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(methamphetamine / "a point" shared) - first time - sibling bonding time!

DJRolling

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as I write this I am at about T+8 hours (about 6:30 am) and did the evening's last bump about an hour ago.
the other people involved in this report are:

"S": my female best friend who I consider to be my little sister, and she considers me her big brother. me and her spend pretty much all free time together, and have unconditional love for each other. she is the most important person in my life.

"N": a fairly close friend that doesn't play much of a role in the story.

"A": N's roommate and the seasoned meth user in the group, known for a few years not super close.

"J" A's brother that I had met less than half a dozen times in the past.

i'd like to note that with the exception of S the other people involved are significantly older than me (10-15 years). I hope you enjoy reading my report, I enjoy writing these.

yesterday started like a fairly standard day off for me. I woke up around 3pm and didn't do much of anything. around 6 I got word of Percocet available which my sister and I had been waiting for. I drive up to see her at work to collect whatever money she had to throw in and drove 20ish minutes away to get the pills. on my way home I picked her up from work and used the pills fairly quickly around 8pm, I don't think the oxycodone impacted the meth experience in a major way but I was certainly still slightly opiated during the beginning of our tweak. we then got a call from N inviting us over just to hang out, bullshit, and watch tv. S had never met anyone else but N before we arrived, but I had told her A used meth occasionally. S was always a fan of prescription ADHD medication, Adderall in particular, and had expressed interest in trying meth before, and really drove the point home on the way to N and A's. the topic quickly came up, and around 10pm the report begins.

T+0: A, after hearing that we were interested in trying meth, invites me into his room and gives me a hit off a meth pipe. I'm instantly stimulated and feel quite good about it even though stimulants aren't something I tend to enjoy. he didn't have any left to give S a try, but quickly got ready and left to go purchase more.

T+0:30: i'm very chatty and just feeling good in general, S, although says nothing, is clearly a little upset that I got to try some already and she had to wait for A to return. we watch tv and talk for a while.

T+1:30: A returns finally with groceries for some reason. he immediately goes to his bedroom and closes the door, most likely smoking meth and separating S and i's portion from the bag. after about ten minutes he comes into the living room and calls us into the bedroom (at this point I realize that J does not like meth being used in front of him, which is why we go into the other room). he hands us our bag and suggests we each do a small bump between hits off the pipe. both S and I end up getting incredibly high at this point and start having a blast just pacing around the living room talking to each other. N goes to bed without saying a word at this point.

T+2: shortly after S and I officially use meth for the first time together A insists that he needs to hit the casino and gamble so he leaves the house. This leaves myself, S, and J left awake and kicking. J rarely does drugs of any sort but is not against their use. He has been drinking beer quite quickly the entire night and is surely pretty drunk. the three of us end up sitting at the kitchen counter chain smoking cigarettes and talking about everything from love, to sex, to religion, to war, to politics, to music. our conversations were fantastic and very rewarding in my opinion. J, who I didn't really know prior, proved to be a very down to earth person with a lot of wisdom to share with us. although he had been drinking quite a bit he easily kept up with S and i's fast moving trains of thought. it was also at this time that S and I decided to stay put for the night, and that I would take her home around 6am for a doctor's appointment.

T+2:30: the free flowing dialogues for J, S, and I continue to be fantastic, and we decide to accompany them with music instead of the sound of a TV show no one is watching. all music sounded great, music appreciation is a lovely effect to get from a psychoactive chemical. It wasn't even close to being near MDMA in such effects but was still pleasurable. with A gone and the pipe locked up S and I do bumps of meth every hour or so from here on out. the product we got must have been quite potent because amounts so small they were easy to lose were hitting very hard. S and I begin to talk about our personal relationship and attempt to explain it to J (most people we know can't wrap their heads around a boy and a girl being so close but not dating). he really seemed to get it and told us it was a great thing, although S later told me that when I was in the bathroom he would ask her why she isn't dating me. we've heard it dozens of times before, no biggie. J does however make a statement that is always in the back of my mind: "a lot of the time it's your best friend that you end up marrying". It's always seemed to me that S and I were meant to be together, and who knows, she might feel the same way. however it is beyond obvious to me that if this is the girl i'm to marry then a romantic relationship will come naturally when we are older, wiser, and ready to let love and compassion be the only two things a relationship needs. as of right now, I have no intentions of being anything but her best friend that will do anything for her.

T+4: not much different has been happening, A returns from the casino breaking even. he spends the rest of the night quietly and somewhat awkwardly doing paperwork and finances for his business in the living room. at this point we finally sit back down on the couch for the first time in hours and surf the internet while talking. although there might not seem like there's much to it S and I are really enjoying each other's company and constantly have smiles on our faces. this just general "chilling" continued for another couple hours.

T+7: S and I are getting ready to leave, we do one more bump before I take her home to keep us up through the morning. we say our goodbyes to A and J who is surprisingly still wide awake. we talk about how much fun we had and how great it was to spend such a night together on the ride home. when we arrive at her house we split the little meth we have left. after that we say our goodbyes as usual, hug, I love you, and I kiss her on the cheek.


that brings us to now, about an hour after beginning this report, at T+9:30. S and I have been texting since I dropped her off since we are both wide awake. this experience, although facilitated by a drug that gets a lot of hate, was simply beautiful. I felt closer to S than I ever have and I was already significantly closer to her than anyone else. we truly bonded over methamphetamine, our relationship is strong because of it. we both know that this isn't something to do often, and that after we've come down and slept we could more accurately decide if and when we would like to do it again. all in all at this point I feel like we made a good decision. I know that meth isn't something I'm going to want to do more than possibly a couple times a month. S, as I said however, had quite the thing for stimulants and at one point was quite careless with them a few years ago. she understand that she is weak to stimulants and agrees that she shouldn't do meth without me, and that I hold the bag when we have it.

my final thoughts: I don't think I ever want to suggest to anyone that they should try methamphetamine, but when used sparingly and responsibly it clearly is not the horrible drug many people make it out to be.
i'd like to thank you all for taking the time to read this report, feel free to leave any comments or questions below. I will answer anything you might want to know to the best of my ability.


peace&love,
DJ
 
I had a very similar positive introduction with mephedrone two years ago. I had the same sentiments socially, physically and spiritually. Once I started to repeat the experience multiple times, the whole thing went downhill so fast I could not even see what was going on. A few times in a summer, a few times a month, more and more each time etc....In short, I got fucked. hard. trying to be "Above the influence" of a drug can be so hard particularly stimulants especially if "S" has had a history with them. Your trip report is filled with happiness and it was a great read.
 
Nice read. Does come off as a little idyllic. But don't mind me i'm just jaded.
 
Nice read. Does come off as a little idyllic. But don't mind me i'm just jaded.

it's all good man, but isn't your first meth experience supposed to be idyllic? ;)

and dimensiontripping, my sister's love stimulants was talked about and understood before the experience. she's agreed that it's up to me if and when we do it again. i'm glad we got it from a friend of mine that she doesn't know very well (as in does not have his number) though haha.

thanks for the replies guys.
 
good report, although a couple of times every month is way way too much. i think once every 6 months is way too much.
 
^ umm not really, maybe for MDMA as that shit really off sets your mind for a long time.

But with meth i notice recovery extremely fast, if you are talking from an addiction stand point i can see that. Meth is extremely addictive and habit forming, me a person who usually hates stimulants quickly started doing it daily. Meth was the only stimulant i had ever used on a daily basis.... it's just that good. The good news is i caught my self in addiction and i threw away the last of my bag haven't picked up since.

OP meth is one of the greatest experiences out there, but please stay true to your word. Few times a month at most! It can quickly turn to the most evil drug you have ever known.
 
Meth burns out your brain very quickly and there's a high chance your brain will never fully recover. For example, there was a post I read the other day where the dude said it burns off the neurons in the substantia nigra. The dopaminergic neurons there normally die ~1.5-2% a year, but meth use speeds up that process. You don't get those neurons back, and when/if they're all gone later in life, you develop Parkinson's.

That was the only part he commented on because it's the only part of the brain he studied wrt meth's effects.

But just think about it in common sense terms: meth triggers fight-or-flight, right. Normally, how often are we in fight-or-flight? Even 10 minutes would be a very long time. But meth keeps you there for what, 24 hours, minimum? No shit there's going to be some potentially serious damage even with extremely sporadic use.

And I say this from experience: I used very occasionally, worked out extensively, meditate a whole lot, took supplements to minimize damage... and I still feel like meth took something away from my top-end potential.
 
IME i was using meth in relatively low doses, but i'd use it often smoking every hour two . The damage felt very minimal , especially when comparing to ecstasy or MDMA cut with meth.
I usually used meth with xanax as well, meaning i probably prevented some extra damage because a lot of that fight or flight was shut off or minimized by xanax. I would sleep it off and feel pretty normal with in a day or two, but yea no doubt meth is a neuro toxic drug. I just think if used a few times a month it really isn't that bad, i mean people are prescribed methamphetamine to be taken daily for ADHD...

This is all relative to dose though, using large doses is definitely a lot more damaging which is why i kept it pretty low.
 
Yeah, using it a couple of times a month was the top end of my usage. (A couple of times I binged, but that was many years ago.) And I've never been much of a smoker; I snort it 90% of the time.

I hope to God you're right, though. I haven't been off it for enough years to really say for sure.
 
Don't over think it, if using it a couple times a month was the top of your usage you didn't cause much damage. There are people who have been daily users for years and quit, still enjoying life.
As i said, i really think MDMA is down played on this forum. That is the chemical that really causes long term damage according to my research and experience. Took for ever to start feeling semi happy and normal again.
 
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