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Phenethylamines Mescaline Sulphate & Peyote first time

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I will be trying some dried peyote powder, as well as pure synthesized mescaline soon. I will have what I think is at least 2 doses of each, but I am not sure where to start with it.

I have not done mescaline before, but phenethylamines are my favorite psychedelics, so obviously I'm extremely excited. Which should I do first, the extract or the full peyote experience?

I'm leaning toward trying the peyote first, to get the full alkaloid experience as the good Lord intended. I am pretty experienced with all types of phenethylamines, 25x, 2cx, DOx, MAL, AL, various others. But the thing is, I want the full experience for my first time doing it for sure, I do not want an underwhelming experience tbh.

What is the best way to prepare the peyote powder? Is 10-20gs enough for a solid trip or is that more of a light dose? Also consider that I respond to phens very well and don't have any nausea issues, but I imagine the peyote may be more prone to nausea.

And yeah the mescaline should be easy enough, weigh it out, eat it. I've heard some different things regarding the dose, erowid lists common as 200-400mg, but ive heard people say thats a more light dose and I should shoot closer to 500mg since I have plenty of experience.

Also how long should I expect it to last? Says 8-14 hours... thats so broad and arbitrary lol, but it shouldn't last as long as say DOC right? More the length of an LSD trip?

Sorry its kind of a lot of broad questions. I will be doing a lot more reading, but yeah im going into this with as much care and respect as it deserves. For me this has been a long time coming and I want to use it as therapeutically and spiritually as I can.

If you've done either/or mescaline or peyote, or definitely if you've done both, please let me know what you think of all that id appreciate it!
 
IME the mescaline family works quite well with refills, with a bit less of a tolerance build-up than most psychedelics. So if you aim a bit too low, taking another dose after say 3-4 hours may not be a total waste. Don't take my word for it, see what others think overall. This is just a pointer.
 
I don't have experience with natural mescaline, only mescaline HCl ingested pre-dissolved in water by oral consumption. I feel the effects starting quicker than 2C-B even, a very gradual but noticeable climb starting from 20 - 30 min in. I'm not sure if mescaline has the reputation for quicking so hit due to most oftenly be found as cactus powder, with only few people actually extracting it. But sure it takes a while to plateau. My first dose were 330 mg mescaline HCl, which were in intensity equal to about 25 mg 2C-B HCl, but easier to handle despite being deeper and more magic.
 
Awesome name OP! You lucky you get to try this sacred peyote out and the synth .. fucks yeah!! Have fun bro!
 
MedicinalUser247 said:
Just remember it takes 3 hours to kick in so don't end up taking too much because you think it's not working.
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Most of the time when I take cactus it hits in 60-90 minutes. By 3 hours I am full blown tripping. But for sure important to wait that long without taking more. But I feel it pretty quick. Lasts around 12-14 hours for me. But it is gentle. There are moments when I feel totally sober and then next moment I feel totally tripping in a very peaceful way that does seem magical.

Mescaline/cactus is the only long trip I can still do these days due to being so gentle yet strong. My days of trying a DOx are gone. They came out too late for me. Although I would love to hear anyone over 60 that still will take a DOx. :)
 
Are you sure its mescaline? A lot of the "pure mescaline" advertised has never been near mescaline. The last "mescaline" I got lasted about 2 hours and was awful.
 
Ismene2 said:
Are you sure its mescaline? A lot of the "pure mescaline" advertised has never been near mescaline. The last "mescaline" I got lasted about 2 hours and was awful.
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Yeah, I mean the guy I'm getting it from is more of a professional/connoisseur type, not just some wook selling nitrous balloons in the parking lot of a festival lol.

I assume there's a specific reagent test one would use to test it?

I think I'm just gonna rock with the sulphate, and take 500mgs, going to get it sorted tomorrow. I was gonna get a few different things, but will go with some gel tabs instead of the peyote, might snag some shrooms too, looks like the peyote I can't really get in large enough quantity to get the full experience, so fugg it... my man's got a solid lineup of things so I should be well stocked... and will likely save the mescaline for a special time.
 
The peyote powder might be bunk - is he saying he's taken it from the wild? If he's grown it himself you need old peyote - 10 years plus.

I dont think 20 grams is even threshold - indians used to eat 30-40 dried peyote cacti to trip - thats 30 of the entire cacti.
 
distAnTKarmA said:
I will be trying some dried peyote powder, as well as pure synthesized mescaline soon. I will have what I think is at least 2 doses of each, but I am not sure where to start with it.

I have not done mescaline before, but phenethylamines are my favorite psychedelics, so obviously I'm extremely excited. Which should I do first, the extract or the full peyote experience?

I'm leaning toward trying the peyote first, to get the full alkaloid experience as the good Lord intended. I am pretty experienced with all types of phenethylamines, 25x, 2cx, DOx, MAL, AL, various others. But the thing is, I want the full experience for my first time doing it for sure, I do not want an underwhelming experience tbh.

What is the best way to prepare the peyote powder? Is 10-20gs enough for a solid trip or is that more of a light dose? Also consider that I respond to phens very well and don't have any nausea issues, but I imagine the peyote may be more prone to nausea.

And yeah the mescaline should be easy enough, weigh it out, eat it. I've heard some different things regarding the dose, erowid lists common as 200-400mg, but ive heard people say thats a more light dose and I should shoot closer to 500mg since I have plenty of experience.

Also how long should I expect it to last? Says 8-14 hours... thats so broad and arbitrary lol, but it shouldn't last as long as say DOC right? More the length of an LSD trip?

Sorry its kind of a lot of broad questions. I will be doing a lot more reading, but yeah im going into this with as much care and respect as it deserves. For me this has been a long time coming and I want to use it as therapeutically and spiritually as I can.

If you've done either/or mescaline or peyote, or definitely if you've done both, please let me know what you think of all that id appreciate it!
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Heh. wooks on lot selling buttons. A lot of people don't realize how available mescaline is in the USA in 2024.

10-20g of powder IMO is not a solid trip and the powder itself can be highly variable. So we really can't say what a proper dose is.

As far as the mescaline sulfate. Psh please don't underestimate it. Recently took 570mg and it was overkill for sure. I think my next dabble will be around the 380-420mg area.

I find mescaline while pretty impotent, can become very intense and even uncomfortable as you push dose. It has a sweet spot. 300 is not enough and 600 is more then necessary.

At least for me.
 
I've used mescaline twice, one time it took 18 grams of dry peyote for me to feel it, another time it was (~300mg iirc?) of acetate extracted from San Pedro. The San Pedro trip was dramatically more potent, and I also separately extracted/ate the other alkaloids from the San Pedro as well for that one. They felt like two totally different drugs (SP extract vs peyote powder in gel caps), except both were empathogenic and took 4 hours or so to come up. I never experienced any nausea from either, but I'm also the type to eat mushrooms straight and drink ayahuasca like water without nausea issues.

I took the peyote (they weren't rooting in their new substrate, so I figured I'd eat them instead of just let them rot), it was 192g wet (18g dried) and while it was predominantly williamsii, there were also some fricii, alberto-vojtechii, and diffusas in the mix. I dehydrated, powderized, capped and dosed them, did my nails in a new color, then went and walked my roommate and boyfriend home from a movie bc it was late at night and they didn't like being in the area we lived in without having somebody armed alongside them, so I offered to be the on-foot transportation security for the night.

Upon getting home, everybody did their usual, a few lines of kanna 400x extract, dabs, ephedrine, whatever people were using that night. I did a few dabs and passed right the fuck out, frankly. Upon awaking T+4:00 after dosing, I was beyond terrified for 2-3 seconds as my entire reality was a bubbling, oozing sort of construction of small gemstones, as if a bible existed where a creationist god had access to only one of those as-seen-on-TV "bejewled" machines, yet had continued to create the world nonetheless somehow. As I pieced together that what I was looking at was the server rack beside my bed, I turned around and saw my boyfriend, asleep, totally unaware that he'd been transformed into a pile of gemstones.

What woke me up was an intense need to piss, so I did that, meditated for a while, then went back to sleep for a bit and woke up essentially sober.

The SP extract led to a much more LSD-like, "feeling myself loop through time" sort of deal where I was watching the blood vessels in my arms rewrite themselves into messages from my ancestors and shit. A very different vibe, but both trips were quite transformative and were solid growth experiences.
 
It's a long trip even with the synthetic stuff (I've never tried cactus). Full 12 hours and then still feeling pretty altered the next day.

I nearly hurled the first time I took it so since then I've staggered my dose; if I want to take 600mg I'll take 4 150mg doses at 20 minute intervals. Haven't experienced nausea since.

Beautiful drug I really need to explore it more. I've taken it four times I think not counting microdoses, twice on its own and twice mixed with LSD.
distAnTKarmA said:
I assume there's a specific reagent test one would use to test it?
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It turns orange with Marquis, I believe.
 
Shinji Ikari said:
It's a long trip even with the synthetic stuff (I've never tried cactus). Full 12 hours and then still feeling pretty altered the next day.
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Not only this, but it's easy to forget you're on it. My first mesc trip (the aforementioned San Pedro extract) was dosed ~7PM, and 12ish hours later I got T-boned because I thought I was sober enough to drive.
 
distAnTKarmA said:
What is Kanna like?
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Ranges a ton batch to batch, for some people the 100-400x extract was like yohimbine, MDMA, the sharpness of tetrahydroharmine and a light psychedelic value that led to a lot of sweating and animalistic sex. For others, there was absolutely zero effect (but they were on antipsychotics/antidepressants that can dull serotonergic activity). For me, it's like weird plant molly if it's a good batch and it's adequately concentrated. Vaporized it's something else too, endless giggles and shit. Orally you need a LOT, like half a gram of 100x extract from a solid batch, but it's like if molly felt like a natural emotional phenomenon, If you're curious about either specific experiences I can detail, or specific RoAs, or specific crosses, feel free to specify which of the three (or two or all three even!) and I'll write it up for you in another thread, to keep this one on topic if you'd like.
 
I actually had my first mescaline experience this week funnily enough…
I took 300mg of the sulfate salt and had a pretty decent time, minimal nausea and nice visuals.
Iv grown mescaline containing cacti my entire adult life but I never really bothered harvesting and trying it as I fell in love with the plants. So I synthesised some and yeah I’m glad to be honest.
In terms of the experience, I would say if you have had a psychedelic experience like lsd or another long acting psychedelic you already know how to plan…if not read trip reports ha
Oh and enjoy!
 
Oh and yeah, stagger the dose or dissolve in a drink and drink it over the course of half an hour or so.
Not only did it help the nausea, it meant that it felt like it kicked in pretty quick after
 
I did the Mescaline sulphate Friday night. I just took all of the half gram, over several doses.

I don't know really what to say about it, other than that it was the most important psychedelic experience of my life up til now.

I struggle greatly with expressing emotions, and mescaline gave me the ability to actually cry and feel some things that I had been holding onto for a very long time regarding my family. It was an extremely cathartic release that I needed to move on from some things.

I made a dose tracker for that whole day, I would like to make something of a report about it one day, as I feel like I've grown after doing it a lot. I also took quite a bit of 4acodmt throughout, and yeah, it was every bit as special as I was expecting.
 
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