This experience occurred with 2 friends I will call M and N. Us 3 drink and smoke weed quite often. For N, his experiences are limited to these 2 drugs.
Me and M have had a couple mushroom experiences, both which we did not particularly enjoy. We've tried some MDMA ripoffs like piperazines, which we hated.
I, myself have had a DXM experience along with some various pharmacuticals. Nothing particularly capturing. M and I have had 2 MDMA experiences, and we can both agree that it is absolutely breathtaking and is definitely our drug of choice.
Now, the only reason we only have a couple experiences with MDMA is because it has become so difficult to find. All pills around nowadays seem to be piperazines.
On this particular weekend, I had ordered 250mg of Methylone to try out. I have heard it can actually be a close, legitimate alternative to MDMA.
I chose M to try this new drug with me as we are both quite knowledgeable of empathogens. Our friend N has been dying to try some empathogens as well. I told him we did not have enough for a third person.
He did, however, agree to try some piperazines we had sitting around as he really wanted to enter the world of stims/empaths.
We had a good night for our experience. M had the house to himself, so me and N would stay over there. I brought gum, music, cigarettes and took some magnesium as if I was getting ready for a roll.
9:30 - Me and M dose 125mg each of methylone, split into capsules. N ingests 1.5 piperazine pills, of which dosage is completely unknown.
9:50 - I can already feel a come up. Like usual, I feel it faster than anyone else. The come up is similar to that of MDMA. Subtle pleasure.
We are sitting around on comfortable furniture watching TV.
10:00 - It's coming up stronger. M still doesn't feel anything. N still doesn't feel anything. I feel the physical similarities to MDMA. I assure M that he will like this. It's not another rip off.
10:10 - I think I'm peaking. The euphoria is much more subtle than MDMA. More relaxed and mild, yet similar. If I had more I would definitely redose higher at this point, but I don't.
10:30 - By the clock I can tell I'm definitely peaking by now because the effects are not getting stronger. I do enjoy the feeling, but it's definitely not MDMA.
Like I said, the physical effects are similar, yet I would not want to dance or walk around. I just want to sit down.
Phycological effects are nearly non-existant. I do not feel empathy for the world. I cannot examine my life and figure out issues like on MDMA.
Socially I do feel like MDMA. I find it hard to shut my mouth. Yet, I seem to be talking a lot about random stuff. Nothing particularly mind capturing or emotional.
I do not feel like hugging everyone and telling them how much I love them, although this could be because I'm just with 2 guys.
M is also peaking and says he likes it. He's talking a lot, and keeps wanting to get up and move around. N still feels nothing. It's not surprising, he's a big guy and pipes can take a long time to kick in.
11:00 - I've decided I like this effect. Being completely anxiety free is absolutely amazing. Not worried about anything. Just living in the moment.
I put some music on to see if this drug will enhance it at all. I don't really get anything out of the techno. We put it on low volume in the background because we'd rather talk.
I throw a blanket around me and the warmth and softness feels amazing. Me and M are definitely feeling good, but I am not coming to any breathtaking life realizations.
11:30 - I can already tell I'm coming down. I'm quite disappointed this ended so quickly. I would definitely redose if I could.
We go outside to smoke a couple cigarettes. Smokes feel great, just like on MD's. We go for a little walk which is kind of fun. N is coming up at this point while me and M are coming down.
N wants to keep walking around, but me and M want to go back inside.
11:45 - Effects very subtle at this point. Other than going out for a smoke, all we really wanted to do was sit around and talk.
On MDMA I may do this as well, but come to amazing empathy and forgiveness for everything in my life. This did not happen on Methylone. The socialization was just there, similar to the social effects of alcohol. Nothing life-improving.
M agrees with me for the most part on the effects of the drug. He does say, however, that he really enjoyed it and wants to get more.
12:00 - Pretty much completely come down. I no longer want to talk at all. An hour ago I did not want to shut up. Now, talking seems like a chore. M stops talking as well.
N is peaking on his pipes around now, and he is the complete opposite. He cannot stop talking for his life.
12:30 - N cannot shut his mouth. Me and M try to keep up with the conversation and try to make him think we're interested, but really we'd rather just sit in silence.
N says he feels really good. He's really glad he did the pipes. His inhibitions are completely gone. He starts talking about really personal stuff. I feel quite awkward.
At this point I want to go off to bed. I'm surprised I'm so tired this early in the night. Usually MDMA or pipes would keep me up all night.
1:00 - I lay on the couch nearly falling asleep. Physically I don't think this drug had any negative effects, aside from jaw clenching even after I took magnesium.
Emotionally I feel like crap at this point. Mood swinging like crazy. I'm only staying awake because I know N wants people to talk to. I'm not really listening, but I'll stay here until he calms down a bit.
M is similar. He doesn't feel as tired as I do, but I can tell he's just not really paying attention to N.
2:00 - The past hour has been really crappy. I now have to go off to bed. M says the same. N wishes for us not to go, but I cannot stay up any longer.
Usually with these kinds of drugs I'm up for a while pissing every 5 minutes. This did not happen with Methylone which was a huge bonus.
I did not go to bed with a racing mind either. This made sleep easier, but was not particularly a good thing. When I go to sleep on MDMA my mind is racing with all the discoveries I have had that night. At this point I conclude the Methylone did not have a therapeutic value.
Going to sleep I still felt moody and depressed.
9:30 - Sleep didn't come too hard last night. I got a decent 7 hours, a long ass time for being on a stimulant. The depression has gone for the most part, but I don't feel a nice afterglow like MDMA. I have a noticeable headache, it's not too bad. My jaw hurts a bit.
It's funny. During the experience me and M said that we would definitely get more of this stuff. This morning, we're not so sure. We can't really decide if we would rather a night like last night, or a night of simply drinking/smoking.
N says he slept for maybe 15 minutes the whole night. Not surprisingly, he says he will never do piperazines again. The come down was too brutal.
I don't really know what to say about this one. On the plus side, it has virtually no negative physical effects. There is some depressing emotional effects on the comedown and day after.
It's subtle and a night like last night, just a few guys taking it easy, seemed like the right environment. Although, I would much rather a drug like MDMA which I can do at parties, dance, hug, have an amazing experience.
It's legal and easily obtainable, so I think I'm going to obtain some again.
We plan to try this in a party environment. First of all, we're going to dose higher. 125mg seemed much too subtle. We're also going to try and redose. The effects seemed too short lasting.
This is an interesting one. It needs more experimentation.
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Me and M have had a couple mushroom experiences, both which we did not particularly enjoy. We've tried some MDMA ripoffs like piperazines, which we hated.
I, myself have had a DXM experience along with some various pharmacuticals. Nothing particularly capturing. M and I have had 2 MDMA experiences, and we can both agree that it is absolutely breathtaking and is definitely our drug of choice.
Now, the only reason we only have a couple experiences with MDMA is because it has become so difficult to find. All pills around nowadays seem to be piperazines.
On this particular weekend, I had ordered 250mg of Methylone to try out. I have heard it can actually be a close, legitimate alternative to MDMA.
I chose M to try this new drug with me as we are both quite knowledgeable of empathogens. Our friend N has been dying to try some empathogens as well. I told him we did not have enough for a third person.
He did, however, agree to try some piperazines we had sitting around as he really wanted to enter the world of stims/empaths.
We had a good night for our experience. M had the house to himself, so me and N would stay over there. I brought gum, music, cigarettes and took some magnesium as if I was getting ready for a roll.
9:30 - Me and M dose 125mg each of methylone, split into capsules. N ingests 1.5 piperazine pills, of which dosage is completely unknown.
9:50 - I can already feel a come up. Like usual, I feel it faster than anyone else. The come up is similar to that of MDMA. Subtle pleasure.
We are sitting around on comfortable furniture watching TV.
10:00 - It's coming up stronger. M still doesn't feel anything. N still doesn't feel anything. I feel the physical similarities to MDMA. I assure M that he will like this. It's not another rip off.
10:10 - I think I'm peaking. The euphoria is much more subtle than MDMA. More relaxed and mild, yet similar. If I had more I would definitely redose higher at this point, but I don't.
10:30 - By the clock I can tell I'm definitely peaking by now because the effects are not getting stronger. I do enjoy the feeling, but it's definitely not MDMA.
Like I said, the physical effects are similar, yet I would not want to dance or walk around. I just want to sit down.
Phycological effects are nearly non-existant. I do not feel empathy for the world. I cannot examine my life and figure out issues like on MDMA.
Socially I do feel like MDMA. I find it hard to shut my mouth. Yet, I seem to be talking a lot about random stuff. Nothing particularly mind capturing or emotional.
I do not feel like hugging everyone and telling them how much I love them, although this could be because I'm just with 2 guys.
M is also peaking and says he likes it. He's talking a lot, and keeps wanting to get up and move around. N still feels nothing. It's not surprising, he's a big guy and pipes can take a long time to kick in.
11:00 - I've decided I like this effect. Being completely anxiety free is absolutely amazing. Not worried about anything. Just living in the moment.
I put some music on to see if this drug will enhance it at all. I don't really get anything out of the techno. We put it on low volume in the background because we'd rather talk.
I throw a blanket around me and the warmth and softness feels amazing. Me and M are definitely feeling good, but I am not coming to any breathtaking life realizations.
11:30 - I can already tell I'm coming down. I'm quite disappointed this ended so quickly. I would definitely redose if I could.
We go outside to smoke a couple cigarettes. Smokes feel great, just like on MD's. We go for a little walk which is kind of fun. N is coming up at this point while me and M are coming down.
N wants to keep walking around, but me and M want to go back inside.
11:45 - Effects very subtle at this point. Other than going out for a smoke, all we really wanted to do was sit around and talk.
On MDMA I may do this as well, but come to amazing empathy and forgiveness for everything in my life. This did not happen on Methylone. The socialization was just there, similar to the social effects of alcohol. Nothing life-improving.
M agrees with me for the most part on the effects of the drug. He does say, however, that he really enjoyed it and wants to get more.
12:00 - Pretty much completely come down. I no longer want to talk at all. An hour ago I did not want to shut up. Now, talking seems like a chore. M stops talking as well.
N is peaking on his pipes around now, and he is the complete opposite. He cannot stop talking for his life.
12:30 - N cannot shut his mouth. Me and M try to keep up with the conversation and try to make him think we're interested, but really we'd rather just sit in silence.
N says he feels really good. He's really glad he did the pipes. His inhibitions are completely gone. He starts talking about really personal stuff. I feel quite awkward.
At this point I want to go off to bed. I'm surprised I'm so tired this early in the night. Usually MDMA or pipes would keep me up all night.
1:00 - I lay on the couch nearly falling asleep. Physically I don't think this drug had any negative effects, aside from jaw clenching even after I took magnesium.
Emotionally I feel like crap at this point. Mood swinging like crazy. I'm only staying awake because I know N wants people to talk to. I'm not really listening, but I'll stay here until he calms down a bit.
M is similar. He doesn't feel as tired as I do, but I can tell he's just not really paying attention to N.
2:00 - The past hour has been really crappy. I now have to go off to bed. M says the same. N wishes for us not to go, but I cannot stay up any longer.
Usually with these kinds of drugs I'm up for a while pissing every 5 minutes. This did not happen with Methylone which was a huge bonus.
I did not go to bed with a racing mind either. This made sleep easier, but was not particularly a good thing. When I go to sleep on MDMA my mind is racing with all the discoveries I have had that night. At this point I conclude the Methylone did not have a therapeutic value.
Going to sleep I still felt moody and depressed.
9:30 - Sleep didn't come too hard last night. I got a decent 7 hours, a long ass time for being on a stimulant. The depression has gone for the most part, but I don't feel a nice afterglow like MDMA. I have a noticeable headache, it's not too bad. My jaw hurts a bit.
It's funny. During the experience me and M said that we would definitely get more of this stuff. This morning, we're not so sure. We can't really decide if we would rather a night like last night, or a night of simply drinking/smoking.
N says he slept for maybe 15 minutes the whole night. Not surprisingly, he says he will never do piperazines again. The come down was too brutal.
I don't really know what to say about this one. On the plus side, it has virtually no negative physical effects. There is some depressing emotional effects on the comedown and day after.
It's subtle and a night like last night, just a few guys taking it easy, seemed like the right environment. Although, I would much rather a drug like MDMA which I can do at parties, dance, hug, have an amazing experience.
It's legal and easily obtainable, so I think I'm going to obtain some again.
We plan to try this in a party environment. First of all, we're going to dose higher. 125mg seemed much too subtle. We're also going to try and redose. The effects seemed too short lasting.
This is an interesting one. It needs more experimentation.
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