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  • BDD Moderators: Keif’ Richards | negrogesic

Opioids Methadone vs. Oxycodone

Btw methadone certainly can be effective for pain and it definitely can get me high despite being on it for years as opioid maintenance.

But the issue is that this definitely is not the case for everyone and if it doesn't work for you then you should be allowed to switch to a different medication.

I find it disgusting that Drs are putting fear of abuse above humane treatment of patients and trying to force people to only take those drugs that have the lowest likelihood of producing euphoria irrespective of the treatments efficacy for that individual patient

And this goes for treating addiction as well my boyfriend isn't held by buprenorphine and methadone works but causes extremely profuse and embarrassing sweating which he finds very upsetting yet the Dr's refuse to prescribe an alternative opioid.

In any condition other than addiction (and it seems they treat chronic pain patients as though they're addicts in the us these days) if a patient found a drug so intolerable they would be switched to another medication.

But God forbid the patient experiences euphoria!! How terrible that would be!
 
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I wish I understood more about your medical hierarchy and knew some way of getting you to a better outcome. Maybe you should move here bud, At least the NHS will not let this happen, or there are many options to avoid it.

DM me and I will give you some options to try ?

I'm not sure how foreigners (I won't use the term "illegal aliens" as its derogatory) get treated by the NHS but he certainly won't be entitled to free healthcare.
 
Yeah, I prefer oxy or morphine. Methadone makes your tolerance rise really quickly without even getting you high. I used to save my weekend take-homes and take three on a Monday and I'd be nodding a bit most of the day.


I tried taking a couple days doses at once when i was in methadone. I was on 60 and took 180 one day. All it did was make me sleep, zero euphoria
 
Btw methadone certainly can be effective for pain and it definitely can get me high despite being on it for years as opioid maintenance.

But the issue is that this definitely is not the case for everyone and if it doesn't work for you then you should be allowed to switch to a different medication.

I find it disgusting that Drs are putting fear of abuse above humane treatment of patients and trying to force people to only take those drugs that have the lowest likelihood of producing euphoria irrespective of the treatments efficacy for that individual patient

And this goes for treating addiction as well my boyfriend isn't held by buprenorphine and methadone works but causes extremely profuse and embarrassing sweating which he finds very upsetting yet the Dr's refuse to prescribe an alternative opioid.

In any condition other than addiction (and it seems they treat chronic pain patients as though they're addicts in the us these days) if a patient found a drug so intolerable they would be switched to another medication.

But God forbid the patient experiences euphoria!! How terrible that would be!


I think people with cancer and other painful diseases DESERVE euphoria from their drugs, they are dying afterall
 
Yeah, studies have shown that it is the Euphoria that is a key component in bringing pain under control so that “management” is even possible.

Plus, when you are way far down below “normal”, the euphoria really isn’t euphoria but more like raising you up a little closer to feeling normal. Kind of like when you are having an anxiety attack, the anxiety medication brings you back to a more normal state. You don’t feel a lot of euphoria from it when it is really needed. You feel “relief”.

Balancing the scales.
 
My earlier post was supposed to hint at the fact that it can be a really negative thing to say to someone "yea this works" or "no that's not enough" or "wow that's no good", as individual experiences vary. The route of this problem is that you really need a full medical history, complete with medication trials and results etc. even then, how often do people not get what they need. That is in the very best of circumstances. A HR forum is not really meant to be a place where people get medical advice in such a way as this. We have no right to butt into this MD's approach.

If somebody is just out for a little recreational experience, what's the harm? A person is liable for their own decisions, but this is a person's health and physical pain that we are talking about. Tweaking it incorrectly or providing unsound advice could lead to permanent and disastrously life-altering consequences. If you think it's a ridiculous notion to suggest that a person like OP could take advice from us, get cut off by their prescriber and end up on the street looking for Fentanyl, alone and alienated from the people he or she once cared for, then you have some serious learning to do.

None of us know "what works". This is a licit, medical problem that can be treated by a doctor. There is no Harm to Reduce in this instance. OP is just looking for opinions on medications. Don't try to tell me that a bad quality of life constitutes our kind of HR, because it's not. If OP feels he is imminent danger.

OP, please follow your doc's guidelines. You don't want to mess with it, trust me.
 
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