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alot of people are not happy about the banning of mephedrone in the uk but hopfully when it is banned we will see the return of quality mdma, personally i would much preferr taking mdma as we know its effect and what way is safest to take it, whereas mephedrone has practically no research on it effects on the human body
 
I think MDMA > mephedrone.

mephedrone seems to be much more toxic than mdma, also we don't know what the long-term effects of mephdrone use are. mdma has shown to be relatively safe.
 
MDMA is a million times better than mephedrone.

I had just finished a 2.7g baggie of mephedrone, snorting, drinking, encapsulating every day for 3 days until it was gone.

Never even came close to MDMA's feeling.

Plus, you don't feel like your body hates you more than you could imagine when you take it.

Hope to see more MDMA going around here in Canada..
 
^^ Canada is the number 1 producer of MDMA atm i read somewhere.. it used to be in holland, but they cracked down hard on the precursors for making MDMA making it very rare in Europe... i don't think the mephedrone ban willl lead to a higher availability of MDMA...

but yeah MDMA kicks mephedrones ass... BIG TIME
 
There is a rising of MDMA use in Italy atm. It is a total suprise to me ! Reports back from friends/ pictures of a rave where literally everyone was rolling ! Not sure who cracked open the market there lol but it is just in....
 
You have no idea how much the UK sucks right now, people who i've known 4+ years and bought countless quality pills from, are now turning round and trying to sell me gam bags of mephedrone as MDMA, thank god fo testing kits. srsly
 
I'm sorry for you UK folks. On the other hand, the MDMA situation in North America seems to be improving (possibly due to this whole Canada thing) bit by bit. Let's hope it keeps getting better.
 
phatass said:
^^ Canada is the number 1 producer of MDMA atm i read somewhere.. it used to be in holland, but they cracked down hard on the precursors for making MDMA making it very rare in Europe... i don't think the mephedrone ban willl lead to a higher availability of MDMA...

but yeah MDMA kicks mephedrones ass... BIG TIME
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Lucky I live in canada :)
 
View of both chemicals in my eyes!
Pros of Mephedrone:
1.1 of the most intense highs iv felt, very simmilar to mdma but a little more smooth, i would actually go as far as saying it was better.
2.The eye wiggles are awesome!
3.Pretty cheap at the moment
4.lots of energy to dance with
5.i dont look cracked out on mephedrone
6.i can talk to my parents only an hour after main effects have worn off and they wouldn't know a thing
7. Smoother come up than mdma
8. chatting becomes easier than walking
9. Repeated doses till about the 5th have the same effect (just under about 7.5 hours worth of good times) after this you are just stimulated.
10. I get no comedowns after use

Cons of mephedrone:
1. its impossible to sleep before a least 8 or so hours after taking it
2. Heart rate is abnormally high (for me 140's!)
3. Initial high lasts for about 30-40 mins but still feel good till about 1.5-2 hours after come up
4. Heart feels like its about to jump out of your chest at about t+8-9
5. following the short lived high you repeatedly want to take more to feel that insane high.
6. the sleep you do get is usually broken and disturbed leaving you tired the next day
7. (i dont get comedowns with it but iv heard of nasty comedowns on it)
8. lots of deaths have been reported with this drug(not directly but poly drug use doesn't seem to be safe)
9. very little research on this chem
10. Mild gurn, gurn increases as you take more
11. Very much aware of your surroundings and clear headed

Pros of MDxx:
1. Amazingly good high
2. more in touch with your mind and body than with mephedrone
3. when you do get eye wiggles it is awesome
4. seems to give the crowed a better vibe
5. Feel like your in another dimension for allot longer! (4-5 hours)
6. Sleep is not an issue with clean mdma
7. i get no comedown after use
8. smaller doses can make you more aware of what is around you/clear headed

cons of MDxx:
1. Very expensive at the moment
2. Only so much serotonin so after about 4-5 hours of rolling thats it.
3. can produce awkward moments when you snap back into reality. (from experience)
4. Massive gurns all round
5. pupils are huge for the next 12 hours
6. high doses tend to floor me when i want to dance
7. (i dont get comedowns but some get massive comedowns)
8. large doses can produce unwanted amnesia, realising your actually hugging a pole or speaking to a non existing person :P
9. makes me look spaced out and out of it (eyes almost pop outa my head, jaw drops in astonishment)

Think il leave it there for now if you think iv missed anything please let me know, Iv tried to be as non bias as possible and i believe that there is a time and a place for both of them but i think i would generally prefer MDxx mainly for the sleep, research and safety of it and the length of the roll

Hope this is useful!

GileS
 
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^ I Bet a hundred notes this guys never had proper mdma. mephedrone better...pffft
 
Thanks for the great little write-up Giles. :) As far as the intensity of the high, I'm not surprised that mephedrone would be competitive with MDMA -- anything that releases more dopamine is going to have a more euphoric and intense high. Now, the more subjective effects of MDMA (being "loved-up", feeling at peace) probably dwarf mephedrone's, I'm guessing.

This is a very interesting thread. I live in the US so I haven't seen this mass replacement of MDMA, but I imagine that it's around the corner. :\
 
For a fairly newbie who has had 18 rolls with MDMA since 2008..mephedrone ..I get scared just imagining it. I think to myself.. I only want MDMA...no substitute.
 
RGB said:
Thanks for the great little write-up Giles. :) As far as the intensity of the high, I'm not surprised that mephedrone would be competitive with MDMA -- anything that releases more dopamine is going to have a more euphoric and intense high. Now, the more subjective effects of MDMA (being "loved-up", feeling at peace) probably dwarf mephedrone's, I'm guessing.

This is a very interesting thread. I live in the US so I haven't seen this mass replacement of MDMA, but I imagine that it's around the corner. :\
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thats because you're in california. look on pill reports at the quality differences between east coast and west coast pills. its insane. its like pipes don't even exist out there anymore. unfortunately, piperazines are still the adulterant of choice in the east. i think i'd rather take a meph bomb than a pipe bomb if i was getting something that wasn't mdma.
 
For anyone who really likes mephedrone I'd be interested to know if you've tried cocaine before as I hear that's what it closely mimics.
 
cutlery69 said:
For anyone who really likes mephedrone I'd be interested to know if you've tried cocaine before as I hear that's what it closely mimics.
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It's not like remotely like good cocaine for me. Maybe shite cut/adulterated cocaine. Mephedrone snorted just doesn't have that same inital rush of euphoria.
 
key con of mephedrone: highly dangerous in comparison to other less than benign stimulants (let alone entactogens). I think that we might have a trump card.

However, a moderate oral dose indeed brings all the MDMA 'grace' and 'vivaciousness' (in my brain), but with adrenergic overload. I can see its strong draw.

Now, it's my understanding that we Yanks get all these piperazine combo pills 'cause BZP and TMFPP remain unscheduled in Canada. And then meth-adulterated pills, 'cause...this is the US, and meth proliferates. I don't see why, however, we haven't seen much mephedrone on the street here. I don't see why the US would be a particularly good setting to synthesize MDMA, and I'm skeptical of some flood of Canadian exports.

ebola
 
Newbierock said:
^ I Bet a hundred notes this guys never had proper mdma. mephedrone better...pffft
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iv had my fair share of MDMA, both crystal and pills and iv noticed incredible differences between batches to which i would have to say no, i most likely havnt had the best mdma around but iv had some damn good stuff, also as i noted after that, my personal preference is mdma... i was just saying that the initial 15-30 mins on mephedrone is insane! For example: I was in the company of a mate of myn taking it for the 1st time who has been doing mdma on an off for about 6 years now and he sed that he has not felt this good off a drug in a looong time, only real issue i have with it is the pounding heart rate from 7-24 hours after (depending on doses) really worries me and cant usually get to sleep during this period whereas on mdma i can sleep happily and wake up fresh as a daisy.
 
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