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Stimulants Meth, Pseudoephedrine to help?

noreason41

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Greetings,
I've just spent the last 26 hours on a meth binge, and i've basically gotten an hour or two's sleep in the past 36 hours.
I have work in a few hours, and it's a long 11 hour shift, which i'm basically wrecked for.
Calling in sick is not an option, so it's about minimizing damage at this point.

So my question, will taking 120mg Pseudo-ephedrine (or more?) every few hours help me while i'm at work.
Reason i'm asking is because Pseudo-ephedrine apparently does not impact the CNS, thus i'm wondering if it has any use as a Meth comedown aid?

Any other advice is welcome.

Regards
 
No, it'll just raise your blood pressure more & make you feel weirded out.

The best antidote for meth comedowns is no more stimulants!
 
No, it'll just raise your blood pressure more & make you feel weirded out.

The best antidote for meth comedowns is no more stimulants!

Thanks for the advice.

I appreciate and agree with you in this case, but in a way of 'the lesser of two evils', what would be the most effective way to get through 11 hours knowing that i can recover for the following 3 days.

Again, thank you.

Regards
 
You buy the ticket, take the ride... drink lots of water and eat something to give you energy. Coffee or tea in moderation if you need to. But otherwise there's no magical remedy for stimulant binge consequences.
 
You buy the ticket, take the ride... drink lots of water and eat something to give you energy. Coffee or tea in moderation if you need to. But otherwise there's no magical remedy for stimulant binge consequences.

Thank you again :)

I think in addition to my question what i'm really interested in is:

Does Pseudoephedrine have any effect to Meth, as for example Codeine would have to a Heroin binge?

(I only ask because i've read that Pseudo is quite poor at affecting the CNS) - And am wondering if anyone with experience could help

Regards
 
No. Stimulants and opioids have different effects. And to be perfectly honest, codeine on the tail end of a heroin binge isn't going to be effective unless taken in large doses (then it's the same as doing more heroin!).

Meth comedowns are a result of your brain's store of monoamines depleting and your blood sugar dropping. Taking pseudoephedrine, which mostly acts as a decongestant and raises blood pressure without having any notable stimulating effects of its own, will not make you feel better (even if you take high doses) because you simply don't have any dopamine or norepinephrine left to release and your gas tank is running on empty. Even if you took monster doses it would be no better than taking more meth.
 
Let us know how your shift went when you have a chance. From what I know 26 hours short for a meth binge so I'm sure you'll be fine.
 
[Let's play nice.] Think about this logically - what is the opposite of Meth? Downers!!! I'd never comedown from a stimulant binge that long without an amount of benzo's at least equal to 60 milligrams of Valium.
 
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There are no "opposites" in drugs... taking a bunch of benzos doesn't reverse the effects of meth burnout. Taking a shitload of benzos on a meth comedown might make you feel better but it will do nothing good for your on-the-job performance.
 
A small dose of quetiapine (25mg) may work to take the edge off things without any KO
 
Sekio, you're being a downer, dude!
We need answers and a quick fix for our 3 day meth bender!!
(Well, the collective "we"; I'm far too anxious to do uppers)
 
Greetings,
I've just spent the last 26 hours on a meth binge, and i've basically gotten an hour or two's sleep in the past 36 hours.
I have work in a few hours, and it's a long 11 hour shift, which i'm basically wrecked for.
Calling in sick is not an option, so it's about minimizing damage at this point.

So my question, will taking 120mg Pseudo-ephedrine (or more?) every few hours help me while i'm at work.
Reason i'm asking is because Pseudo-ephedrine apparently does not impact the CNS, thus i'm wondering if it has any use as a Meth comedown aid?

Any other advice is welcome.

Regards

Yes it will help you. Pesudo-ephedrine is the precursor for meth and it basically works like less effective meth.

Caffeine and/or nicotine will also help.

I would also recommend drinking a multi-vitamin drink and something high in protein and fat.
 
No, it'll just raise your blood pressure more & make you feel weirded out.

The best antidote for meth comedowns is no more stimulants!

Sleep + micro-nutrients + protein/fat is the answer.

However meth comedowns make you crave carbohydrates because your body needs the energy, although it is better to have say a chocolate bar and hamburger than just two chocolate bars, even though you won't want to eat a lot of protein, which is why I like protein shakes because it is easier to swallow.
 
No, pseudoephedrine in no way helps any aspect of methamphetamine abuse, it's in no way like the heroin : codeine example you listed. It will make things so much worse.
 
Okay guys look. I've tried all the OTC stimulants legal here in the US for comedowns (this was before I had regular access to benzo's). I tried (Pseudo)Ephedrine, Benzedrex (Levmetafetamine; AKA Levo-Methamphetamine) Propylhexedrine, Caffeine, Phenethylamine administered with Harmala Alkaloids (MAOI's) that I bought of eBay... Everything!.... to stop the horrid feeling of a comedown.

The worst - Caffeine. It did nothing to mitigate the feelings of the comedown (I'm not surprised. Especially since Caffeine's stimulant is caused by the blockade of hormones (Adenosine) that are meant to calm you down). It also has no direct effect on the Monoamine transmitters.

The rest - all the others gave me about an hour relief, or sudo-relief from a heavy Amphetamine comedown. After that hour... the comedown would come back... but it wouldn't just gradually come back and then return me to where I felt before. No no no no. The comedown would come back with a vengeance.

The only OTC things I can recommend for a comedown are Diphenhydramine (do not exceed 100mg's! and do not take more than 25mg's if you absolutely need to stay awake!), Dimenhydrinate (Same as Diphenhydramine), Umm.... if you aren't opioid tolerant at all. I would also recommend Loperamide. It's an antidiarrheal med that just happens to be a derivative of Fentanyl. Only problem is.. very little of the drug actually makes it into the CNS. But if you want to go this route - I recommend a ONE TIME DOSE (Loperamide can and will cause opioid withdrawal symptoms if used for a long period of time) of 170MG's.

If Codeine is UTC (under the counter) in your state, then that's what I would recommend.

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For those of you with access to drugs that pharmacies will only dispense with a prescription. Then I recommend getting downers. Downers (in my opinion) are the best remedy for comedowns. They take away all that 'Oh god... I feel like death...) feeling, uncramp your muscles, and lift you down much more gently than anything else I've tried.

Downers will turn a comedown that feels like hitting the pavement after jumping off The Empire State Building, into an accidental trip over a rock.
 
There are no "opposites" in drugs... taking a bunch of benzos doesn't reverse the effects of meth burnout. Taking a shitload of benzos on a meth comedown might make you feel better but it will do nothing good for your on-the-job performance.

Well, to be honest - There are drugs that are direct opposites of Meth. Haldol + an MAO Inducer would be a good example. But otherwise, I get your point. Although - you should know me by now Sekio lol. I know what I'm talking about - but I explain it in a way that 100% of other people can understand. (i.e Meth is an 'upper', so to stop a meth high, you would take a 'downer'). I only go in depth unless someone asks an in depth question - or someone point something like this out.
 
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