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Mephedrone Addiction

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I don't, personally, know of any known long term effects of taking the drug but there may well be. Would you mind posting the health problems you have, if there are any more? So if people who have taken a lot of the stuff can compare to their own experiences?

Bare in mind though that this is all just speculation if there are similar symptoms so it may not be linked to the drug if any similarities do come out.... Research has to start somewhere though eh.
 
My eyes and anxiety are what stick out the most...which I know could be caused by a multitude of things, but considering research has been done on pretty much every other drug I've taken, couldn't hurt to dive into the effects a mephedrone a bit more thoroughly.

This is what I'm experiencing as of the last year and a half or so, some diagnosed, some not. I do have mild astigmatism, but I can differentiate between that and other issues.
HPPD (Hallucinogenic Persistent Perceptual Disorder)
-objects vibrating
-starbursts around lights at night
-sometimes mild double-vision
-corners/lines blend together and vibrate
-constant visual snow (worse at night)
-shifting visuals (hard to explain, wiki has a nice animation of it if you look up HPPD)
-spots in peripheral vision
-more problems but they come and go.

Tinnitus
-constant ringing, not always same volume but always occurring
-sometimes pulse heard in ears
-ears pop a lot, like almost time i open my mouth (def every time i yawn). I'm like constantly sniffing to keep them 'popped in'

Anxiety
-panic attacks
-numbness running from outer/upper chest down sides of arms and hands
-intense/fast heartbeat

Wheezing Attacks (could be related or unrelated, but just started maybe 3-4 months ago)
-characteristic of what I've read asthma attacks to be like (although i've never had breathing issues or asthma)
-wheezing in chest with loose cough, producing clear/white phlegm.
-tight chest/sore throat/runny nose/watery eyes/etc

I also use to think I had really bad circulation issues after my 'freak out' on drone the one time I mentioned in my previous post, but i dont know if thats necessarily true or if I just worked myself up so much over the possibility that I had really fucked myself up that time.
 
Interesting you mention about the eye issues, a friend of mine was complaining last year when he was taking 4 mec that his vision was going funny. He even got it checked out at the hospital who gave him the all clear in the end. Anyway he was using pretty much every weekend, 4-mec and 4-mmc and a couple of weeks ago he told me he has stopped using mephedrone because it's messing with his eyesight. He is adamant mephedrone is causing eye issues
 
Hey buddy, a lot of what you describe reminds me of my more chronic symptoms when I was using mephedrone daily to work, and after stopping taking it, particularly for a few months afterwards. Increased anxiety is a frequently-mentioned side-effect of withdrawing from stimulant medication, and there are a range of other effects, but the general consensus I think I'm seeing from my reading around stimulant abuse seems to be that, just like most other common types of stimulant drugs, the changes you notice when you withdraw are a symptom of your body's having adapted to the drug, and given time without the drug and a reasonably healthy regime (more sleep, fewer McDonald's ;o), your body will adjust back to its baseline position.

Psychologically, things may be a little more difficult for you now that you have labels to attach to the states you find yourself in after withdrawing; the HPPD, tinnitus, anxiety and respiratory symptoms will probably be a significant cause for concern, particularly if you don't remember them occurring before your abuse of mephedrone at the level you do now.

If you would be prepared to seek help, and if you haven't already (and apologies if you have mentioned this previously, but I couldn't find mention of it), I would be inclined to recommend you research drug counselling and rehabilitation services with a view to speaking to a medical professional - in confidence, if that would make you happier - who has experience with the effects of stimulant drug addiction such as cocaine and crack cocaine, methamphetamine, amphetamines, etc.

One of the things I gather from your post you're already aware of is that mephedrone is not a widely-known substance of abuse in the same way that cocaine, amphetamines, and methamphetamine are known in America, but enough is known about mephedrone's effects on the body to be able to say that it is similar enough in action to these more-common drugs that treatment approaches for those drugs - cocaine, meth, etc - may benefit mephedrone users, too.

Lastly, I think it's worth mentioning that I spent a lot of time convincing myself that I was about to suffer a horrible and untimely death almost every time I took mephedrone towards the end of my period abusing the drug. Part of this was probably increasingly-poor quality synths, but I don't for a second deny that another part of the anxiety and low pain threshold must have been my body adapting to the drug, which left me anxious, tired and uninterested when I wasn't dosed-up. I started to experience very real chest pains; lying in bed at night trying to sleep after a week of taking 1g per day, I would experience stabbing and "snatching" pains in my chest, and I couldn't lie on my right or left sides for several months after discontinuation due to these pains.

During the day, both while using the drug and for a short while after discontinuation, I would experience similar discomfort, and would have to sit slouched to the right in my chair at work to try and stop the apparently-uncontrollable chest pains. Eurgh. I honestly though "I'm going to have a heart attack, any minute now...". Not the nicest way to spend your days, is it?

Having been clean since the drug was scheduled in the UK, in April 2010, I'm feeling so much better it's unreal. I've got myself to the gym and lost two stone (although I took things really steady for the first couple of months at the gym), I've found myself a much better job after realising the only reason I put up with my old job was the drugs which made it less-unbearable, and I've sorted my life out. I may also have left my girlfriend, but that was as much because I didn't want to wreck her life the same way I could see I was wrecking my own as for the fact she was batshit-crazy and thought Hello Kitty clothing should be worn as the uniform of the British Royal Artillery*.

Anyway, I digress. I sincerely hope you have some luck answering your worries about the changes this drug has caused to your body, and I also hope you find answers from people who you respect enough to wholeheartedly trust. If I've learnt anything about this experience, it's that 90% of my battle has been against myself; only 10% of my brain seems to have been giving rational arguments - the rest has been assuming the worst with only a shred, if any, of evidence to support it.

All the best. You'll be fine. Honest injuns =o)

/dm

* May not be true. May have been made up to cover up the fact my ex g/f was pretty alright...
 
Thank you for the generous responses guys. I can definitely attest to the fact that my anxiety issues did start after my mephedrone use. Sure I had anxiety before then, but not nearly to the extent that I have now. Being up on the drug for hours at a time binging on it, becoming ultimately paranoid about my surroundings (and my friends when they were around), and the incredible fiending power it has over me can almost certainly be blamed for me being so high strung since then. Not to mention the severe depression-like symptoms and just general awful feelings you get on a comedown off the stuff.

Also, on a side not, I watched the show on A&E last night Intervention, it had a guy on there that was addicted to bath salts (the 'legal' marketed version of mephedrone). He was wrapping flashlights in tinfoil and climbing up on roofs to fight the 'phase people.' In the end he was ultimately diagnosed with schizoaffective disorder, but they were unable to determine if it was caused by the bath salts or not. He was doing around 10 lines a day for 7 months. My thoughts are that he had some psychiatric disorder to begin with and that the drone mulitplied and facilitated that disorder immensely. Either way...if you want that episode...dude looked mad unhealthy. I'm glad I stopped.
 
dont let the drug do you, you do her.
and methcathinone? be smart, do it with moderation and have fun, not bad times, dummy
 
Hey guys. been clean for 5 weeks now. Tbh, from my experience I think you have to tread very carefully with Stim's. I found it relatively easy stopping and don't miss anything about it, esp the poor quality stuff out there at the moment. JuSt Say NO! The stuff pretty much ruined my life (kicked out house/lost job/all friends/dignity/all my stuff) so if this can help one person, then that will be nice....
 
Hello everyone,

My names Ben, I'm 18 from Buckinghamshire. For a long time now I've felt very alone in my mephedrone addiction, but after reading through many pages of this thread it makes me realise it's not just me. August of 2010 was the first time I did mephedrone at a friends 17s, a few days before it had been my mums 5 year death anniversary (died of cancer at 40), so I probably wasn't in the best mind frame anyway to be experimenting with a new drug. Obviously I fell in love with it very quickly, like most on here started out Friday or Saturday, then whole weekend benders.

Realising the addiction was real was when I'd wake up the in the morning and I'll I'd want to do was have a line, all went down hill from there... Mid September I lost my job due to being absent for a few weeks, I got kicked out of my house by my Dad who'd notice this was more than a weekend habit now. I lived in my car sleeping in the back from then until around new years and every day between then and new years I would be doing mephedrone, my longest session being 96 hours, taking anywhere from 3-7 grams a day, getting money however I could, I sold my iPhone, television, laptop, Xbox and various other bits.

Then October time justice finally caught up with me, the police came to my house and arrested me for a burglary I'd committed late august in Tring to fund my habit; I got away with it very lightly considering everything, only a supervision order and a fine (the fine being £1332, which I'm paying off £10 a week for just over two years).

Throughout everything somehow I managed to keep the most important person close to me, my girlfriend Ellie. Having put up with all my shit and pretty much being ignored by me over the summer months as I binged myself to a dark place, I also turned up to where she works with a 20cm hunting knife and told her I was going to end it all, obviously it wasn't as easy as I thought it would be; the police came and arrested me after a phone call from my girlfriend, took the knife from me and mentally assessed me. It then got to a point where it was to impossible to function, memory had fallen to shit, paranoid, in serious debt and I was homeless.

With a lot of counselling and support from my girlfriend I've gone from being a wrecked human being to nearly back to normal. From doing it every day to little session every 7-14 days, but now I've had enough, I want rid of completely. Up until Friday I was doing well, two weeks three days clean, went to a friends on Friday for a couple of beers with the girlfriend, dropped her home and instantly found myself calling my friend to see if he wanted to get on it. Every time I wake up feeling the same, depressed, shaky, jumpy, black lips from dry skin, a sore jaw, two pence sized pupils and completely & utterly hopeless; yet for some fucked up reason this hasn't been enough to put me off? I'm currently doing one drug counselling session a week, one session with my key worker and one with my probation officer.

I need to do something about this, this morning after meeting my girlfriend to let her know I'd fucked up again; for the first time I saw seriousness in her eyes when she told me if this carries on any longer she's leaving. She's been nothing but brilliant to me, and all I've been to her is the opposite, anyone looking at this thread for a first time have a close look. I wish had this in front of me to read the first time I was going to take meph. Even although things are going well, ultimately I still feel hopeless about the situation and think I've exercised every resource I have to try and solve my addiction, I'm just worried it will carry on and I'll end up alone.

Long story I know, sorry about that.

Regards;

Ben
 
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Compulsive use n psychological yeah but Heroin it is not .

Still feel for all you folks that have suffered with addiction of any kind i can truely empathise what with my own demons .

Any of you started out on this once legal drug n ended up flat out on Illegal ones ?
 
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Compulsive use n psychological yeah but Heroin it is not .

Still feel for all you folks that have suffered with addiction of any kind i can truely empathise what with my own demons .

Any of you started out on this once legal drug n ended up flat out on Illegal ones ?

If it counts, mephedrone brought me to bluelight back in 2010.

I didn't start out on meph but it was one of the first drugs I tried, having only had coke, E, weed and alcohol before. It certainly gave me a taste for the finer highs in life. I've now used over 30 different individual drugs, both legal and illegal.
 
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30 eh thats a fair few for a young lad .

When i was 21 i don't think their was 30 !! ;)

Mind you by 16 i was very familiar with
Magic mushrooms , LSD, MDMA ,
Hash all sorts Gold seal , Temple Balls , Afghan , Charis to name just a few .
Skunk weed when it was funkin rare imagine that these days :)

Tried Heroin Smoked much Opium , Speed of all dif qualities inc Proper Pink Paste , thats all off topof me head .

Opium was amazing wish it was more easily availible i used to be able to go to one guys caravan n get a 8th of afghan hash 20 B&H n a fat lump of Opium for £15 !!!

The Opium was just a gift .
Back then i could get quality hash @ £65 a oz n standard Flat Press @ 40 .

This was back when you bought drugs off travelling people .
 
hey guys can anyone relate to me? I was heavily adicted to meph from march - december when i finaly stopped it - it started off at 0.5 gram every other weekend to huge mcat partys every single weekend where id get through over half an ounce in each one. on the last sessions id stopped feeling euphoria from the drug, has this happend to anyone else? also after i stopped heavy usage on december 16th, i have done just a gram on 6 sperate occasions over the last 3 months and each time felt more negative effects than positive and also i had a session where i did about 2 - 3 grams about 2 weeks ago and felt no positive effects from it still. has this happend to anyone? also i have recently tried pills (170mg md) and everyone else gets wierd while i stay the same, just gurning badly. does anyone have any experiances similar to mine? please write back
 
I don't remember exactly how much I consumed over my last 3 day/night bender on mephedrone (also combined some with methylene), but the 2nd and 3rd nights I remember feeling no euphoria at all, I was just left slightly stimulated, mostly frustrated, light-headed, dizzy, and paranoid. So yes, I've experienced what you're referring to with the more negative than positive effects. My friends would be out of their minds feeling up the walls and I would just be sitting in a ball cutting up my next line. Hope this gives you some reassurance that you're not alone in this. Once you've gotten to that poor where all the fun is gone yet you still chase the dragon....it's time to stop.
 
"I'm only gonna do one more line."

The trick there is that the last line is a really really long line that you do in increments.
 
been doing it almost every weekend since the amazing pre ban of 09, should of stopped when it got banned, as most of the stuff around now is utter shit and isnt even meph. would love to say i wish id never started doing meph, but to be honest, booze + mepehedrone has contributed to some of the most amazing euphoric awesome best times of my life. but at a cost. if only my self control didnt falter when on alcohol then i wouldn't be doing this stuff anymore. damn booze removes my ability to give a shit. nevermind though. kinda glad i cant get any decent stuff anymore, as the decent stuff provided some of the worst physical and emotional fucked up times of my life. 500mg on a saturday night would leave me feeling fucked for days in many ways. then stupidly once i recovered id be back on it again
 
You seem remarkably healthy and pepped up though Dan, all things considering. Even though you've been bashing the meph every weekend your lifestyle seems to me to be quite wholesome, and it shows.
 
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