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Meth : bong water.

xXTheGrimOneXx said:
Wrong. Cilia remove mucus from the lungs and bronchial tubes. Alveoli are what handles gas exchange on your body.

Meth is extremely soluble in water. A gram is fully dissolved by 1ml of h20.

And if you use tap water in your bong. The dissolved solids, minerals, and water treatment chemicals will contaminate any meth you reclaim.

Use distilled or RO water if you want to reclaim something you can smoke.
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It’s a compounding equation of how much of the meth is trapped by the water. Temperature of the water, contact time, the amount of diffusion or percolation of the vapor through the water.
 
idk if I have mentioned this in this thread but I once had a girl from Detroit stopping through and she smoked meth out of a water bong. Despite me telling her it was water soluble.

Not being one to waste that water was IV'd (JP I drank it very cautiously as I am sensitive to amph).

Could not convince her she was losing any! Also couldn't convince her to filter her IV coke -- egh
 
Okay just for the purposes of harm reduction, i feel duty bound to chime in here...

I have had a lot of experience with this matter in the past.

Firstly, be very very careful indeed...

methamphetamine is one of the most water soluble substances out there so its actually deceptively easy to accumulate an ENORMOUSLY strong liquid very quickly indeed.

My advice would be, NEVER drink it... however it is also a total waste of product just to pour it down the drain imho...

Using gatorade or cola is foolish because you lose a massive amount of product into it with no hope of recovering it in a reliable, accurate, and safely measured way.

Use only water, preferably distilled water at that...

After ripping a few grams through, or until such a time as you run out of product and fancy harvesting some, then your best approach is to get yourself an large (clean!) ceramic plate and a large saucepan.

Fill the saucepan 1/3rd full with water and bring it to boil.... once its bubbling, turn the heat down very low so that its extremely gently simmering.

Then, put your ceramic plate on the top of the pan like a lid and pour whatever bong water you have managed to save evenly across the plate...

Wait very patiently until your product recrystallises on your plate, this will take a while, and its imperative you do it as slowly and get it as dry as humanly possible.... slower recrystallisation + dryer product = maximum yield...

Regards. .

Dj303
 
Also fyi... manage your expectations.... you can get high as fucking balls from bong water man, like deceptively so.... but.... smoking it tastes like shit compared to fresh shards.... snort it or booty bump it imho...
 
dj303 said:
Also fyi... manage your expectations.... you can get high as fucking balls from bong water man, like deceptively so.... but.... smoking it tastes like shit compared to fresh shards.... snort it or booty bump it imho...
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That’s also due to the ROA. It’s more biologically available orally and IV. Next is boofing.
 
xXTheGrimOneXx said:
That’s also due to the ROA. It’s more biologically available orally and IV. Next is boofing.
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Aye if course.... pleeeeaaase dont iv dirty bong water though anyone!!
I will accept i havent been an angel in life, but if you must iv, keep it all as professional and clean as humanly possible my dear bluelighters 🙏🙏🙏🙏

honestly, the first time i ever resorted to bong water, i took a little 3ml oral syringe and with a cheeky wink, walloped a test dose up my back alley... honestly... i cannot describe how MASSIVELY unprepared i was for how strong it was going to be! 🤣

I was a heavy user at that point too, a fair amount had gone through the water i suppose.. cant remember exactly but it was somewhere between 3 to 7g bubbled through about 25 ml of water....

Even 3/5ml of that took my fucking head clean off man.... absolute carnage...

Did that on a friday after work and was still awake trying to swallow down a sunday roast lunch meeting my future mother in law!! 🫣🫣🫣

God i dont miss those days i must say.

Be careful folks... always best to recrystallise so you don't end up taking some reckless amount of completely unknown strength product
 
tweakerguy said:
Alcohols are gonna give you polar opposite (🤭) results to what solvents such as acetone would. Ethanol/Alcohol in any form being polar, mean the HCI salt is gonna be more soluble than it would be in water.

Sorry.. t'was the drugs, not me.
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Thats why it’s important to dry them
To the point of being anhydrous.
 
simstim said:
I think you misunderstood me. I'm not saying to add alcohol to the water solution. Only to redissolve the crystals so that they could be redried and recrystallized with a solvent other than water so that they will hopefully contain less water (the minute traces of water in the crystals will evaporate with the solvent).

I would probably prefer methanol myself. I recrystallized some meth out of water once with a double boiler and it did not form shard-like structures. I recrystallized it again out of 99.9% methanol (heet) and it did.

Acetone should give similar results. They are both polar, but polar has nothing to do with what I am proposing. You should get the same results from xylene if you have it on hand (non-polar). Methanol is much cheaper than xylene and easy to get.

I am simply suggesting that a second recrystallization out of another solvent is necessary in order to get the crystals to a more complete dryness. The hcl salt is highly hygrophobic (stores water).
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It’s solubility and saturation that is in the alcohol. The acetone does have very much solubility with meth. So wash powder, dry completely, then dissolve in hot mefhanol, creat a supersaturated solution. Then allow crystals to form from the change in solubility of methanol at higher temps.

Don’t evaporate all the methanol either. Pour off the last little bit.

Allow the crystals to fully dry. Then rinse again with anhydrous acetone.

The way crystals form the impurities will be on the outside not mixed through.
 
I will say though.....

If you dont have knowledge/access to the chemicals/knowledge necessary to produce a decent shard though that doesn't matter imho....

harvesting bong water was always a bit of a last ditch/bonus/get the job done type vibe for me really.... as long as you evaporate slowly and dry extremely well you can still absolutely get ripped off it....

Always try to use a very small amount of water in you hubbly bubbly and leave it as long as possible before harvest for best results though 😉
 
dj303 said:
If you dont have access to the chemicals required for a decent yield/crystalline shard that doesn't matter though people imho....

harvesting bong water was always a bit of a last ditch/bonus/get the job done type vibe for me really.... as long as you evaporate slowly and dry extremely well you can still absolutely get ripped off it....

Always try to use a very small amount of water in you hubbly bubbly and leave it as long as possible before harvest for best results though 😉
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That doesn’t matter. The cuts are soluble in water as well. Still be absorbed in then water used.

It’s easy to dry acetone and methanol.

Bake magnesium sulfate (Epsom salt,unscented) at 375F for 2-3 hours. Powder and add to solvents until it stays suspended.

Cold crash the acetone. Plus cold acetone is less soluble to your meth.

Dry.

Then recrystallize by dissolving the washed powder in hot methanol. Being hot increases its solubility. Filter off anything that doesn’t dissolve as it is not meth.

Cool the super saturated solution to cause the meth to crash out as the amount of methane can dissolve drops.

Crystals form.

If ya dry it out and don’t wash and purify. You’re using the same shit cuts.
 
xXTheGrimOneXx said:
That doesn’t matter. The cuts are soluble in water as well. Still be absorbed in then water used.

It’s easy to dry acetone and methanol.

Bake magnesium sulfate (Epsom salt,unscented) at 375F for 2-3 hours. Powder and add to solvents until it stays suspended.

Cold crash the acetone. Plus cold acetone is less soluble to your meth.

Dry.

Then recrystallize by dissolving the washed powder in hot methanol. Being hot increases its solubility. Filter off anything that doesn’t dissolve as it is not meth.

Cool the super saturated solution to cause the meth to crash out as the amount of methane can dissolve drops.

Crystals form.

If ya dry it out and don’t wash and purify. You’re using the same shit cuts.
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*respectfully doffs cap*....

GrimOne has knowledge beyond mine....

anyway whatever method you choose my darlings, just remember to go steady and look after yourselves and one another.....

You can always add but you cant take away..

Much love
 
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