Morphine from poppy seeds? Possible?

[tommy34]

I found a good source of poppy seeds for tea. I used 500g the other night with multiple extraction and with no Opiet tollerence I was nodding just perfectly. So could Simone please satisfy my curiosity here? What if you were to get say 5kg for these seeds, do multiple extractions with water, put all the water in a big pot. To this mixture one may add calcium hydroxide, as the mixture cooler the morphine is scooped from the top and the rest thrown away. Then add ammonium chloride. Is this tottally stupid or fezable? I do not have access to these chemicals nor do I want to start a project that may never end. Sorry if somthing doesn't make sence, my fingers are too fat for this phone.

 

[amapola]

You won't be getting just morphine after you basify but all the present alkaloids including the unwanted ones. Similarly when you re-acidify you'll just be putting them all back into salts.

If you are looking for pure morphine salt this won't work and you need to do more purification steps along the lines of heroin manufacturing. If you just want to get rid of some of the poppy oils then this might help though I would properly acidify and filter before basifying to remove particulate matter and then filter after basifying to collect the alkaloid free base as opposed to just skimming it off the top.

 

[Mr Blonde]

^ What he said.

Chloroform is a decent solvent for use with opiates, morphine and codeine freebase are highly soluble in it.

Then again, poppy seeds are usually shit.

 

[titstypedthis]

i don't think you'll ever get powder morphine from seeds.
but it is most definitely possible to get 80%+ morphine if you do as amapola said and follow the purification steps used to make heroin.

 

[TheLostBoys]

Good luck with your endeavour, I wanna know how everything turns out.

 

[tommy34]

What if I make heaps of tea up with multiple extractions, put the tea in a pot or even a slow cooker an boiled it down to a paste. What temperature would kill the morphine? Would the paste be pluggable or smokable?

 

[amapola]

Reducing the tea down to a paste has been done before. I'm not sure if the resulting substance can be successfully smoked but check out the Poppy Pod/Seed Tea mega thread in the OD Directory as found in my signature. Plugging it would be a waste as morphine has the same B.A. oral as rectal.

 

[psychomimetic]

^I found plugged poppy pod tea to be a bit more effective then oral. Probably because pod tea contains a lot of active alkaloids other then morphine with varying BAs.

 

[amapola]

^Yes but the active alkaloids beside morphine aren't very euphoric inducing are they? I would assume the reason you felt plugging more is a quicker come up. Maybe a greater peak high as well but almost assuredly less AUC (area under the curve) or B.A. overall.

 

[psychomimetic]

^I think they're pretty good. I find poppies to be far, far more euphoric then pure morphine and more euphoric then heroin for that matter. Opium and poppy pod tea are my favorite opiate drugs, I find that they provide the most well rounded, full, euphoric and often psychedelic (in a sense) high.

Codeine is present in opium poppies, which is definitely euphoric, I'm not sure about the other alkaloids. I'm sure the thebaine contributes something, although I'm not sure if it's euphoria.

The come up is faster with plugging, but it also seemed to be a bit more effective then oral, but that might have been an unusually strong batch or just placebo. The BA probably is about the same.

 

[cyrax99]

^I think they're pretty good. I find poppies to be far, far more euphoric then pure morphine

Placebo. They contain Morphine, and Codeine is metabolized into Morphine as well. Pure Morphine would be far more euphoric due to purity and concentration.

 

[cyrax99]

^I think they're pretty good. I find poppies to be far, far more euphoric then pure morphine and more euphoric then heroin for that matter. Opium and poppy pod tea are my favorite opiate drugs, I find that they provide the most well rounded, full, euphoric and often psychedelic (in a sense) high.

Codeine is present in opium poppies, which is definitely euphoric, I'm not sure about the other alkaloids. I'm sure the thebaine contributes something, although I'm not sure if it's euphoria.

The come up is faster with plugging, but it also seemed to be a bit more effective then oral, but that might have been an unusually strong batch or just placebo. The BA probably is about the same.

Placebo. They contain Morphine, and Codeine is metabolized into Morphine as well. Pure Morphine would be far more euphoric due to purity and concentration.

 

[amapola]

^I think they're pretty good. I find poppies to be far, far more euphoric then pure morphine and more euphoric then heroin for that matter. Opium and poppy pod tea are my favorite opiate drugs, I find that they provide the most well rounded, full, euphoric and often psychedelic (in a sense) high.

Codeine is present in opium poppies, which is definitely euphoric, I'm not sure about the other alkaloids. I'm sure the thebaine contributes something, although I'm not sure if it's euphoria.

Yeah the thebaine is probably what gives it more warmth and a body load. Almost like you're poisoned haha but possible to be found more enjoyable as well. There is also papaverine which is a vasodialator and really helps you relax. This could probably mess with blood flow to your brain as well which could give you the intense euphoria. Almost a little light headed etc.

 

[psychomimetic]

^Yeah I love the deep warm body load of opium and poppy tea. I find it to have a really heavy, warm feeling that I find very pleasant, and poppies strike me as being more psychedelic then most other opiates, for some reason.

Placebo. They contain Morphine, and Codeine is metabolized into Morphine as well. Pure Morphine would be far more euphoric due to purity and concentration.

Codeine and morphine are not the only two active alkaloids in the poppy.

Also, regarding codeine being metabolized into morphine, from wiki- "roughly 5-10% of codeine will be converted to morphine, with the remainder either free, conjugated to form codeine-6-glucuronide (~70% ), or converted to norcodeine (~10% ) and hydromorphone (~1% )."

Morphine clearly has a different high then poppy pods.

 

[titstypedthis]

Placebo. They contain Morphine, and Codeine is metabolized into Morphine as well. Pure Morphine would be far more euphoric due to purity and concentration.

thats an opinion rather than a fact there mate
poppy tea's unique composition may prime the system for more euphoria if you've got the right body chemistry

 

[sekio]

Poppy pods, like opium, have a whole mess of alkaloids in them, far more than just morphine/codeine/thebaine. Also of note are papaverine, noscapine, and oripavine. I am almost positive the sigma agonist qualities of noscapine is responsible for the differences between straight morphine and opium/poppy tea.