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More Creative on Heroin?

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BuckieGoldstein

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I've noticed that since I've been on opioids the last year or so, I've been much more creative than I ever have before. I've written songs including original music, written some decent poetry ... I even enjoy sitting and talking with my wife for long periods of time. Before I used these drugs, I couldn't think of an original melody to save my life, now I can't stop them from going into my head ... its really odd (and very cool).

Anyone else notice this?

Buck
 
I'm smiling as I type this, because to answer your question: Of course. It's no coincidence that so much of the best music ever written was written by folks under the influence of Heroin/Opioids. I wrote more music in the couple of years I was using heavily than I did/have in the rest of my entire life all combined. I still write and come up with tons of music, but not like I did in those days.
 
This is probably better suited for Drug Culture, but yeah I agree with your basic premise, OP. I feel like if you're not creative in a given area, heroin is not going to magically make you be able to become an accomplished concert pianist or the next Burroughs, but I do think opiates help negate some natural creative inhibitions. For example, I can write much better while high, since my capacity for unusual comparisons seems to increase, leading to more original and effective metaphors and similes. I don't really play music anymore, but I do seem to remember something similar happening when I'd take vicodin and play guitar or keyboard.
 
I can't speak for Heroin, but other opioids like Morphine and Oxycodone definitely boost my creativity. There's really nothing better than getting shredded and writing music.
 
I think that people highly attracted to opiates often have creative selves that torture them in some fashion.

I have a brilliant friend who is an incredible poet, could mos deff sell his stuff as lyrics. Also plays amazing drums with so much depth and power you think he is levitating half the time.

Mad opiate fiend. All the way to the marrow.

As morph mentioned, great fantastic deep meaningful wonderful music gets written on opiates. Not all great stuff but some of my personal favorite music was written and performed on opiates.

I believe there is some sort of connection. I don't think it's totally an accident or coincidence but I don't think it's a good reason to try opiates, to see if it helps you.

just one opinion/experience.
 
I wrote an entire book on that subject. :)

In Victorian Europe Decadents in various countries indulged in opium and laudanum. In the jazz age people used to say the best jazz band in America was usually to be found at a Kentucky narcotics rehabilitation institution. The Seattle grunge scene was fueled on junk, just like the Houston/Gulf Coast scene runs on sizzurp.

I think one part of their appeal is that opiates take away your pain and ease your worries, but they don't really interfere with your concentration the way alcohol, weed and benzos do. After you've had your medicine, you can focus on the task at hand without anything else getting in your way: the opiates took care of the problems for you. And if you've got that burning drive to get something done, it can help you do that. You run into problems is when the opiates start doing what they are designed to do - when they start shutting that burning drive down along with everything else that is bothering you.
 
This is an interesting topic and I don't want to stifle discussion but it isn't really appropriate for OD so I'll try it in DC.


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i consider myself a pretty creative individual, i live to paint, play music, write but when on dope, creativity dropped to almost zero, i would squirt some dope and blood on a painting, but not much more,

when playing with a band, we would play for like 15 minutes to a half hour and then just stop, end up doing more dope and whatever else there was around
 
Depends on the amount but yeah opiates tend to make me a much more creative writer. I enjoy writing but usually don't have the patients to spend hours doing it. Morphine though causes me to slow down, enjoy what I'm doing (whatever it is) and in some instances opens my thinking to ideas I wouldn't normally jump to. However too much and all you'll see me do is lay on a couch nodding out to old south park episodes.

It's funny, since in the last year I have become more dependent, well addicted really to opiates, morphine to be specific, and my grades have improved dramatically. From B's and C's, to A's. Not that I'm advocating drugs and addiction but it just seems like something to mention :\
 
yeah. I'm a semi-professional drummer and I like to write a lot (stories, poetry). heroin has always been a gateway into creativity
 
Heroin is a good creative link initially and then, yenno... you start using it A LOT.
 
I've written on oxycodone and vicodin before, musics easy for me but sometimes my mind gets clouded and i can't write lyrics for it haha.
 
I'm a writer and fell into opiates with the idea of becoming some kind of visionary like Coleridge or even Burroughs. I ended up with some decent output, but a lot of it was about being on opiates, and the extremes of feeling that arose from that - the numbness and misery, and the darkness. But as the addiction worsened I became terribly depressed and stopped writing altogether for almost 6 months, which was a major setback. I'm clean now, but still recovering from that; I don't think overall it helped my work.

edit: the few times I did heroin, I wrote absolutely nothing, just nodded out into poppy paradise and eventually woke up and didn't give a shit about writing or accomplishing anything...
 
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Keith Richards, Janis Joplin, Elliott Smith, David Bowie, Kurt Cobain.... and the list keeps growing.

They were all so talented but I truly believe Heroin was the catalyst that made them what they were.
 
I've played guitar and piano for about 10 years. On opiates I find myself more creative, but much less coordinated. In effect thinking up melodies and lyrics is easier, but expressing them through instruments is impossible and my lyrics won't make as much sense once I sober up.

Recently I've had better luck jamming on an old soprano uke my sister had kicking around. It's easy enough to play doped up and the best lyrics always seem to be bright simple and rhyme. Playing "Younger Generation" by John Sebastian & the Lovin' Spoonful puts me in a place.
 
I find that Heroin makes me more insightful and allows thoughts to flow alot easier. Other opiates especially oxycodone don't seem to do this. Heroin to me has a more complex high and is kind of characterized by a meloncholy beauty. I always find that if im writing poetry or a song while high on heroin I usually write in a stream of thought format. Also, I am always comparing aspects of life to the aspects of heroin.

I play guitar and if im performing on heroin, i tend to play more sparingly, with spaced out notes and less clutter. Music always takes on a dreamy quality on opiates.
 
I used to use oxycontin and heroin and the stimulating OC high would open the floodgates on guitar. Heroin just made me content to exist...feeling all unnecessary and shit.

Although, playing in a band and being stimulated by others while on smack brought out some creative juice.

Eventually it turned to a gloomy fog, so......In the end I would rather have my creativity than my junk. Some people can have their cake and eat it too, but for me it's sober (or a little booze) ftw.
 
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