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MOR Superagonists

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I have mentioned the above a few times but finally I can provide a reference.

Do bear in mind that the term 'superagonist' does not automatically make a compound highly potent. There is research suggesting that both tianeptine and tapentadol may also be superagonists. It's not a topic that has been well explored so forgive me if I can only offer tacit insights.

What I foresee as a possible issue is that traditional substitution therapy may be of less value in treating the AWS encountered when people swap from a superagonist to an agonist.

While not of statistical value, the first case of clandestine etonitazene production/consumption was in the 1980s and was a single chemist at Morton-Thiokol. I do remember it being in the news because the chemist had broken 'rule 1' and accounts by his co-workers suggested he had dissolved his product in dH2O and was self-administering it nasally. Apparently he was consuming a dose on a 20 minute schedule. He was apparently provided with large doses of methadone but for whatever reasons took his own life before the legal process could be undertaken.

I was also briefly in communication with 'Robojunkie' who, along with 'Superjunkie' (the latter being a chemistry student) were making and consuming fentanyl derivatives. They to ended up on a 20 minute dose schedule and the former remarked that in spite of being provided with copious quantities of potent agonists still suffered acute symptoms for over a year. I've also read other chemists stories concerning their consumption of fentanyl and the fact that substitution wasn't very helpful.

I will conclude by remarking that although phenapromide derivatives are nowhere nearly as explored as fentanyl derivatives, the two classes appear to be subject to a similar QSAR which in theory would provide for hundreds if not thousands of analogues. If I had to guess, I would expect this to be the next class of highly potent opioids to arrive on the black market. I'm not sure if a test for this class exists but it's entirely possible that they have already reached the market but have yet to be identified. So please be careful out there.
 
Yeah nitazenes have scared me ever since I first heard of them appearing in drug supply anywhere. Gonna be like pure fentanyls the good guy pretty soon, if it isn't already with xylazine, rc benzos cut in, benadryl for fucks sake..
 
Yeah nitazenes have scared me ever since I first heard of them appearing in drug supply anywhere. Gonna be like pure fentanyls the good guy pretty soon, if it isn't already with xylazine, rc benzos cut in, benadryl for fucks sake..

Then we also see nitazenes being sold AS benzodiazepines in fake tablets.

What that tells me is that in bulk, nitazenes must be cheap enough to tablet up into a product that sells for £1. That's not a good sign. I appreciate availability also plays a part but I doubt anyone is about to sell the stuff as a loss-leader.

There are in fact many novel scaffolds that are super-potent MOR agonists but what we are certain to see is people going from the cheapest (per dose) and right now that's nitazenes.
 
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