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melting GHB

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john4play

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Hello all.
I get GHB as a whitish crystalline substance. I usually put it in a sealed container in a tub with hot water to melt it down to a clear syrup. If it is left for a day or two, it turns into a crystalline substance again (if it is in a small vial (~2ml) it does not turn back to a crystal however). The effects are consistent with what I have read about GHB. Does this sound like GHB to you ppls?
Cheers. John4play
 
You dont say how you are storing the stuff 4 it 2 turn back 2 crystal - is it having contact with the air ? Ive stored my ghb 4 months in the bottle if was originally made in (made by the same proceedure as yours but with a waxy, rock substance) and stored in the fridge. It has never changed into anything yet.
 
that's not GHB, it's 1,4 Butanediol...which, in turn, turns to GHB in the stomach and has pretty much the same effects but it's a bit heavier on the body.
you can keep it sirupy by storing the vial/bottle/whatever at +20^ celsius.
dunno how many farenheit degrees is that, any of you yanks do know?
 
It is 68 degrees farenheight. Can someone explain what Butanediol is? What it is made of, what it does etc?
 
Short Answer
1,4 Butanediol is a chemical (duh) which, when put in your stomach, transforms magically (weee!!) into GHB, and gives you its effects.
long answer:
check erowid.org ... sorry
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A few things I forgot to mention.
It is stored in an airtight bottle. I don't store it in a fridge> I suspect that it would turn solid very quickly if it did. Fujicrow, you are probably right that storing it over 20 deg celcius would keep it liquid. It generally turns solid on cold nights.
Max dose for me would be about 8ml (taken over the course of a few hours).
 
Sounds like your typical powdered GHB ..
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How can it be typical gb? I have never known gb to turn back to its original form unless it has alcohol added to it
 
Dude,
The most likely reason your GHB is in the form you mention, even at room temperature, is that it has been made with too much NaOH - even 5% too much will tend to make it crystallise at relatively warm temperatures, after which it will always re-crystallise (or be very 'sludgy') even after heating it to re-liquify it.
Put some on your tongue...if it burns a little, you'll know for sure there is too much NaOH.
 
Wait, are you talking about adding hot water to the powder, or are you talking about applying heat to the powder *via* hot water? If you add warm water to powdered GHB, you get your liquid, you can then re-crystalize by simply evaporating the liquid - as I said, sounds like typical GHB... if you're talking about actually heating the straight powder, thats differn't, though I have never heard of doing that...
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What a thread full of misinformation and bad advice.
1,4 Butanediol is a chemical (duh) which, when put in your stomach, transforms magically (weee!!) into GHB, and gives you its effects.
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No it does not. Your LIVER metabolizes BDO into GHB. BDO is toxic and can fuck up your kidneys. Using BDO as a substitute for GHB is not recommended. And BDO is a chemical but ghb is not?
Can someone explain what Butanediol is? What it is made of, what it does etc?
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Butandiol is a member of the diol family, which are just chemicals composed of hydrogen, oxygen and carbon that have a dual OH group (alcohols have only one). GHB has a similar composition, but a different structure. I'm not really sure what you're asking.
made with too much NaOH - even 5% too much will tend to make it crystallise at relatively warm temperatures, after which it will always re-crystallise (or be very 'sludgy') even after heating it to re-liquify it.
Put some on your tongue...if it burns a little, you'll know for sure there is too much NaOH.
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Yeah, if you wanna burn the skin off of your tounge, go right ahead. Using a little too much NaOH will increase the pH to a very high, unhealthy level. Do you frequently make yours with 5% excess NaOH? I don't know why you'd purposely do this, nor why you would make it in a thick solution or evaporate the liquid to make it hard to measure. Why can't everyone follow the standard methods? I guess that's why people get so fucked up on this shit being made by kitchen hacks. Bad advice.
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It's probably not 1,4-BD as 1,4-BD doesn't turn into a solid unless it's frozen at <=14 (IIRC) degrees Celsius. Moderate consumtion of 1,4-BD is IMHO probably not harmful, as the amounts involved are small and it's metabolized -> 4-hydroxybutanal -> GHB very quickly.
 
I was being sarcastic, didn't want to spread misinformation...that's why I asked the guy to check erowid.
AND BDO has not yet been proven toxic to the liver/kidneys.
 
"Yeah, if you wanna burn the skin off of your tounge, go right ahead. Using a little too much NaOH will increase the pH to a very high, unhealthy level. Do you frequently make yours with 5% excess NaOH? I don't know why you'd purposely do this, nor why you would make it in a thick solution or evaporate the liquid to make it hard to measure. Why can't everyone follow the standard methods? I guess that's why people get so fucked up on this shit being made by kitchen hacks. Bad advice."
Get a clue. My point was that whoever made it for him probably IS a kitchen hack and has done it wrong by using too much NaOH...of course you wouldn't do that on purpose and yes it is dangerous to swallow...whoever made it hasn't got his ratios right.
 
thanks for the responses. Basically it seems that nobody can say for sure what it is. Whatever it is though, it seems that pure GHB it is not. I have no idea who makes the stuff and how it is made. I'm thinking that I will seek another source rather than continue ingesting this mutant GHBish John Doe drug (try saying saying that ten times in a row quickly!). Cheers.
 
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