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Stimulants Methamp. Dust/Transformation?/ Attn : Aspiring or Actual Chemists

To be totally honest, methamphetamine is absorbed incredibly well orally. I see no reason to go to smoking or needles, but then again, i'm not an amp-head.

Same reason with other drugs, it's much more euphoric/recreational vaped vs oral or insufflated. Haven't shot it yet, but it's on the to do list. Plus the ritual involved (seeing that vapor swirling around in the pipe, rotating it to get it just right not burning any, it's pretty great, fun group activity as well).
 
^Agreed it can be a very social drug, when not in the presence of tweakers/hardcore addicts.


I get equal, if not more euphoria via the intranasal route, vs. smoking (which comes on faster but the crash isn't worth it as primary ROA)
 
Isn smoking pretty much the best way to intake any drug ? Lol :/

Question related to dextroamphetamine, I want to try to purify dexedrines and see how much "dextroamphetamine" is actually in tere Cus I wanna test to see the reliability of my guy and see if he's been messing of them and also rail that pure dextro-amp

I heard about the Acetone/ethanol cleansing method, but I have also seen people telling that anhydrous acetone and methanol ( or smthing don't rmber) works better ? Someone clarify for me pls.. And If I were to use the cleansing method how many mg or g of Dexedrine would I need as one capsule is one 10 mg
 
Methamphetamine can be addictive, but only like 3% of people who use it become serious addicts. However, methamphetamine addiction can be very scary mainly because a meth addict can and will do literally anything to get more of the drug, and will neglect everything else. This has a lot to do with the fact that meth is expensive and not always easy to find though; if cigarettes were illegal, you would see smokers acting much the same way illegal drug addicts act.

Acetone is not bad for your teeth, it's not even toxic at all really. It's the hydrochloric acid you have to worry about. Also, if you use a lot of meth, that can dry out your mouth, which prevents your saliva from mineralizing your teeth. So if you eat and drink acidic stuff, this will wear your teeth away, and your saliva won't be there to do its job of maintaining them. In any case, when I was using meth, I was super meticulous about brushing my teeth twice a day because I didn't want anything to happen to my teeth. I think this is good advice for everyone who does end up using this stuff. Also, when I noticed myself start picking at my skin, I'd smoke a bowl of weed and go to sleep. Picking at your skin is a good sign that you need to stop, at least for me, and weed would always get rid of the meth effects, although YMMV.

Methamphetamine is not that flammable, but if the vapor is thick enough it can flash. If there are traces of solvent in the meth, that could increase its flammability too. Acetone evaporates so quickly that if you buy it, there wouldn't be any left by the time you got it home. And it has a strong, distinctive smell, like nail polish remover.

When I used it, I only used about a gram a month, which isn't really that much at all. I would get a pyrex test tube, then hold a torch on the side of the tube until it started to glow, then carefully blow into the tube so that a bubble would form on the red spot. Eventually, the bubble would burst, which would leave a hole in the side of the test tube. Then I'd drop some crystals in the tube and suck in to smoke it. It worked quite well all in all. You can get pyrex test tubes on ebay or whatever. They're maybe 50 cents each.

The ethanol/acetone mix (or methanol/acetone mix) is used to grow nice big shards. The way it works is, you dissolve the meth in ethanol or methanol, then add acetone. If crystals fall out, add more alcohol until it all dissolves. Then let it evaporate. It will leave behind big shards, and once it all evaporates, you can more easily dissolve away the impurities with acetone.
 
Methamphetamine can be addictive, but only like 3% of people who use it become serious addicts. However, methamphetamine addiction can be very scary mainly because a meth addict can and will do literally anything to get more of the drug, and will neglect everything else. This has a lot to do with the fact that meth is expensive and not always easy to find though; if cigarettes were illegal, you would see smokers acting much the same way illegal drug addicts act.

did you know that 79.23439208% of statistics are made up on the spot?
Where the hell did you come up with that number?
I'm addicted to meth, and I don't "do anything to get it." I don't "neglect everything else."
Got some sources for your info?

Acetone is not bad for your teeth, it's not even toxic at all really.

"As concentrations approach 1000 ppm (of acetone), noticeable irritation has occurred and some people have reported headaches, light-headedness and tiredness. Inhalation of concentrations higher than 2000 ppm can cause dizziness, a feeling of drunkenness, drowsiness, nausea and vomiting. Unconsciousness may result if exposure is extremely high (greater than 10000 ppm). Intolerable nose and throat irritation would also occur at these concentrations. Even higher concentrations can cause collapse, coma and death." - canadian centre for occupational health and safety website

yeahhhhhhh, not toxic, what?
 
Ok guys I did a little research on the stats and in the final analysis...it depends on who is quoting them. The DEA scare campaigns aimed at teens say that 99% of people that do meth are hooked from the very first time.

Here is what the National Crime Prevention Council says:

National Crime Prevention Council: America's Methamphetamine Problem
http://128.121.17.146/ncpc/ncpc/?pg=5882-2006-11324-8774

"The 2001 National Household Survey on Drug Abuse found that 4.3 percent of the U.S. population (9.6 million people) have tried methamphetamine at least once, and at least one million had used it in the past year."

Using their figures, 9.6 million people have tried meth, and assuming the worst-case scenario, let's say all of the one million who used methamphetamine in the past year are addicted. That would be an addiction rate of about 10%. But the government is telling kids on it's "meth-is-death" web site that the addiction rate for first time users is 95-99%. One would expect the government to overdramatize a little in our children's interest, but this is such a transparent lie that only the youngest children are likely to believe it. Older "at-risk" children will see right through it and be more likely to discount or question other assertions made on the site.

Methamphetamine is more addictive than alcohol, but it can also be said that alcohol is far more destructive to American families and society. The National Institute on Alcohol Abuse and Alcoholism's (NIAAA's) 2001-2002 National Epidemiologic Survey on Alcohol and Related Conditions (NESARC) finds that 17.6 million Americans were either dependent on alcohol or misused it in 2001-2002, compared with 13.8 million adults in 1991-1992. The rate of alcohol misuse increased from 3.03 percent of the population to 4.65 percent during the decade, while the rate of alcohol addiction declined from an estimated 4.38 percent of the population to 3.81 percent. There are many more Americans addicted to alcohol than to methamphetamine.

So, guys, who are you gonna believe? The DEA, which uses scare propaganda to ensure that their jobs are safe for ever and ever? Or a council that does not depend on the Drug War and the seizures from the Drug War to line its pockets?
 
Methamphetamine is more addictive than alcohol, but it can also be said that alcohol is far more destructive to American families and society. The National Institute on Alcohol Abuse and Alcoholism's (NIAAA's) 2001-2002 National Epidemiologic Survey on Alcohol and Related Conditions (NESARC) finds that 17.6 million Americans were either dependent on alcohol or misused it in 2001-2002, compared with 13.8 million adults in 1991-1992. The rate of alcohol misuse increased from 3.03 percent of the population to 4.65 percent during the decade, while the rate of alcohol addiction declined from an estimated 4.38 percent of the population to 3.81 percent. There are many more Americans addicted to alcohol than to methamphetamine.

No shit! Hello! Alcohol is LEGAL. Meth is NOT LEGAL. I don't see websites smeared with "booze is death!" and repetitive photos of some drunk passed out on a stool at some pub, I see websites with "the faces of meth," the old toothless sea hag who obviously went a few bags too far. Meth and alcohol are viewed extremely differently in our society, comparing these two is like apples and oranges. I bet if you stood me (meth user, goes to work everyday, has 2 jobs, pays my bills, maintains many good relationships, etc) next to some alcoholic (who spends all his money on booze, goes to the bar everyday, neglects his family, etc) I would be willing to bet that I would be the one pointed at and shunned because I use meth, not the drunkard who drinks a case of beer a day because, oh, it's just alcohol and OH no that's scary meth she's a freak she's gonna steal your stuff omgggg....

Let's just say for example that meth was legal, and so was alcohol. It says above that meth is more addictive than alcohol, yet apparently alcohol causes more harm to american families and society. Well, if both of them were legal, I would be willing to bet that meth would blow alcohol out of the water in terms of harm to families and societies, and I bet more people would use it than alcohol. Just a thought.

"...were either dependent upon or misused alcohol..." well that's quite a broad term. Did you know that if you drink more than one drink per hour, it is considered "binge drinking," which I imagine would be under the category of "misuse." Now, how many people do you know that drink one drink per hour, according to their body weight, keeping in mind what they ate that day, what medications they have taken...see my point? That's a pretty skewed statistic if you ask me. According to their definitions, everybody I know is a binge drinking alcoholic.

So, guys, who are you gonna believe? The DEA, which uses scare propaganda to ensure that their jobs are safe for ever and ever? Or a council that does not depend on the Drug War and the seizures from the Drug War to line its pockets?

I don't believe anything the american government tells us. They tell us what they want to tell us. Not what we need to know. And the sheep listen.
 
Methamphetamine can be addictive, but only like 3% of people who use it become serious addicts.

This would mean that methamphetamine is the least addictive recreational drug, outside of classical psychedelics.

ebola
 
"The 2001 National Household Survey on Drug Abuse found that 4.3 percent of the U.S. population (9.6 million people) have tried methamphetamine at least once, and at least one million had used it in the past year."

So everyone that tries meth, 99% are hooked instantly according to the DEA. So how come only "at least one million" people have used it in the past year? Wouldn't one expect that to be more like almost ten million people? After all, it hooks the user instantly...

My point is that this scare propaganda does a disservice to people who are interested in the facts, not facts spun (pun intended) to fit the viewpoint/perspective of the person quoting the statistics.

No one here is saying that meth is good - what I am saying is that putting out false information to scare people is pretty f***ing shady. Some of us (the general public) have been blessed with and/or learned critical thinking skills and to ALWAYS consider the source of any information.

As for the people that demonize meth out of one side of their mouth while sucking on a glass d*** with a fat hit of crack on the other side (or a rig of H in their arm), that makes no sense to me. Cocaine, heroin, and meth are all in the top tier of the recreational drug game, and one is no better than the other. Doing one over the other does not make you any better (or any worse) than someone else. Do not attempt to elevate yourself by stepping on the backs of others.

In the final analysis, if given the chance to work their "magic," any or all three will enslave, then devour you.

@Ebola, I am guessing you do not like Portland fucking Oregon? lol I LOVE your little avatar. Sweet little baby.
 
^Thankx. When I saw your moniker my mind did go in a certain direction, but I figured that that is just me. Apparently not, though, as I see Slash right before my eyes. You DO know that GNR has a song called "Dust and Bones?" Just an FYI.

Rocket Queen means "speedfreak" in certain circles and "freak" in others. Either way, if the shoe fits... :-)
 
My 3% statistic had to do with a comparison of the estimated number of meth addicts versus the estimated number of people who have tried meth. I'm on dialup at the moment, so it'll be all but impossible for me to look up my sources, but suffice to say, it's probably in the single digits. After all, not everyone who has used meth in the last year is an addict. Granted, my estimate was probably a lowball one, but it's certainly much more accurate than the DEA's version. But of course, the DEA is essentially a self-propagating bullshit factory, so of all sources, they're probably the least reliable.

I would also postulate that there is a difference between addiction and dependence. If you have, say, chronic fatigue syndrome, and depend on a bump of meth in the morning to get through the day, I wouldn't characterize that as addiction. I was using it to self-medicate during the depression side of my bipolar disorder (I used weed to manage the manic symptoms) and although I think it would be accurate to say I was dependent on it (as I was weed) I don't think it would be accurate to say I was an addict. I've quit within the past year due to a combination of looking for work since I graduated (worried about drug testing) and not wanting to go to jail, but I'm still using drugs, they're just drugs that aren't tested for by drug screens.
 
My 3% statistic had to do with a comparison of the estimated number of meth addicts versus the estimated number of people who have tried meth.

Holy thread necro!

Anyway, this isn't a fair comparison, as due to the large amount of social stigma surrounding meth, the ratio of single-time to occasional users is likely greater than with other substances. Nothing addicts anyone with a single use. A better comparison would be between "regular users" (let's say ~once a month or more frequent) to addicts.

ebola
 
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