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Most Complicated Team Sport?

nfl football can seem confusing at first but the basic idea can be understood in 30 seconds. then you have a lifetime to learn and enjoy the details.

i also love baseball and it's kind of similar - you don't need to learn much to get a basic grasp of the game but if you watch it for a while, you'll learn all kinds of interesting details.

alasdair
 
Complicated to understand everything as opposed to the basic concept... yeah US football...

Complicated to do... maybe synchronised swimming... if we want to call it a sport ;)
 
i agree with alasdair, but i think most every team sport is probably about the same as far as complications to learn. to me... cricket seems difficult to understand, but then again, it's more because i've never really been exposed to it, but that and baseball share a lot of similarities (or so it seems to me) so i'm sure if i sat down and immersed myself in cricket for a short bit, i'd be able to pick up on it fairly quickly.

the thing is with ANY sport, you're always gonna see something new and learn new things. nobody is a 100% expert on their own, IMO. i think hockey is one of the simpler games to understand, but i know lots of people who say "i don't like it because i have no idea what's going on." i suppose complication is directly relative to the level of interest.
 
I can not understand cricket for the life of me.

Not a team sport, but snooker has some pretty strange rules. Especially if you're used to billiard. But it's a fascinating game to watch once you get the hang of the rules.
 
^ when you say billiards do you mean billiards - the game played on a snooker table with two white balls and a red ball - or pool?

the game of snooker is really very straightforward - what is it specifically that you find strange? i grew up playing snooker and when i moved to the states, i guess i found some of the rules of pool a bit strange at first.

alasdair
 
football is like 1,000,000 times more complicated than cricket. you can learn all the rules of cricket by watching a single match. I learn a new rule in football practically every sunday.
 
EA-1475 said:
I can not understand cricket for the life of me.
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that was my original thought, but when you think about it, football is like 1,000,000 times more complicated than cricket. you can learn all the rules of cricket by watching a single match with someone explaining them to you. I learn a new rule in football practically every sunday.
 
I doubt anyone will agree with me, but I would have to say Cheerleading, when done at the most elite level.

The routines combine some incredibly intricate dance, gymnastics and sports acrobatic stunts choreographed to music. Some of the stunts require the entire team to be synchronized to the split second to build layered pyramids 3-4 people high. If one person is off, by just a bit, the whole thing collapses and people can be seriously injured.

I'm talking the really good college teams that compete and such, not the rah rah teams for profesional sports.
 
wonderflosity said:
Some of the stunts require the entire team to be synchronized to the split second [...]. If one person is off, by just a bit, the whole thing collapses and people can be seriously injured.
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watch football. every play is like that.
 
alasdairm said:
^ when you say billiards do you mean billiards - the game played on a snooker table with two white balls and a red ball - or pool?

the game of snooker is really very straightforward - what is it specifically that you find strange? i grew up playing snooker and when i moved to the states, i guess i found some of the rules of pool a bit strange at first.
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I meant pool.
With snooker, the score-keeping part was what threw me. With pool, there are conditions for winning and losing. No score-keeping per se. In 9 ball, you can knock 8 balls in and lose to an opponent that only hits in one. In 8 ball, you can win without ever making a play.
I've forgotten most of the rules as it's been ten years. I sucked at playing it but enjoyed watching good players play. There's a lot deeper strategy. You have to think offensively and defensively, often at the same time.
 
+1 for cricket here. but mostly because it doesn't get a lot of airtime in the states. my cousins spent a lot of their childhood in south africa and became excellent rugby and cricket players...i was always fascinated by that.

it doesn't look like baseball to me at all, but again i've not seen very much of a match. and i heard that matches can go on for days? is that true...what's that about??
 
id have to say curling.
homeboy has to throw the stone just right and then his teammates have to sweep furiosly until the thrower tells them to stop. the other team can just knock your shit into a lower scoring circle. theres so many variables.
i fucking looooove curling.
 
EA-1475 said:
I meant pool.
With snooker, the score-keeping part was what threw me. With pool, there are conditions for winning and losing. No score-keeping per se. In 9 ball, you can knock 8 balls in and lose to an opponent that only hits in one. In 8 ball, you can win without ever making a play.
I've forgotten most of the rules as it's been ten years. I sucked at playing it but enjoyed watching good players play. There's a lot deeper strategy. You have to think offensively and defensively, often at the same time.
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i understand and tend to agree. the mechanics are obviously very similar.

that said, a snooker table is 3 times the size of a typical pool table so, while you occasionally have to use a rest in pool, you'll never have to mess with the 9' long butt.

defence is a large part of snooker. in fact the signature defensive shot - the snooker - gives the game its name.

snooker can be deliciously evil - if an opponent is 'snookered' and misses the object ball with the cue ball, a player can elect to have the cue ball placed back where it was and force the opponent to try again. if it's a particularly nasty snooker, this can go on for some time and many foul points can be won.

the diagonal of a snooker table is about 13 and a half feet. the diagonal of a pool table is just under 8 feet. in terms of long shots, that's a huge difference. learning on a 12ft snooker table, i generally find shots on a 7ft pool table to be so much easier.

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alasdair
 
wonderflosity said:
I doubt anyone will agree with me, but I would have to say Cheerleading, when done at the most elite level.

The routines combine some incredibly intricate dance, gymnastics and sports acrobatic stunts choreographed to music. Some of the stunts require the entire team to be synchronized to the split second to build layered pyramids 3-4 people high. If one person is off, by just a bit, the whole thing collapses and people can be seriously injured.

I'm talking the really good college teams that compete and such, not the rah rah teams for profesional sports.
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I can agree with that...Competitive Cheerleading is pretty hardcore.....I dated a girl in HS that was competing nationally in that....They spent countless hours rehersing one routine

I'd have to go with American Football....The game is continuously evolving...At the coaching level it's as complex as a game of chess...Except you have even more variables to take in to thought, actual human beings....Injuries drasticallaly affect your game plan and stratedgy....Thats why bringing in a new player rarely seen can often be an advantage
 
faris said:
...... and i heard that matches can go on for days? is that true...what's that about??
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Psycologically grinding down your opponent for 5 (!) days..... only for it to end in a draw. And some series will go for 5 Test matches. I <3 it

I guess the statistics collected and compared over a lifetime is very much as intense as baseball.
 
i actually have a match on my hard drive, but i've never watched it yet. i guess i figured i should know something about cricket before i try to watch it played out on a field, but i could watch it and pick things up as i go also. which would be better? to learn more about the game then watch it? or to watch it and learn the rules as it goes?
 
watch it with someone to explain it to you. you'll pick it up in no time. it's really no more complicated than baseball.
 
Nah, fuck that. Just throw some pads and a box on and have a hit it the batting nets.....

You'll get the jist of it it pretty quick ;)
 
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