do the sub on the mondaya small amount such as 1-2mg and then riding it out for the rest of the week. Whilst not full functional and clean can anyone see this working?

PW

 

[Xorkoth]

Your chances of this working without getting out of control again are very, very slim. I could absolutely never do it and I only know one person who has ever done it, and he did it for a few years, got scared because he found himself slipping, and then his wife ODd and died after not doing opiates for months and he vowed to never touch opiates again. Personally, after 10 years of being addicted, quitting and getting through withdrawals many times... I always went back to exactly where I was before I got off them every time I let myself do any. You're playing with fire and statistically speaking you have very little chance of controlling your use. The only solution for me was to choose to leave opiates behind. It's been 4 years and I don't have any desire to use them anymore which is great.

I once quit for 8 months, it was my longest besides the final time. I did opiates again as a birthday "present" and within a couple of weeks I was doing them multiple times a day again and had worse withdrawals than I had ever had before.

Have you quit another time(s) before this? Or is this your first time? I did it at least 10 times, and it got worse every time.

 

[ObieWan]

I myself had a bad opiate habit 10 years ago. I've since been hooked on nicotine, benzos, Bupe- yes I know I stopped this maybe 18 months ago, and alcohol. I'm dry now. I've recently been dabbling in H, banging about 40-50mg every other night, and I've been thinking of going to every third night or taking a break. This is not a lot but just enough to give me a nod. I have no desire to redose. Yes I realize I too am playing with fire, but I cannot have this habit at this poinit in my life so if I feel myself slipping I will kick it altogether.

PW- what if you instead dose yourself so you do not become dependent? I don't know if most people would become addicted after taking a half gram over a weekend, but people like you and me our receptors are already primed and that cycle is more easily activated. Take 100mg, then don't take any til the following friday, or whatever works for you. If you know you'll need the subs to come off youo may be over doing it.

 

[Xorkoth]

I always got re-addicted physically quicker and quicker each time I came off opiates and then used them again. The last time I tried to quit, I got past withdrawals and then I got light withdrawals after the first time taking them again.

Good luck guys. I strongly do not recommend trying to dabble again, it rarely goes well in my experience. It's the same thought process that led you into a problem in the first place... self-rationalization, and a slippery slope.

 

[tjmothy]

I was able to use oxy strictly on the weekends for about a year. But it slowly bled out into the week and eventually transitioned into a full blown addiction.

In theory, yes of course it's possible. I'm sure there are people that are currently doing something very similar to what you are describing. But in practice it's a very slippery slope with presumably a very low success rate. Also, it's not very healthy to be alternating the use of bupe/H so frequently. Anyway good luck and stay safe.

 

[herbavore]

People convince themselves that it is possible the longer the time spans they are able to stay in control--these can be pretty convincing. 6 years on Bluelight has taught me that it eventually becomes a problem. The meaning of 'eventual' is inevitable in time.