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PhreeX
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No, you just get to the point where you don't realize yer tweaked.. eventually it becomes medicine, and you need it to feel "normal" - this isn't a bad thing, it can benifit many...
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PAK CHOOIE UNF! Do not trust the pusher robot, he is malfunctioning, we are here to protect you..
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PAK CHOOIE UNF! Do not trust the pusher robot, he is malfunctioning, we are here to protect you..
MzKzM
Bluelighter
You really think it can benefit you 2 have a serious addiction to methamphetamine (or any kind-of-speed)? I mean...large amounts of speed (escpecially meth) will break you down, not?! Then why is this positive?
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SpeedLimit55
Bluelighter
Yes. After a few weeks or even days of constant use (Daily, several times a day, etc) you will not even feel tweaked. It will stop fucking with your appetite.
It will get to the point you will actually NEED it to get to sleep!
You also won't know that your mailbox is a mailbox...he's actually an undercover DEA agent...after all, he's whispering to you...
As far as it benefiting some people...PhreeX just hates damn near everyone...and the way he sees it, the faster the human race dies off, the better...
PhreeX
Bluelight Crew
As I stated many times, I could NOT get to sleep until I shot a nice fat load of crystal... one injection and I could doze off.. does it benifit the user? Well, only if you have a steady supply ..
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PAK CHOOIE UNF! Do not trust the pusher robot, he is malfunctioning, we are here to protect you..
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PAK CHOOIE UNF! Do not trust the pusher robot, he is malfunctioning, we are here to protect you..
PhreeX
Bluelight Crew
There is meth abuse, and there is self-medication .. when I was blasting a 1/4g of ass-kicking meth and staying awake for 5+ days, THAT was abuse ... but when I began to control the intake, and dosed with a small amount on a regular schedule, as well as SLEPT and ATE, my life was FAR better.. it was not only an anti-depressant but it motivated me to get the fuck up and do something with my life ...
I still stand by this, and am looking into a similar situation with opiates... we are in phase-II of our clinical trials now...
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PAK CHOOIE UNF! Do not trust the pusher robot, he is malfunctioning, we are here to protect you..
I still stand by this, and am looking into a similar situation with opiates... we are in phase-II of our clinical trials now...
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PAK CHOOIE UNF! Do not trust the pusher robot, he is malfunctioning, we are here to protect you..
huxley
Bluelighter
meth stages:
1. live a normal life.
2. try some meth.
3. think to yourself "shit, I'm suddenly awake and I feel good".
4. realise that before stage 2. you were essentially asleep, like most people who think they are living a normal life.
The trick, as PhreeX points out, is avioding the abuse.
cheers,
hux.
btw: from experience, the bumping/smoking/etc can become a 'ritual' after a while and not really get you any more 'tweaked out' as such.
1. live a normal life.
2. try some meth.
3. think to yourself "shit, I'm suddenly awake and I feel good".
4. realise that before stage 2. you were essentially asleep, like most people who think they are living a normal life.
The trick, as PhreeX points out, is avioding the abuse.
cheers,
hux.
btw: from experience, the bumping/smoking/etc can become a 'ritual' after a while and not really get you any more 'tweaked out' as such.
you are whole as you are right now.
you don't need a substance to tell you are important and worthy.
you can be perfect just being yourself...you were born with all the tools...nothing is missing...
after you realize that then you can use drugz to have fun...
you don't need a substance to tell you are important and worthy.
you can be perfect just being yourself...you were born with all the tools...nothing is missing...
after you realize that then you can use drugz to have fun...
PhreeX
Bluelight Crew
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Bullshit! Some people are simply NOT UP TO PAR as is.. even before I had done ANY drugs, I was depressed and just couldn't find a reason to get out of bed... no matter WHAT I did I was miserable... I even did the "eat right and get excersize" thing from about 8th grade to 10th - sorry, I still just felt like crap... enters the drugs - SSRI's, nope.. TAD's - nope ... methamphetamine - yes, it worked.. sure, it took some WILL POWER to keep the self-medication from spilling into ABUSE, but it DID work...
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PAK CHOOIE UNF! Do not trust the pusher robot, he is malfunctioning, we are here to protect you..
Bullshit! Some people are simply NOT UP TO PAR as is.. even before I had done ANY drugs, I was depressed and just couldn't find a reason to get out of bed... no matter WHAT I did I was miserable... I even did the "eat right and get excersize" thing from about 8th grade to 10th - sorry, I still just felt like crap... enters the drugs - SSRI's, nope.. TAD's - nope ... methamphetamine - yes, it worked.. sure, it took some WILL POWER to keep the self-medication from spilling into ABUSE, but it DID work...
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PAK CHOOIE UNF! Do not trust the pusher robot, he is malfunctioning, we are here to protect you..
huxley
Bluelighter
funny, I don't recall saying that meth was required for anyone to feel whole, or important or worthy - I believe that drug is called organized religion.
Anyway, to avoid argument (sometimes the other side effect of meth is that you just can't be fucked arguing with people...) let me state categorically that I don't advocate the use/abuse of meth or any other drug especially, and let me say this carefully, 'to have fun'.
I was simply hoping to show that for some the stages of meth use is more eye-opening than recreational. For some it is downright dangerous and destructive. I've seen both sides. Should you forego one for fear of the other? That's up to each person to decide. Anyway, this is getting way off topic.
On-topic: to be honest, in nearly 12 months of semi-regular use I've only gone more than 2 nights without sleep maybe 4 times - what can I say, I also love sleep
- and only once had a quantity that totally knocked me on my ass. It was semi crushed glass (the crap you get when you know it's been stomped on a little, not those nice big crystals), about the size of a 'normal' coke line (maybe 2 points), stupid bloody ex gf and her mind-games...anyway, to be honest I didn't particularly like it. Not being able to get more than 2 words out at a time 'cos your mouth wont keep up isn't that fun.
cheers,
hux.
[This message has been edited by huxley (edited 31 May 2001).]
Anyway, to avoid argument (sometimes the other side effect of meth is that you just can't be fucked arguing with people...) let me state categorically that I don't advocate the use/abuse of meth or any other drug especially, and let me say this carefully, 'to have fun'.
I was simply hoping to show that for some the stages of meth use is more eye-opening than recreational. For some it is downright dangerous and destructive. I've seen both sides. Should you forego one for fear of the other? That's up to each person to decide. Anyway, this is getting way off topic.
On-topic: to be honest, in nearly 12 months of semi-regular use I've only gone more than 2 nights without sleep maybe 4 times - what can I say, I also love sleep
cheers,
hux.
[This message has been edited by huxley (edited 31 May 2001).]
CaucasianHomeboy
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PhreeX--
Just out of curiosity, what's the longest you've gone before without sleep? I've heard of people up like 140+ hours on meth, but I have never really been sure what's acctually humanly possible.
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"Prohibition...goes beyond the bounds of reason in that it attempts to control a man's appetite by legislation and makes a crime out of things that are not crimes. A prohibition law strikes a blow at the very principles upon which out government was founded."
--Abraham Lincoln -- December, 1840
Just out of curiosity, what's the longest you've gone before without sleep? I've heard of people up like 140+ hours on meth, but I have never really been sure what's acctually humanly possible.
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"Prohibition...goes beyond the bounds of reason in that it attempts to control a man's appetite by legislation and makes a crime out of things that are not crimes. A prohibition law strikes a blow at the very principles upon which out government was founded."
--Abraham Lincoln -- December, 1840
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DJ Wannabe
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And PhreeX, PLEASE repost your story of
paranoid delusions of being raided and
living out of a hotel for months before
you were actually raided. I tried to find
while you were taking requests for posts to
be archived, but couldn't find it.
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~I live to learn and learn to live.
~"I'd rather have 30 minutes of wonderful, than a lifetime of mediocre." - Steel Magnolias
paranoid delusions of being raided and
living out of a hotel for months before
you were actually raided. I tried to find
while you were taking requests for posts to
be archived, but couldn't find it.
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~I live to learn and learn to live.
~"I'd rather have 30 minutes of wonderful, than a lifetime of mediocre." - Steel Magnolias
PhreeX
Bluelight Crew
I am gunna fucking post these on my webpage..
Longest I stayed awake - 16 days, only cat-napped a few times... it all ended when I was driving down a VERY BUMPY DIRT ROAD at about 4am, I had an ounce of freshly cooked meth on me - I thought I hit a female on roller blades - remember, this is a BUMPY DIRT AND GRAVEL ROAD ... I jumped out of the car, threw the meth everywhere, got a gun and went looking for the body... of course there was no body, hell, I didn't even hit anything... it's called methamphetamine psychosis ...
As for the paranoia stories - keep in mind we were not you self-medicators, we were SPEED FREAKS .. we lived in a lab that produced batches around 1/4lb - we did NOT sleep durring the process, and eventually the psychosis set in to the point we were armed to the teeth, some fully-automatic weappons - we had to protect ourselves from the DEA and some Ninjas that came into play later ..
The story everyone likes is this one - there are 3 people in the house, myself, Kenny, and Rich who is about 200 miles away, so of course there should ONLY be me and Kenny - we are both in the back bedroom, and we hear the front door open - IT'S THE DEA! RAID! Fuck it, we would get 25-to-life sentences, we better shoot our way out... so from within the back bedroom, Kenny shot 2 12-gauge rounds right through the fucking door/wall ... of course it wasn't the DEA, if was Riches girlfriend, and it was an ACT OF GOD that she was not hit...
As for the hotels - it worked like this.. we would cook, make some cash, do lots of speed, and then SOMEHOW it would be mentioned that someone had "inside info" and that a raid was comming - all bullshit of course, but when you're ALL suffering from psychosis it seems logical... so this kid named Christian has a "friend" who KNOWS that they are going to raid us tomorrow - what do we do? We leave the lab, grab our shit, and make a break for the car.. here is the funny part - Christian had "warned" us about the agents in the trees, so I took it upon myself to unload an entire Glock 17 into a tree.. must have missed the agent.. we then drove to some lavish hotel and lived there for a week, then returned and it started all over again...
My favorite was the time we were sure the DEA had the house bugged, so we didn't talk but rather wrote messages back and fourth to each other..
YES, all that is true - methamphetamine psychosis is a SCARY FUCKING THING ... but remember, we were SPEEDFREAKS!
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PAK CHOOIE UNF! Do not trust the pusher robot, he is malfunctioning, we are here to protect you..
Longest I stayed awake - 16 days, only cat-napped a few times... it all ended when I was driving down a VERY BUMPY DIRT ROAD at about 4am, I had an ounce of freshly cooked meth on me - I thought I hit a female on roller blades - remember, this is a BUMPY DIRT AND GRAVEL ROAD ... I jumped out of the car, threw the meth everywhere, got a gun and went looking for the body... of course there was no body, hell, I didn't even hit anything... it's called methamphetamine psychosis ...
As for the paranoia stories - keep in mind we were not you self-medicators, we were SPEED FREAKS .. we lived in a lab that produced batches around 1/4lb - we did NOT sleep durring the process, and eventually the psychosis set in to the point we were armed to the teeth, some fully-automatic weappons - we had to protect ourselves from the DEA and some Ninjas that came into play later ..
The story everyone likes is this one - there are 3 people in the house, myself, Kenny, and Rich who is about 200 miles away, so of course there should ONLY be me and Kenny - we are both in the back bedroom, and we hear the front door open - IT'S THE DEA! RAID! Fuck it, we would get 25-to-life sentences, we better shoot our way out... so from within the back bedroom, Kenny shot 2 12-gauge rounds right through the fucking door/wall ... of course it wasn't the DEA, if was Riches girlfriend, and it was an ACT OF GOD that she was not hit...
As for the hotels - it worked like this.. we would cook, make some cash, do lots of speed, and then SOMEHOW it would be mentioned that someone had "inside info" and that a raid was comming - all bullshit of course, but when you're ALL suffering from psychosis it seems logical... so this kid named Christian has a "friend" who KNOWS that they are going to raid us tomorrow - what do we do? We leave the lab, grab our shit, and make a break for the car.. here is the funny part - Christian had "warned" us about the agents in the trees, so I took it upon myself to unload an entire Glock 17 into a tree.. must have missed the agent.. we then drove to some lavish hotel and lived there for a week, then returned and it started all over again...
My favorite was the time we were sure the DEA had the house bugged, so we didn't talk but rather wrote messages back and fourth to each other..
YES, all that is true - methamphetamine psychosis is a SCARY FUCKING THING ... but remember, we were SPEEDFREAKS!
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PAK CHOOIE UNF! Do not trust the pusher robot, he is malfunctioning, we are here to protect you..
"My favorite was the time we were sure the DEA had the house bugged, so we didn't talk but rather wrote messages back and fourth to each other.."
Hehe...I remember doing this at my gf's house. We all used to have fake conversations too...we would sit there carrying on with total bullshit conversations to "throw the DEA off" =)
Hehe...I remember doing this at my gf's house. We all used to have fake conversations too...we would sit there carrying on with total bullshit conversations to "throw the DEA off" =)
Beagle
Bluelighter
umm no offense but.........HAHAHAHAHAHA wrote messages? my god...HAHAHAHAHAHA. Shooting in public, that's kinda scary...Man I wonder if trying speed when I go to Hawaii is worth it...I don't wanna be shooting at people with 12 gauge's lol. By the way, any of you know how to sneak over shrooms to hawaii? do they even check you since its not out of the US?. PhreeKX i love your stories, you should make a web site about your self heh, your an intresting guy.
If we're not up to par as is, meth will only hurt, right? Drugs are a TEMPORARY solution for PERMANENT problem. Yes, we've all heard this before. Proof? Stop using drugs and you aren't "at par" anymore.
We're taught (maybe not directly) that the "good life" is one where we are "happy" all the time. Hence, instead of figuring out why the fuck you're depressed in the first place, and trying to do something about it, we reach to the drugs. Easy, quick happiness. Now we're smart/productive/HAPPY. But we never solve the problem, and we never grow as individuals. In psychoanalytically, we're not living in a state of "optimal frustration." We're saying--Fuck I'm not going to solve the problem, I'm going to ignore it for awhile.
What's sad is we live such that there are people that believe so little in the human race and a human's capabilities that some will say "I'm not up to par, and can never change myself to become what I want to be."
I believe the only positive thing drugs can do is help you realize why you started them in the first place, and why you need to now quit (even recreationally).
This hypocritically from an (avid) drug user (mainly pot and amphetamines, only "responsibly": opiates). I guess talk is cheap.
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"The fate of our times is characterized by rationalization and intellectualization and, above all, by the 'disenchantment of the world.'" -Weber
We're taught (maybe not directly) that the "good life" is one where we are "happy" all the time. Hence, instead of figuring out why the fuck you're depressed in the first place, and trying to do something about it, we reach to the drugs. Easy, quick happiness. Now we're smart/productive/HAPPY. But we never solve the problem, and we never grow as individuals. In psychoanalytically, we're not living in a state of "optimal frustration." We're saying--Fuck I'm not going to solve the problem, I'm going to ignore it for awhile.
What's sad is we live such that there are people that believe so little in the human race and a human's capabilities that some will say "I'm not up to par, and can never change myself to become what I want to be."
I believe the only positive thing drugs can do is help you realize why you started them in the first place, and why you need to now quit (even recreationally).
This hypocritically from an (avid) drug user (mainly pot and amphetamines, only "responsibly": opiates). I guess talk is cheap.
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"The fate of our times is characterized by rationalization and intellectualization and, above all, by the 'disenchantment of the world.'" -Weber
P4r4d0x
Bluelighter
Bonjour&hi&guttentag...
Does anyone of u guys know if it's possible to smoke normal speed? (and i'm not talking about that ice-stuf) I've got some high quality speed right here so i wondered what it would be like to smoke a little bit of it instead of snorting it.
Does anyone of u guys know if it's possible to smoke normal speed? (and i'm not talking about that ice-stuf) I've got some high quality speed right here so i wondered what it would be like to smoke a little bit of it instead of snorting it.
SpeedLimit55
Bluelighter
P4-
You can smoke Meth-Amphetamine. Is that what you have? There are different methods depending on what you've got...
You can smoke Meth-Amphetamine. Is that what you have? There are different methods depending on what you've got...