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Smoking this stuff tastes like satan's asshole...
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(Methiopropamine) For studying.
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I've found mpa too moorish and i get irritable a couple of days after a binge. I also sweat much more the day after when doing normal exercise. I binge perhaps 4 days a month using up a gram then enforce a break to get on with real life. Sometimes need benzos to sleep after a binge (tried alcohol for that but doesn't ork and makes me piss a lot)
Taken with MDMA is very euphoric and good for sex though not good for studying. Like pv it's easy to drift into binge mode so monitor intake. At least its clean
Taken with MDMA is very euphoric and good for sex though not good for studying. Like pv it's easy to drift into binge mode so monitor intake. At least its clean
fridgebuzz
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My friend is in no way an expert on organic chem, but since he is taking upper level organic chem courses I expressed interest in knowing his view on the sulfur atom in MPA and possible toxic metabolites. He was very concerned I told him I had ordered this stuff, saying it is toxic and it will kill you.
Not sure about doing it myself. In retrospect this chem seems to be an unsafe material with stim properties made not as a viable alternative but only to circumvent drug laws.
Not sure about doing it myself. In retrospect this chem seems to be an unsafe material with stim properties made not as a viable alternative but only to circumvent drug laws.
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The fact that the sulphur atom is within an aromatic thiophene ring makes it much more stable and likely to stay as it is.
That said, if you are not comfortable taking a relatively new, untested drug for which no long term effects are known, do not. For all we know it could be toxic with no need for that sulphur to break free.
That said, if you are not comfortable taking a relatively new, untested drug for which no long term effects are known, do not. For all we know it could be toxic with no need for that sulphur to break free.
Glen Sykes
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Methiopropamine really seems like the cutting edge and has been the most fascinating substance to me as of recent. I see that other posters in this thread have compared it to PV. This is nothing like the PV i was IMing back in the day, but that's fine- as MPA was not described to be anything of the sort. I'm not going to lie: I'm currently rocking a 40 mg redose after my initial 80mg- taken about 8 hours apart from each other, and I'm on hour 10 point five. ROA was orally, and I have not tried insufflation - I am surprised to read about that and might experiment with it later after researching the bio availability.
Regarding frequent urination: HELL YEAH, BUDDIES. You are definitely not alone- almost a scheduled urination schedule happens, and it ranges (for me) from a lightly moderate to borderline 60 second pee-athon. I have not hit 5 minutes, but I can confirm: I am passing more fluid than I am taking in. I can only assume that my body is eating myself alive, and that this chem should not be considered if exercising/working out/body building. Like any good amp- I sweat a little more even though I'm just idling. The mild sweats and the most powerful urination occurs before peaking, which can vary for the user and dosages.
Compare to Adderal: I have used Adderall XR and IRs before and would fucking love to draw a comparison. (XRs was the first thing I ever put in my nose, actually.) Adderall, as you probably know, is amphetamines used to treat ADHD and narcolepsy, and I've also heard of it being used to treat depression. Adderall affects everyone differently, so this is a *totally* subjective comparison... Adderall made me awake and "geeked out" the first time, for about 20 hours AFTER being awake for 16 hours, So I was awake for a while... I slowed down after 6 hours because I failed to eat anything. Perked right up after eating lunch tho- which I kinda had to choke down. After that Adderall affected me less and less and now I'm just a little buzzed and stay awake longer. (and want to clean the world.) I can get agitated, which is something I experienced with MDPV (
MDPV) (ahem...) Methiopropamine does not agitate me like other stims. Infact my mind was blown when I realized how functional I am. There is more of a genuine boost of empathy- I find that I talk about things I normally would anyway, just more lax. Adderall would make me a little too out of touch with what I could call my normal self... when I wasn't having a false sense of empathy or exaggerated passion: I was having no emotions at all (which is fucking gay-IMHO- and not why I take drugs). Methiopropamine seriously just replaced Adderall for me, which is why my last statement was all past tense. Adderall has a serious effect on the cardiovascular system, and restricts blood flow if you do too much in one sitting. I also am not a fan of the random heart stopping-thing. I have used MPA over 5 times now and feel like it is much more "clean" as others have already phrased.
Magnesium: Guys and girls- this is a must for any good RC. Bruxism is not to be taken lightly as dental hygiene is essential to separate educated blue-lighters from street addicts. Take 250-500mg of Magnesium tablets and your body will thank you for it later. The first MPA trial run (85mg) had me moving my jaw horizontally just to keep it limber.
Repetition: What *is* the deal with all this peeing? The frequency and sense of urgency is similar to that of prescription medications such as Stavzor. which would lead me to think that Methiopropamine is taking a serious toll on the endocrine system. I'm not doctor, but doesn't that mean I should be supplementing other vitamins and calcium too?
Other physiological observation: The moment MPA stops peaking, my extremities either become cold or suddenly I realize that they are cold. This is a little spooky to me, and would like to know more about that. I mean- I still feel the effects of the drug for another several+ hours but there is such a dramatic and obvious biological shift.
HOW THE DRUG ACTUALLY MAKES ME FEEL: Pretty friken good. People don't know I'm high and I don't feel like I'm cracked out: I feel like ME in a good mood and a little more focused on whatever feels important to me (such as posting more on bluelight). ((but every time I start writing something I think wow, I have no idea what I'm talking about.)) (((to quote Charlie Sheen: Bullshit, I have an extraordinary brain.))) ((((I'm not even sped, I'm just normally this ridiculous.))))
It feels warm, and smooth. Even smoother with some MDAI. I highly recommend taking as much or even more MDAI than MPA. That is a sensation that with very little buyers remorse. like I never think Aw, why did I take that? like with some drugs. I can't really call my experiences with MPA a "high" because there isn't euphoria from the drug. I feel there is great satisfaction taken from being too cool to need sleep and for being more productive/progressive/not a negative-nancy. I like to call that sort of thing "augmenting" instead.
Methiopropamine might make me feel good but I am uneasy taking something that has some unknowns. I'm grateful that it's keeping me away from illegal street drugs, such as coke, but I could be murdering my liver right now and I wouldn't know.
If anyone has any more constructive info, or knows where to find it, we should definitely compare notes.
If you're not interested in MPA, get interested.
Regarding frequent urination: HELL YEAH, BUDDIES. You are definitely not alone- almost a scheduled urination schedule happens, and it ranges (for me) from a lightly moderate to borderline 60 second pee-athon. I have not hit 5 minutes, but I can confirm: I am passing more fluid than I am taking in. I can only assume that my body is eating myself alive, and that this chem should not be considered if exercising/working out/body building. Like any good amp- I sweat a little more even though I'm just idling. The mild sweats and the most powerful urination occurs before peaking, which can vary for the user and dosages.
Compare to Adderal: I have used Adderall XR and IRs before and would fucking love to draw a comparison. (XRs was the first thing I ever put in my nose, actually.) Adderall, as you probably know, is amphetamines used to treat ADHD and narcolepsy, and I've also heard of it being used to treat depression. Adderall affects everyone differently, so this is a *totally* subjective comparison... Adderall made me awake and "geeked out" the first time, for about 20 hours AFTER being awake for 16 hours, So I was awake for a while... I slowed down after 6 hours because I failed to eat anything. Perked right up after eating lunch tho- which I kinda had to choke down. After that Adderall affected me less and less and now I'm just a little buzzed and stay awake longer. (and want to clean the world.) I can get agitated, which is something I experienced with MDPV (
MDPV) (ahem...) Methiopropamine does not agitate me like other stims. Infact my mind was blown when I realized how functional I am. There is more of a genuine boost of empathy- I find that I talk about things I normally would anyway, just more lax. Adderall would make me a little too out of touch with what I could call my normal self... when I wasn't having a false sense of empathy or exaggerated passion: I was having no emotions at all (which is fucking gay-IMHO- and not why I take drugs). Methiopropamine seriously just replaced Adderall for me, which is why my last statement was all past tense. Adderall has a serious effect on the cardiovascular system, and restricts blood flow if you do too much in one sitting. I also am not a fan of the random heart stopping-thing. I have used MPA over 5 times now and feel like it is much more "clean" as others have already phrased.Magnesium: Guys and girls- this is a must for any good RC. Bruxism is not to be taken lightly as dental hygiene is essential to separate educated blue-lighters from street addicts. Take 250-500mg of Magnesium tablets and your body will thank you for it later. The first MPA trial run (85mg) had me moving my jaw horizontally just to keep it limber.
Repetition: What *is* the deal with all this peeing? The frequency and sense of urgency is similar to that of prescription medications such as Stavzor. which would lead me to think that Methiopropamine is taking a serious toll on the endocrine system. I'm not doctor, but doesn't that mean I should be supplementing other vitamins and calcium too?
Other physiological observation: The moment MPA stops peaking, my extremities either become cold or suddenly I realize that they are cold. This is a little spooky to me, and would like to know more about that. I mean- I still feel the effects of the drug for another several+ hours but there is such a dramatic and obvious biological shift.
HOW THE DRUG ACTUALLY MAKES ME FEEL: Pretty friken good. People don't know I'm high and I don't feel like I'm cracked out: I feel like ME in a good mood and a little more focused on whatever feels important to me (such as posting more on bluelight). ((but every time I start writing something I think wow, I have no idea what I'm talking about.)) (((to quote Charlie Sheen: Bullshit, I have an extraordinary brain.))) ((((I'm not even sped, I'm just normally this ridiculous.))))
It feels warm, and smooth. Even smoother with some MDAI. I highly recommend taking as much or even more MDAI than MPA. That is a sensation that with very little buyers remorse. like I never think Aw, why did I take that? like with some drugs. I can't really call my experiences with MPA a "high" because there isn't euphoria from the drug. I feel there is great satisfaction taken from being too cool to need sleep and for being more productive/progressive/not a negative-nancy. I like to call that sort of thing "augmenting" instead.
Methiopropamine might make me feel good but I am uneasy taking something that has some unknowns. I'm grateful that it's keeping me away from illegal street drugs, such as coke, but I could be murdering my liver right now and I wouldn't know.
If anyone has any more constructive info, or knows where to find it, we should definitely compare notes.
If you're not interested in MPA, get interested.
I think you need to lay of this mpa.
Why are you talking heroin down? Its just the name everyones scared off. Not trying to defend Heroin, i grew up with addicts but Heroin is not the problem, we are. We use it, get addicted to it, then blame Heroin. Leading to idiots like you posting bullshit. Comparing a lifelong coke addict to heroin is stupid. Theres no methadone for coke.
Why are you talking heroin down? Its just the name everyones scared off. Not trying to defend Heroin, i grew up with addicts but Heroin is not the problem, we are. We use it, get addicted to it, then blame Heroin. Leading to idiots like you posting bullshit. Comparing a lifelong coke addict to heroin is stupid. Theres no methadone for coke.
