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Methadone Clinic- Should I or not.

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juzproductionz

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Getting my dope is getting to be an expensive habit and since I have no job and just got turned down for disability I do not know what I am going to do. I have terrible anxiety and depression and opiates are the only thing that make me feel "normal" I know this may seem like a sad accuse to get high, but have been been depressed and anxious all my life. Even when I quite all drugs for a years and explored many avenues of therapy and medicine things were even worse then when I am using drugs now.

The problem is that I deal with a middle man who charges me $5 extra a pack so he can get his cut. And it takes at least 3 packs to do anything.

I don't want to be extremely addicted because money issues plus tolerance so I do this three times a week and on my off days I take tramadol (which does nothing for mood or anxiety) so I don't withdrawal bad.

Since, I know quiting is not an option for me, and I am spending a hell of a lot money than I would be doing at a done clinic, should I get my dope legally.

It sounds good I spend less money, get to take opitates everyday which = less depression for me, and don't have to worry about going to jail.

I know everyone here would advise me against this since I don't have monster habit yet and done withdrawal are horrible, but even then if I ever did want to quit could I just taper and move or too sub?

I figured I would be saving almost $80 a week, that could pay for my car insurance each month and I would still have $200 left over. And the lady at the done clinic sure sounds like she want to take me in, she actually teaches at my school.

Thanks.
 
it's really up to you. Why dont u buy a bunch of bags and figure out a way to taper down. Then quit. It will be alot harder quiting methadone. Ive seen alot of people switch over to that, then get strung out on it. So my advice is taper down and just quit! Or find a good connect and keep using.
 
I feel for you so much man. I too suffer depression and anxiety and have a middle man problem. costs me 10$ everytime I want to get high and I don't have a job. Quitting isn't an option, not because of withdrawls but because heroin is really the only love I have left for life.


I think you should try methadone but be open minded about quitting, the legal risks are non existent but the addiction risk is a promise. I hope you find the right thing for you to do. Best of luck to you.
 
Do you a tleast get a high off methadone. I don't care about nodding off and burning ciggs on my couch, but I will miss the warm, sociable feeling that H or OXY gives me.

And like Harumscxarum said quitting is not an options maybe in the future when my depression lifts but since it's been a whole life thing I dont see that happening soon, and I havent been shooting so it may be good liquid cuffs before I have a needle obsession. I saw how bad that screwed peoples life up but deep down inside whenever I see a needle I get so tempted I even trie dto do it a couple times but was left with a missed shot and bruisies, and a lump on my arm..that teaches me.
 
I think Methadone would be a good step and but I think Suboxone would be an even better one. I was addicted to opiates for about 2 years and heroin for about 1 year. I know how you feel and the spot you have pushed your self into. Check it out online you can sighup for a program that finds you a doctor and gives you there contact information. Suboxone would be cheaper then Methadone in most cases. Just monthly visits instead of daily as well its much more convient. Easier to tapper off it and less addicting. I personally feel it help with craveings far more then methadone. I will reply shortly with the proper link if you are intrested in sighing up. (Due to a law every Suboxone doctor can only have 30 patients each, this finder sends you an email of the closest doctor with an open slot) I have been on Suboxone for about 7 months now. Rehab, Cold turkey and more tappers with heroin then I can count failed where Suboxone hasent. I truley feel its the best bet for any opiate/heroin addict.
 
id say go on the methadone program, start off on the smalles dose you can with out getting sick. once you get into the really high doses of over 100mgs it becomes almost impossible to kick.

yea suboxone would be an easier kick, but since it sounds like $ is an issue, suboxone prolly wouldnt work. most drs charge a buttload for treatment, not to the mention the pills are expensive too.

i know someone said try and taper down off some bags, i dont know about everyone else, but when it comes to heroin, i could never just taper with it. if i have it, im gonna slam it, get sick and get more. if you have the willpower to taper down using heroin, more power to you...

so yeah, id try a low dose of methadone and maybe some counseling. ive always kinda been against NA and AA, but sometimes you learn things at those meetings. not to mention all the sob stories that have crashed and burned hard in life, seeing ppl in such a shitty situation might make you rethink where you want to be in a few years. good luck man.
 
your problem sounds a lot like mine friend, I have suffered with anxiety and nervousness around people my whole life, Opiates are the only thing that make me feel myself and Open to talk to people. I am currently on suboxone and it really is a wonderful drug, I recommend it for you as well. It still isnt Quite as good as H or Oxy and whatever else
 
I tried bupe at a rehab and all it did was give me a real bad headache.

Methadone I heard is atleast as good as taking a handful of vicodens and if Im not wanting to get off of it, and just want to "maintain" for right now, I guess I shouldnt be worried so much about the withdrawals.

My friend said he used to get high off his ass on done. But, if i take it everyday just like anything else it will probally level off, but im hopping it will sgtill do something for the depression.

The only bad thing I see is explaning to my parents why I have to leave for a half an hour each morning.
 
Still without a middles man- 4 packs = 40 x 3=120
Methadone clinic = 65 and get to use everday. I know this sounds poor, but hey.

I really need to get a job, and I think if I was able to stay on opiods everydays my anxiety wouldn't get in the way and I might be able actually to hold one down since they make me sociable and talkative as hell.

The longest I ever kept a job was 3 months, and im 21 years old. The only good days was when I was oxy'd out and that was b4 I had a habit or access to drugs.

My parents hate me, and my psych loves me because he gets to get paid for giving me a bunch of meds that don't work.

The anxiety always got in the way I always cared what other thought I guess and I cant deal with people. One boss fired me because he said he dont trust people that don't talk...like wtf, I showed up everday and worked my ass off. but atleast he was being honest.

Benzo made it so I dont care as much about what other think, but they do not provoke much conversation, or change my mood at all.

Don't dare anyone recommend an SSRI or SNRI. I have been on about everyone prozac, zoloft, lexapro, effexor, paxil, wellbutrin, remeron plus off labeled shit like depakote and zypreka. And herbal remedies such as SAM-E, and St. John Wort.

They all made me worse, especially lexapro, which to me the first couple days was worse then herion withdrawal, which i can testify that is one of the worst things I have went through. The lack of effectiveness of SSRI probally explain why tramadol does jack shit except starves off withdrawal.

My doctor gave up on switching my med around after he tried abunch of different combos and dose increases. He still makes me take the zoloft because he says he has to in order for him to perscibe me klonopin which is probally a lie, the drug company probally gives him bonuses for every drugs the patient is put on. Drugs reps are always there when Im at the office handing out samples and shit like clocks and pins. I kid you not one day he asked me if I minded if he ate in front on me and I said "no," and he whipped out a bag of chips that had ZOOFT across the label. Sorry, I know these meds might for some but they make me sick to even think about them. I bet the combo of zoloft is the reason why i feel tired all the time, and have aches all over my body.

When I see my regular doc instead of tramadol im going to ask him for "teragisic" which is Suboxone without the blocker and is used for pain. But, I doubt he will give it to me since he is agianst narcotics or anything scheduled. So I guess its done for me because I doubt a doc is going to prescribe big amount or any amount of opiods for depression. And my insurance does not cover sub, I don'tt think.
 
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^ You got that right man, Doctors will NEVER script you any type of opiate/opioid for depression so you might aswell forget that idea and go along with the methadone treatment or suboxone, good luck.
 
juzproductionz said:
Still without a middles man- 4 packs = 40 x 3=120
Methadone clinic = 65 and get to use everday. I know this sounds poor, but hey.

I really need to get a job, and I think if I was able to stay on opiods everydays my anxiety wouldn't get in the way and I might be able actually to hold one down since they make me sociable and talkative as hell.

The longest I ever kept a job was 3 months, and im 21 years old. The only good days was when I was oxy'd out and that was b4 I had a habit or access to drugs.

My parents hate me, and my psych loves me because he gets to get paid for giving me a bunch of meds that don't work.

The anxiety always got in the way I always cared what other thought I guess and I cant deal with people. One boss fired me because he said he dont trust people that don't talk...like wtf, I showed up everday and worked my ass off. but atleast he was being honest.

Benzo made it so I dont care as much about what other think, but they do not provoke much conversation, or change my mood at all.

Don't dare anyone recommend an SSRI or SNRI. I have been on about everyone prozac, zoloft, lexapro, effexor, paxil, wellbutrin, remeron plus off labeled shit like depakote and zypreka. And herbal remedies such as SAM-E, and St. John Wort.

They all made me worse, especially lexapro, which to me the first couple days was worse then herion withdrawal, which i can testify that is one of the worst things I have went through. The lack of effectiveness of SSRI probally explain why tramadol does jack shit except starves off withdrawal.

My doctor gave up on switching my med around after he tried abunch of different combos and dose increases. He still makes me take the zoloft because he says he has to in order for him to perscibe me klonopin which is probally a lie, the drug company probally gives him bonuses for every drugs the patient is put on. Drugs reps are always there when Im at the office handing out samples and shit like clocks and pins. I kid you not one day he asked me if I minded if he ate in front on me and I said "no," and he whipped out a bag of chips that had ZOOFT across the label. Sorry, I know these meds might for some but they make me sick to even think about them. I bet the combo of zoloft is the reason why i feel tired all the time, and have aches all over my body.

When I see my regular doc instead of tramadol im going to ask him for "teragisic" which is Suboxone without the blocker and is used for pain. But, I doubt he will give it to me since he is agianst narcotics or anything scheduled. So I guess its done for me because I doubt a doc is going to prescribe big amount or any amount of opiods for depression. And my insurance does not cover sub, I don'tt think.
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Are you saying methadone treatment is 65 'insert currency here' a week? If so that's not bad at all. GL
 
^Thats cheap? My clinic goes up to 60 MAX. I pay the minimum of 30$ for 700mg/week. Not bad concidering that dose on the street would be about ~500$/week
 
I'd say try the methadone route out, it has done wonders for me. No you dont get high as fuck off of it but every morning when I dose I can tell im on opiates for about 4-6 hours then it fades. I tried out suboxone before I went to the clinic not only was it more expensive all it did was make me feel like shit unless I took a bunch of benzos with it which is quite dangerous. I do plan on using suboxone again whenever I decide to get off the mdone though. also for those that miss the H or oxy high when I wanna catch a buzz i score some shit and then do that in the morning and wait till later in the day to go to the clinic. Here the clinic is open to 5:30pm but I also will never get take homes cause of my failed drug tests but I have been clean the last 2.
 
actually yes. at the clinic I go to they dose you the same day they also drug test you but its the kind that are sent to the lab, but once they find out you are not an addict im sure they would kick you out
 
not trying to be offensive (because in my perfect world opiates would BE a basis for antidepressants),

but are you trying to stay high for cheaper or find a way to get off the dope? because it sounds like your criteria for decision-making is cost and pleasure. and for both sub and methadone programs, you typically want to aim for kicking the habit, or maintaining your health and dosage. the latter implies the continued ingestion of the drug with the objective of giving up the high.

the devil's advocate suggests that going to the methadone clinic could perhaps, but not necessarily, tend towards making a mockery of people, with worse habits and loftier goals, using the program to get help.
 
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