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Morning Glory Seeds -- Experienced -- Two consecutive trips

bluedolphin

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Two consecutive Morning Glory trips... (report)

After taking a one year break from LSA in the form of HBWR and MG
seeds, a routine shopping trip to Wal-Mart led me to revisit the
experience. Previously I had tried MG seeds maybe 3 or 4 times and
HBWR seeds twice, with interesting, but relatively mild results.

This report will hopefully answer any questions about the effects of
eating MG seeds on consecutive days, and reveal the potential magic of
LSA to those who are skeptical.

------------ THURSDAY NIGHT -------------

Preparation: 260 Heavenly Blue seeds were thoroughly soaked whole and
rinsed.

Dose: I ate approx 150 seeds (which I thought was a "light" dose), "D"
ate approx 50 seeds (which he thought would be threshold).

Setting: Begins in my dorm room, on an empty campus (we've returned
early from spring break).

T-1:00 : We pass a joint around. Myself and "D" plan to eat seeds.
"S", "JW", and "J" are only smoking tonight.

T+0:00 : They don't taste as bad as I remember... chewed into a planty
pulp and swallowed down with water.

T+0:30 : I'm feeling more stoned, and that funny familiar feeling in
the frontal lobe.

T+0:45 : By now everything is starting to become really funny, like
I'm laughing at random things. I keep seeing a palm tree in one of my
tapestries in the corner of my eye. There is a very slight pain in my
stomach but not like the bad nausea I expected.

T+1:30 : D decides to eat about 50 seeds after seeing that I have no
nausea. We decide to go for a walk up to J's room. As soon as I start
walking I realize it will be a difficult journey across campus. My
legs feel stiff and occasionally I feel a minor shooting pain in them.
On the way over I worry that if walking becomes any more difficult I
may literally collapse because of the stiffness and pain in my legs.
However, I am soon distracted by the shimmering snow on the ground and
the old architecture of the buildings on campus. "S" asks me how I am
doing and I reply "I'm just checking out that castle"... this was a
real laugh because the "castle" I was looking at was a regular
classroom building. I realized that reality was becoming increasingly
distant.

T+1:45 : D is already feeling the effects of the seeds, and living up
to his reputation of being sensitive to substances. We're talking
about random stuff and having a real laugh. At this point my legs are
still stiff, but the shooting pains are gone, which is a real relief,
because as it turns out we had more walking to do. J's dorm was locked
up for spring break and her key didn't work so we decided to go over
to JW's house. On the way there the path we were walking on bent back
and forth a bit.

T+2:00 : We got to JW's room and chilled out with some candles while
myself and D watched the moving patterns in the tapestries. There was
a cactus on the table that I felt drawn to, and I spined myself a
couple of times touching it (but not badly). D was still laughing at
everything and I was in a really good mood myself. J and JW left to
get some ice cream.

T+2:30 : Ice cream has never tasted so good. We head down to my room
to have another smoke. As I walk down the hill to my dorm, the snow is
very glittery and a small stretch of snowy ground in front of me
appeared to be a grand expanse of rolling snow covered hills. This, of
course, I pointed out to everyone else so that they could see. And of
course nobody saw it. My legs were feeling much better by this point,
and only a bit stiff. I passed by a light post and the light turned on
right as I passed by. I instantly turned around and ran back to the
light (making everyone stop while I checked it out). The light post
was bending around a bit and then the light itself (including all the
light it cast on the snow and sidewalk) changed through a full
spectrum of colors. This was unbelievable and I asked everyone if they
saw that too, because it looked completely real.

T+3:00 : Right now I should note one thing about communication with
other people. It's hard. I kept coming up with all these crazy jokes
in my head and even though they were halarious to me, they didn't
really make sense to anyone else. A few times I thought I had offended
people accidentally because I realized they had no idea what I was
talking about and I thought they might have interpreted it as an
insult. This led me to sometimes give people long and confusing
explanations for things I would blurt out, and I think this only
confused people more.

T+3:10 : Time to smoke a bowl. Puff.... oh yes, now the entire room is
changing shape and moving about. The rope light on my wall is making
some cool fractal patterns on the wall behind it. The wall itself
seems to be made of some kind of digital-looking texture. I sit down
and look at the floor, and everyone else is sitting in a circle with
me. A pie-slice of my field of vision then stood out and repeated
itself over the rest of my vision until I was looking through a
kaleidescope with my eyes open.

T+3:30 : JW is messing with my head right now. She is doing
"impressions" of me, but I don't really get it. I keep looking at her
wondering why she is acting so strange and spacey, and it takes me
like 5 minutes to realize she is mimicking my every move. Its cool
because we always poke fun at each other but I was amazed at how she
kept doing this over and over and I STILL wasn't catching on. At this
point I was more interested in watching the cartoon people in my
tapestry. A comment of tapestries: They come alive! Constantly
changing and patterns moving around.

T+4:00 : JW and D peace out. J and S go for a walk and I decide to
stay in the room for a while, because I'm feeling kind of sedated at
this point and I'm having fun watching things dance around the room.

T+4:20 : J and S come back. I thought they had been gone for at least
an hour even though it felt like more. During that time the entire
room was changing form and it was entertaining but not really anything
new. Then I saw a new color in one of my tapestries. I have never seen
this color before but its like a green-blue but, well, I can't really
explain it.

T+5:00 : Time to go to bed I guess. I spent the next 2 or 3 hours
twiching in bed constantly, I couldn't keep still. Eventually I fell
asleep and felt rested in the morning with a nice afterglow.

------------ FRIDAY NIGHT -------------

D was really excited about his trip, because he experienced quite a
bit on only 50 seeds and he was anxious to try a bigger dose. S was
also interested in revisiting LSA after she saw that we had no and
both had a good time.

So, even though I thought it would probably be a bad idea, I did it
again the next night.

Setting and Preparation were the same. This time it was just me, S and
D hanging out. Dose was about 100 seeds each.

T+0:00 : Yum yum!

T+0:30 : D is cracking up at random things already. S complains that
she feels a bit of nausea, but that it is tolerable.

T+1:00 : I feel a bit of pain in my stomach. I expected worse
side-effects on this second night, which is why I only ate 100 seeds.
I'm glad I didn't take more.

T+2:00 : Everyone is tripping, checking out the tapestries and such.
We go to smoke a bowl and of course we're tripping even more after
that. However for the next hour my legs are in pain when I try to
stand up and all my muscles feel stiff, even those in my chest, which
scared me a little bit. I am tripping the entire time, looking at
things and talking to S and D. I am surprised that LSA worked as
effectively on the second night, I thought there would be more of a
tolerance issue. However, even though I was tripping again, it wasn't
as strong and it wasn't as "new and cool". Because of the slight pains
throughout my body I kind of willed myself to trip a bit less at this
point. Things were still patterning but I had my sanity.

T+3:15 : My legs feel a bit better (ie: I can actually stand up and
walk around for short distances). We go to have a smoke and chill in
the back room.

T+3:45 : We're all checking out the close-eye visuals. I am shown an
ancient temple, and I fly inside and see some really cool mosaics. D
also talked about how cool the mosaics he saw were. At this point S's
personality has transformed completely. She is completely alert and
talking, but not really making much sense and she has a tripped out
expression on her face, which is probably how I looked the night
before. I am enjoying the sensation of melting into the wall.

T+4:30 : We're starting to come down, so there's not much else of
interest to comment on. S's "new" personality lasted for over an hour,
but it was entertaining and kind of cool.

T+5:30 : I fell asleep really easily with no twitching.

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Summary --- The first night it was like the visuals of 1 hit of acid
and the mindfuck of a couple hits at least. The side effects suck, and
they do get worse the second night in a row. If I had taken more seeds
the second night I would have worried for my health and surely had a
bad trip. No nausea though!

Anyway I was certainly impressed, but this is something that I don't
feel like I should (or want to) do more than a few times a year. Next
time I will try a dose in the 200 or 250 range, but it will be a while
before I do that.

Thursday night's trip was definitely one of the best I've had, and I
was surprised by the intensity of it. All of us are left with fond
memories and a nice afterglow. I hope this was helpful and
interesting!
 
very well written report it was easy and fun to read:)
if all goes according to plan i'll be consuming some MG seeds this weekend (i'll write a report too) and i was considering the Terence Mckenna recommended dosage of 225 seeds, but after reading your enjoyable experience on less, i may consider less as well. (it will be my first time on LSA)
 
I've taken more seeds in the past (200+) with less results. Go to Wal-Mart and get the seeds that come in 400mg packs for 10 cents each. Those are the ones we took and although I can't remember the brand, they seem unusually potent.
 
thanks for the tip, though i already ordered some seeds online from a small family based company, they're guaranteed to be additive, pesticide free, and hopefully fresh as well. if they don't work out as well as hoped i'll know where to go next. although it would seem possible that not all wal-marts accross the country carry the same potent seeds from the batch you came accross. peace
 
Bravo, keep up the good work!

What is your seed of choice? I make up my own MG trail mix consisting mainly of Pearly Gates and Flying Saucers, thus i find the saucers more potent, and i've always came up with a greater outcome... with only 1 out of my 3 MG trips bad.. which i think it was mainly, due to the fact that i ate way too much before i had psyched myself up for my last trip. I always think you're 3rd time around has it's good and the bads, at least i think so.

265 seeds -1st time (roughly 7.5g? calm, picturesque, spacey, "in awe of music")
500-600 seeds -2nd time (Was all out mind blowing and i latched onto an entire different entity & personality.)
 
Thank you for sharing bluedolphin. Although I'm sure it's in the archives somewhere, may I ask a quick question? How long do you soak the seeds and what do you rinse them off with? I would love to try it now after reading your trip report since my only hesistancy has been the possibility of getting really ill.

One other thing I'm interested in. Did you feel lucid and thoughtful or just fucked up?

Thanks

-Spunpixiegirl
 
SparringMinds: My seed of choice is Heavenly Blue... these last ones which seemed extra potent were called "Clark's Heavenly Blue". I've had Pearly Gates in the past, ordered from an ethnobotanical shop, but I thought they were relatively weak.
I know if you had 265 of the ones I had you would not describe it as "calm" or "spacey". You mentioned latching on to a new personality, which is interesting because the same thing happened to my friend on LSA. Although it was a much smaller dose.

spun_in_wonderland: I prefer not to do extractions like some people do. I think the side effects are a fundamental part of the trip to some extent, and supposedly you need a lot more seeds with the extraction. Anyway, I soaked them for about 3 hours, stirring them around occasionally. I didn't get nauseous, but, like I mentioned, I did have some nearly crippling muscle problems. Fortunately, nobody else had this problem, and it only lasted for the first half of the trip.

With LSA, I find that I am clearheaded to some extent, but also that it is very very hard to act clearheaded because of all the crazy thoughts going through my mind, and the fact that your surroundings will look visually different (and more active) in kind of a Dr. Seuss way that doesn't really lend to a sane thought process. Many people describe LSA as having the mindfuck of strong acid and the visuals of weak acid. I think this is generally true. Of course if you take enough you will have strong visuals as well as probably forgetting what is real and what is not.
 
I ate some (5-10 can't remember) Hawaiian Baby Woodrose seeds about 6 months ago. All that really happend to me is that I vomited and felt sick for an eternity (ok like 2-4 hours). I scraped the coating on the seeds off but that's all I did. Was I supposed to soak them in water?
 
Even though you have to eat less HBWR seeds to get the same LSA, it seems like the side effects (nausea, vascular constriction) are even greater than with MG seeds, at least in my experience.

The coating on the seeds is just plant material like anything else. Its a myth that this is the part that will make you sick. I'm pretty sure its glyocides (if I remember the word correctly), which are some kind of soapy stuff in it. Soaking them in water is only useful as an attempt to get fungicides off that might be there. But if you got HBWR seeds they probably didn't have them to begin with.
 
hahahaha, what a flash back to the past. That trip with the 225 seeds i mentioned (4-12-03) was the most mentally engaged and completely emotionally positive trip I have ever had. The other times i've tried LSA containing seeds they were mostly visual trips. Nice to read it all over again bluedolphin! you didn't sound like a noob at all, haha :)
 
Haha thanks :)

Yeah what a blast from the past... actually before this I wrote a bunch of trip reports for Erowid but those dorks never bothered to post them as far as I know.:p
 
wow blue that was a beautiful report. i am yet to try MG seeds, but it is now more than ever on my to-do list. thank you for sharing
 
Great report, another to add to my inspiration of trying these. I have, like many people, pondered this topic and finally decided to get some first hand experience.

I just found a small nursury/greenhouse that carried heavenly blues in their small selection of fresh seeds. I found packs of 400 natural, non-treated seeds for $2.25. I thought it was a decent bargain so I picked up 2 packs, I am still waiting for the right time. :)
 
bluedolphin: Do you know approximately how many grams those 150 seeds you took were? I'm thinking of buying some online and they are only sold by weight...
 
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