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Mescaline causing immediate opiate withdrawal?

Wow, she's probably sick from the shitload of drugs you gave her, and the stimulation caused feelings like withdrawal. Just because you like this combo doesn't mean some homeless girl will react positive to YOUR high doses. You could trigger serotonin syndrome with that combo at a high enough dose in someone. That's deadly.

So much for indigo powers.

Great birthday present.
 
It may be that all of the adrenaline that it surging around her body from the combination of MDMA and Mescaline is speeding up the withdrawal process.

Hasn`t she get any more opiates? If she has i strongly recommend her to take some,she should be ok combining the psychedelics with the opiates as her body is used to the opiate and is obviously craving it.

I wouldn`t think that Mescaline would cause withdrawal in itself.

Kind of a bad birthday for her.And next time tell her to plug her perocets,don`t IV them,plugging works just as good as mainlining,well almost.
 
The mescaline was likely (trying to) help her overcome her addiction. The bit excessive MDMA dose probably complicated things.
Really doubt it was "actual" withdrawal - more like psychic withdrawal.

Please try and be there for her.
 
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with 3 weeks clean there wouldn't be withdrawal... it was just due to the insane amount of chemicals her body wasn't used to, and she associated that lousy stimulation with the feeling of withdrawal.
 
I don't think the experience was opiate withdrawal, the effect is similar, I mean all the same symptoms... I think what they experienced is a bad trip from mescaline, which can happen, surprised more people don't mention how bad mescaline can be when it turns on you... I've had one myself from just too much mescaline alone but friends have had them from combining large amounts of methylone with just 200mg of mescaline... it's a horrible horrible experience and I don't wish it upon anyone, your skin crawls, you feel all emotions all at once, time slows to a crawl, and you cant get comfortable in any shape or form, I don't even want to think about it... but I think there are 2 factors involved, one is set and setting which is often underestimated with mescaline, it is not necessarily the same set/setting as other drugs, 1 thing I've learned is that it is a terrible drug to do on your own, for me that precipitates a hyper loneliness feeling... and as others have mentioned it gets potentiated by many other phenys.... when it goes south, it really goes south... but normally very nice, I like to mix with mushrooms for an altered experience, not too dissimilar to AMT.

I will agree with others though that the negative experience can often be a positive one, the bad trip seemed to really make me re-evaluate, it made me question the value of things and also cured a restless leg that I'd had since childhood. I was thankful to have gotten out of it.
 
I`ve been an opiate addict,unless i was choosing to use Mescaline to overcome an addiction,the last thing i would want is Mescaline at the start of my withdrawals.

I chose to overcome my addiction with will power alone and the reality i was presented with,not by using hallucinogens.Maybe using Mescaline later down the line when physical addiction has passed as an aid for introspection as to the causes and reasons of the addiction...Yes.
 
If anything I'd say it was just the combo and not related to opiates at all, I know a lot of people who get sick from large doses of MDMA, it's possible she didn't take quite enough to make her sick, but the moment you added Mescaline to the mix.. bang..

Not that it's a bad thing, purging can be good, just keep her happy and calm while she does and change her environment around after, put on some nice music, get talking to her etc afterwards, that way she won't let the bad start hang with her throughout the whole trip.

Hope it all goes well.
 
Your interpretation of events is physiologically impossible. She can't be in withdrawal if she'd been abstinent from 3 weeks, and mescaline does not and cannot precipiate physiological withdrawal. Insofar as the psychedelics or MDMA have anything to do with it, it's just in her head.

She is having a bad reaction to the APAP, an excessive amount of MDMA, and tripping out besides.

And you should really think about who you are giving drugs to and in what context you are giving drugs to people, or stuff like this happens :p
 
Actually I found out the truth yesterday. She knew she was going to go into withdrawal and actually the MDMA and mescaline prolonged the duration BEFORE it happened...

So she finally admitted to me yesterday that she has been using opiates for about 5 years off and on but in the last three months she has started to bang about a 1/4g of heroin a day. Since she didn't have any heroin around, she did the percs and pressed her cottons just to get a fix so she wouldn't be sick all day but she fully expected to be sick as shit.

We had an intervention at her aunt's house and she agreed to go to detox willingly for three days and then head into the Stepping Stones program we have here in Denver. She's so far gone on the addiction that she asked me to take her to a friend's house that she "knew she could stay with" that was a 45 minute drive and when we get there, she says she isn't sure if she can stay or not and to wait. Almost an hour later she comes out with this big story that the landlady heard she was hustling and prostituting out there so she couldn't stay there anymore. I asked her if she used - she said no. I grabbed her chin and turned her towards me. Pupils thin as needles.

Yeah so we had an intervention. Its so bad that she prostituted 3 times in the last 2 months to get enough money for heroin and she has been hustling guys for money as well.

So there you have it.

As for the doses, this girl has a really high MDMA tolerance. Usually 250 to feel anything...

And mescaline greatly potentiates any other phen OR tryptamine because it ties up MAO.
 
Withdraw can happen within 30 min to an addict that has not had there fix. I think it was just a timing issue. Sometime in between taking those other drugs her body had plenty of time to start withdrawl symptoms. I also have never tripped while withdrawing. I would imagine it totally ruining any trip i could possible take. I suggest getting her off of the addictive drugs.
 
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