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Mephedrone Megathread: Five heart attacks later...

Shmitz

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Hello peeps,

Im a little concerned about myself. I had about 1g of drone on Friday night. Absolutely awesome high, very much like MDMA but not as 4th dimensional so to speak.

Anyways, the trouble started on Sat, I only managed three hours sleep across the whole day after 10mg of Valium and finally got some rest about 3am Sunday morning. Felt a little better on Sunday but cant seem to shake the following symptoms:

Visible focusing...everything seems blurry on and off, like iv'e just woken up and have hazy eyes (I usually have perfect vision.)

0% motivation - even after 2 10 hour sleeps, I just feel so tired and can’t seem to focus on anything, generally feeling spaced out.

Mild stimulation in arms, legs and head, like the beginnings of a pill come up.

Mild jaw tension/teeth chattering

Dizziness

Depression/ paranoia - only mild but enough to know im not my usual self.

I usually expect some of these symptoms on a comedown but they don’t seem to be fading whatsoever and today (Monday) I feel like im actually on something as apposed to recovering from a weekend session. It’s kind of freaking me out because this in my opinion doesn’t seem normal.

I definitely won’t be taking this stuff again and wouldn’t advise anyone else to do so either.

Has anyone had this problem after taking drone?? Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks
 
Hi, Shmitz. Welcome to EADD and BL :)

The side-effects you report are pretty common but seem to fade with time (and abstinence) for most. Do a search for "mephedrone" and "toxicity" and you'll find many similar stories to your own. There's an excellent thread in Advanced Drug Discussion on the problems associated with its use.

Of course not everyone gets these symptoms - certainly not at first - but if you choose to use the stuff then I'd recommend doing a bit of research first and keeping any use in strict moderation. General consensus is no more than 500mg in a session and try to keep it to once a month if possible. As it's an unresearched compound there's little in the way of solid, factual information on either the short or longterm effects, sadly :\
 
^We'll find out eventually, the easy or hard way. Surely they'll do proper testing on it once its illegal?

This bomb should wipe me off the face of the planet :)

I also noticed lack of mptivation for a long time after meph binges whoever mentioned that :)
 
There has only been one study with mephedrone in it that I have ever seen, and that was just about urine testing for mephedrone, methylone and buytlone. Wish a few more people did some real research.
 
I heard of a few tests going on, never heard the results or anything though

Also, drinking meph in orange juice is a great way, beats bombing hits you faster and doesent taste bad :), also gives your nose a break
 
^ Yeap, i noticed that a while ago too! I think its just a matter of time untill it is banned.. Not that i'll be bothered these days much. Without meph maybe more people will be looking for MDMA :)

TBH i'd far rather some good quality sulphate to meph anyday, the high is far better if you get proper speed and not the 5% crap people are bombing half g's with. It also has a peak which actually lasts and less of these strange side effects that are becoming more and more associated with 4-mmc.
 
Whoops, I seem to have written an essay. Might be some useful/helpful info towards the top, the rest is just about my comedown experience. I never really wrote about it on here -- felt like I couldn't deal with the abuse I'd get for taking so much. Now I've learned that I can just get Mugabe to post "I bought 1g of meph" below my post and you'll all fixate on him. And his cock. <3=D

Visible focusing...everything seems blurry on and off, like iv'e just woken up and have hazy eyes (I usually have perfect vision.)

0% motivation - even after 2 10 hour sleeps, I just feel so tired and can’t seem to focus on anything, generally feeling spaced out.

Mild stimulation in arms, legs and head, like the beginnings of a pill come up.

Mild jaw tension/teeth chattering

Dizziness

Depression/ paranoia - only mild but enough to know im not my usual self.

I usually expect some of these symptoms on a comedown but they don’t seem to be fading whatsoever and today (Monday) I feel like im actually on something as apposed to recovering from a weekend session. It’s kind of freaking me out because this in my opinion doesn’t seem normal.

I definitely won’t be taking this stuff again and wouldn’t advise anyone else to do so either.

Has anyone had this problem after taking drone?? Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

You just perfectly described my comedowns. I thought that they were more to do with sleep deprivation and lack of food -- but you shouldn't have that after 1 night, so I guess it is the meph after all.

It will get better. Honestly. The fear that I'd feel like that forever was what completely cracked me up.

I've been through it twice now, I do have some (slightly odd!!) things that helped me. Will put them here - the rest of the post is a self pitying ramble about how crap it was the first time.

Some of these might be complete bollocks, but they made me feel better.

- Be certain that it will get better. It will.
- If you possibly can, take the next week off work/college/whatever and sleep sleep sleep
- Eat. Constantly. Steer clear of big meals, they'll bite you with complete narcolepsy about half an hour later. Bananas are nice. So are caramelised cashews. And pistachio nuts. And lots and lots of chocolate. Cheesy poofs. I guess just try a bar of choc and see if it gives temporary relief.
- If you can get your hands on some benzos, they don't help with the symptoms at all but do stop the "fuuuuuuuuuck I can't cooooope!!!" moments
- Music. Odd one. I couldn't concentrate on anything at all normally - but if I put in headphones and some crappy pop, for some reason I was able to concentrate on work pretty much normally, for short (~1 hour) periods of time
- Exercise.... if you're into it, it'll probably help. I'm not -- but a brisk walk or a **mini** jog (just enough to get my heartrate up) helped
- GBL is quite nice, took away the dizziness and brain zaps... and made me not give a fuck about not being able to concentrate
- My un-harm-reduction tip: This might not work for everyone, but works for me. If you absolutely have to concentrate the next day, take some GBL the night before... recreational level doses. Get about 4-5 hours sleep. Drink 5 cups of coffee and eat a load of Pro Plus. For me, caffeine kept the sleepiness away, and the G-hangover gave me a single minded focus and stopped my mind from flitting constantly from one thing to another. Too much sleep meant the caffeine made me a sketchy mess, so I guess maybe don't start by eating half a box of Pro Plus =D
- Powerade and Lucazade are nice.
- Asprin seemed to help a bit
- If you're feeling/being sick, try an OTC med for it. Someone in ADD swears by Stugeron (cinnarizine) -- tell the pharmacist you want something for motion sickness. It didn't help me and gave me horrible cotton mouth. I found ginger really helped though.

Oh, and a bonus tip:
- Don't take acid for the first time when feeling like this

Eh, I'm academically smart.... something had to lose out, and I guess all common sense (well, sense generally) didn't make the cut.

The first time I had a comedown like this, it lasted for 11 days. I DESERVED IT, I'd been on the meph nearly every day for about 3 weeks.... with very little sleep or food. I hope that yours will be shorter...
By far the worst was around about day 10. I'd been sleeping often more than 12 hours every night.... an that day I took the day off sick from work because I was just too exhausted, and couldn't face another day of running off to the loos to be sick. I went back to sleep for another 6 hours... then woke up to find that I still felt every bit as exhausted, but I couldn't sleep any more!

I felt like such a complete failure.... a day off sick because I was feeling tired, 18 hours of sleep and still so exhausted I could do nothing but lie in a heap. I could think of no explanation -- "addiction" didn't seem to fit as I had no craving for meph. I thought that it might never ever get any better -- that my options were to either accept life as an addict and take it every day.... or eventually lose my job, lose my home, go live with my parents and exist in a state of exhaustion and stupidity forever.
I thought about killing myself. I thought about how I'd do it, and the people I'd leave behind. I cried for hours out of sheer misery and desperation, at the feeling that I had absolutely no options.

I talked to Evad on MSN, a lot that afternoon... he happened to be online at the wrong time (or the right time, from my perspective). That conversation at least got me away from the "I have failed at life because I am miserable. Happiness is the measure of success, therefore I have completely failed and am worthless" train of thought, and maybe a wee bit more importantly made me realise that I didn't really want to kill myself.

Then it was the weekend... I was awake for maybe 10 hours of it. I planned to order more meph on Monday, and then once I'd stabilised a bit, figure out what the hell I was going to do. But hey, I got lucky. Got to work on Monday morning and realised that I felt tired, not utterly mentally wiped. Coffee perked me up again. I could concentrate, I could solve problems, think of abstract ideas. I could let my eyes out of focus without feeling zaps through my whole body.

I had another multi week binge recently, with pretty much the same comedown. I did cry a couple of times, but from random mood swings, not suicidal desperation. I think that's mostly because I knew it would end.... it was the uncertainty that was driving me crazy.
Also, I'd picked up a couple of things from the last time that helped a lot - that's the stuff I put above.

I think it's because of whatever messing meph does with serotonin. Basing that only because the wiki page for SSRI discontinuation seems to near perfectly describe the symptoms I had:

dizziness, light-headedness, vertigo or feeling faint; shock-like sensations or paresthesia; anxiety; diarrhea; fatigue; gait instability; headache; insomnia; irritability; nausea or emesis; tremor; and visual disturbances.

And persistent adverse effects
agitation, anxiety, akathisia, panic attacks, irritability, aggressiveness, worsening of mood, dysphoria, crying spells or mood lability, overactivity or hyperactivity, depersonalization, decreased concentration, slowed thinking, confusion and memory/concentration difficulties.

I didn't have all of those, but it seemed to hit the nail on the head on some of them!

Ask an obvious question: why the HELL do I still take meph, when I know it'll likely result in a binge and a week of hell??? I'll say "because it's a really fun drug". Ask "but is it worth it?". No, it's not, especially if you get week long comedowns from a single night on it. But then, ask a drinker if being drunk is worth the hangover, and I think objectively they'd answer no. But my love/hate affair with mephedrone is far from over.
 
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You mean that nasty 10% cocaine and the fake MDMA. I'd rather pay £30 for a gram of meph than £30 for 100mg of cocaine

What I mean is that once it's illegal, then prices will rise and quality will degrade rapidly. Leaving the user with better options with potentially less side effects. Right now you're right though, it's better than a lot of low quality product out there. Side effects still iffy though.
 
right, 5 days countless grams and finishing off my last bit. Ever. This shits been worse for me than smack havnt eaten for days and managed to talk my mum into giving me my last 2.5g back after giving them to her so i wouldnt take them, feel like such a junkie
 
Hey angelsmoke, are you trying to give meph up?

No, not right now.

Did write a long reply, but then accidentally closed the browser tab. Meph rots your brain!!!

Anyway - ideally I'd like to go for sensible/occasional use - for me all I mean really is to find more things to do to fill up my time, rather than having default state=mephed. Of course, in my ideal world, I don't spend the drug-free time craving drugs.

I know that occasional use still carries risks. I don't really mind causing myself some damage in the name of fun though. Isn't that a decision we've all made? Smoking weed isn't good for you either!! Of course it is a known quantity, etc etc, I do understand why that's not really a fair comparison, but I'm bored of hearing "BUT YOURE HURTING YOURSELF!!!"

Multi-week dosing-every-day must stop. In my accidentally closed reply, I tried to explain how I end up doing it again after a break. Going through my thought process like that was interesting for me.....I withdraw my statement that I don't crave meph when sober.
I'll wonder about doing meph at some point (e.g. the coming weekend) and say "no" to myself. Will bother myself a couple more times about it. Then I get pretty genuine cravings -- an urgent feeling 'need', along with the feeling that I won't be able to cope if I don't have some. Dunno where that comes from.. I guess just similarity to fiending feeling.
Eventually I'll think "hmmm, well, I could do" when one of these cravings comes along. The sense of relief and happiness is rather nice... and I end up wallowing in it a bit. "Maybe I will, I will decide later".
Basically, cravings make me feel shit until I take the drug. It does make me sound like an addict....

^^ that's problem 1.

Problem 2 is the fiendishness leading to loooong binges. That's fine, I can usually convince myself it's time to sleep. I just need to buy some sort of tranquilliser gun to take down Mugabe, who generally struggles with fiending more than me. He doesn't have random sober cravings for it though. So we can't help each other, otherwise we'd end up doing no meph at all!! :! =D

qnibb said:
So you've gotten these week long come downs after just one night on meph?

No, I only get these effects when I binge for a few weeks. A weekend binge, for example, will generally leave me unscathed.
It was directed at Shmitz:
Shmitz said:
I had about 1g of drone on Friday night.
 
offtopic but there's top notch coke going around here atm for the princely sum of £75/g.

Their fuckers aren't they dealers. You could get top notch/normal coke for less than that ten years ago, nowadays you have to pay top whack for the privilege of having drugs as they should be:X
 
Thanks for your post Angelsmoke; it was somewhat comforting to know that it will get better. I too have shared the fear that 'this will go on forever and ill never be normal again’. Lol. Today is Tuesday and im still not right but at least I made it to work on time. :-)

My major concern is the issue with vision. I have to admit; probably one of the best things about the whole experience was the intense eye wobbling. It’s like a pleasurable shaking of vision but an actual physical wobbling of the eye balls.....a bit like gurning with your eyes. But now I can’t seem to focus on shit. I mean I have to squint my eyes just to read your post which wouldn’t normally be a problem for me. I usually have 20/20 vision. Call me paranoid but do you think I could have damaged my eye sight given that the 'eye wobbling' is a physical aspect of drone use?


Peace
 
I doubt it, nystagmus (eye wiggling) is a physical aspect of MDMA use as well and you don't hear about people having problems with their vision afterwards.

I reckon its probably just a bit of paranoia.
 
You may have over-exercised some muscles in your eye socket too, which will certainly pass given time.
 
Their fuckers aren't they dealers. You could get top notch/normal coke for less than that ten years ago, nowadays you have to pay top whack for the privilege of having drugs as they should be:X

iz inflation innit.

£75 in 1999 could buy a house and still have enough change for pie n chips
 
I've noticed the day after using meph I'm tired no matter how many hours sleep I have, also taking approx 2-3 times a week, sometimes only 200mg or so but the high isnt as effective, it's always extremely fiendish tho and takes a lot of resliance to stop myself hoovering up more


ROLL ON MEPHEDRONE MEGATHREAD NUMBER 5!
 
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