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Megaupload shut down

I've been using Gobbler.com since the shutdown. It's meant for media creators to backup/transfer their project files but is super fast to transfer any file as well. They're giving away free 5GB accounts which is good enough for me for the month. On the same note, files that have already been txfrd through their system send instantly...pretty cool feature in my mind.
 
ColourfulKronos said:
btjunkie's shut down aswel
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Ouch! :(

isohunt still active though

isohunt said:
After losses at MU, TPB and BTJunkie, there's been questions about us and the future. I'll say this: after 6 years of 2 civil lawsuits with MPAA and CRIA, we are still here. None of these events is really new to us. From Lokitorrent to Suprnova, we've seen sites we index come and go. And as long as the Free Internet exists, sharing will endure. As will isoHunt.

Perhaps more than ever, I wish the content industries will wake up to the fact you can't fight technological progress, that battles maybe won, the war is already lost. Unless Content really starts working with Technology to accelerate spread of culture, as the Internet has naturalized it. And make more money than ever in the process. Because so-called piracy enabled by the Internet and media consumption is not a zero-sum game, a download does not equal a lost sale, and what pirates really want is not necessarily free as in beer, but free as in speech and convenience. But I'm preaching to the choir.

Consider this our press release.
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Oh, and I have a static IP address because I specifically wanted one and chose my ISP accordingly. Youhavedownloaded says I have downloaded nothing which is clearly bollocks as I have downloaded many gigabytes on this IP. And seeded.

Attempting to prevent filesharing is stupid or immoral, or both, anyway. But in any case I usually download stuff I've already bought in other forms for convenience. I've spent thousands on movies and music over the years.
 
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Mugz said:
i should probably cancel my filesonic subscription although it might be useful to store files online too for backup incase my computer dies the next time I take it apart 8)
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Mugz try out Dropbox, but it might not have the storage capacity you need. There's a lot of simple things you can do to increase your capacity also. Baring in mind this is free, so if you don't really mind paying for the FileSonic subscription Dropbox might be good for you. Although it's pretty much useless for downloading, although I've seen it used the odd time but it can't work on the same scale as Filesonic would.

I'm surprised about BTJunkie to be honest, normally it's quite hard to shut down these types of websites because the majority of the time they are only indexing torrents - which in itself is harmless and not against the law to the best of my knowledge. It's the same with Warez forums, unless they have their own 'Upload Group' it's nothing more than an index. Hopefully Isohunt is about for the next while as it's my favourite out of the public trackers. I'm loving this big crackdown though in a way, it's been a long while and it's fairly interesting to see what sites are being targeted.
 
I have never used torrents and don't intend on starting, I hope filesharing sites don't go totally extinct, will be a shame. Pretty much all of the files that are listed on filestube are not available on the sharing site anymore :(
 
Treacle said:
I'm sure they could get an invite from a forum, like these people are doing. How do you know they don't work for some anti-piracy company? It sounds a lot more secure, but it's still not risk free. If you use torrents, I'd say you always have a chance of being caught. A chance I'm willing to take. Ha.
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Yeah I agree, I haven't used torrents in years; they seem nowhere near secure enough.

I think the icing on the cake was that anonymous sky torrent users porn leak. Errr, no thanks. Don't fancy my name appearing on something like that.
 
Pirate bay has changed it's domain to .se, to take it out of the hands of the US government. They've also released a statement, aimed at the people trying to shut them down:

INTERNETS, 18th of January 2012.
PRESS RELEASE, FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE.

Over a century ago Thomas Edison got the patent for a device which would "do for the eye what the phonograph does for
the ear". He called it the Kinetoscope. He was not only amongst the first to record video, he was also the first person
to own the copyright to a motion picture.

Because of Edisons patents for the motion pictures it was close to financially impossible to create motion pictures
in the North american east coast. The movie studios therefor relocated to California, and founded what we today call
Hollywood. The reason was mostly because there was no patent.
There was also no copyright to speak of, so the studios could copy old stories and make movies out of them - like
Fantasia, one of Disneys biggest hits ever.

So, the whole basis of this industry, that today is screaming about losing control over immaterial rights, is that they
circumvented immaterial rights. They copied (or put in their terminology: "stole") other peoples creative works,
without paying for it. They did it in order to make a huge profit. Today, they're all successful and most of the
studios are on the Fortune 500 list of the richest companies in the world. Congratulations - it's all based on being
able to re-use other peoples creative works. And today they hold the rights to what other people create.
If you want to get something released, you have to abide to their rules. The ones they created after circumventing
other peoples rules.

The reason they are always complainting about "pirates" today is simple. We've done what they did. We circumvented the
rules they created and created our own. We crushed their monopoly by giving people something more efficient. We allow
people to have direct communication between eachother, circumventing the profitable middle man, that in some cases take
over 107% of the profits (yes, you pay to work for them).
It's all based on the fact that we're competition.
We've proven that their existance in their current form is no longer needed. We're just better than they are.

And the funny part is that our rules are very similar to the founding ideas of the USA. We fight for freedom of speech.
We see all people as equal. We believe that the public, not the elite, should rule the nation. We believe that laws
should be created to serve the public, not the rich corporations.

The Pirate Bay is truly an international community. The team is spread all over the globe - but we've stayed out of the
USA. We have Swedish roots and a swedish friend said this:
The word SOPA means "trash" in Swedish. The word PIPA means "a pipe" in Swedish. This is of course not a coincidence.
They want to make the internet inte a one way pipe, with them at the top, shoving trash through the pipe down to the
rest of us obedient consumers.
The public opinion on this matter is clear. Ask anyone on the street and you'll learn that noone wants to be fed with
trash. Why the US government want the american people to be fed with trash is beyond our imagination but we hope that
you will stop them, before we all drown.

SOPA can't do anything to stop TPB. Worst case we'll change top level domain from our current .org to one of the
hundreds of other names that we already also use. In countries where TPB is blocked, China and Saudi Arabia springs to
mind, they block hundreds of our domain names. And did it work? Not really.
To fix the "problem of piracy" one should go to the source of the problem. The entertainment industry say they're
creating "culture" but what they really do is stuff like selling overpriced plushy dolls and making 11 year old girls
become anorexic. Either from working in the factories that creates the dolls for basically no salary or by watching
movies and tv shows that make them think that they're fat.

In the great Sid Meiers computer game Civilization you can build Wonders of the world. One of the most powerful ones
is Hollywood. With that you control all culture and media in the world. Rupert Murdoch was happy with MySpace and had
no problems with their own piracy until it failed. Now he's complainting that Google is the biggest source of piracy
in the world - because he's jealous. He wants to retain his mind control over people and clearly you'd get a more
honest view of things on Wikipedia and Google than on Fox News.

Some facts (years, dates) are probably wrong in this press release. The reason is that we can't access this information
when Wikipedia is blacked out. Because of pressure from our failing competitors. We're sorry for that.

THE PIRATE BAY, (K)2012
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http://static.thepiratebay.org/legal/sopa.txt

Fantastic.
 
Was watching a video on YouTube the other day and some guy was saying that they (the Americans) can sue for $150,000 per copyright infringement, meaning all the registered accounts on Megaupload are a target... seems we're happy to extradite as well. Didn't check all his sources so take that with a pinch of salt, wouldn't put it past them though.

Some woman was caught downloading 24 songs from Megaupload a few years ago and is still fighting a claim of a few million dollars, it's absolutely backward. Wonder what would happen if she stole a CD? Probably nothing. This will all boil over bigtime, the people who write these laws have no f'king clue.
 
Mugz said:
welcome to bluelight :) nice first post, got a link to that video by any chance?
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Thanks for the welcome :)

Can't find the video at the moment it's on my friends history, I'll have a look and post back.

In terms of extradition, UK student Richard O'Dwyer, who had no criminal charges held against him in the UK, lost his fight and can be extradited to face copyright claims in the US:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-south-yorkshire-16544335

This article highlights that you can face up to $150,000 per copyright infringement in the US
http://www.laintellectualpropertyla...-grooveshark-for-copyright-infringement.shtml

"If Grooveshark is found to have infringed copyrights, they could theoretically face fines up to $150,000 per infringed song."

Also information here on the case where a woman is still being sued for downloading 24 songs to the sum of 1.5 million dollars:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capitol_v._Thomas

Worrying that also in the US, copyright though a civil case can carry jailtime if you can't pay. (Or so I remember, it's late I can't be arsed to find a source :|)

Disgusting to think the FBI has a list of every registered Megaupload user, and can just extradite citizens of the UK and sue them for astronomical amounts.
 
Mugz said:
I'm glad I never paid for a megaupload account.
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Lol, same here! Good old Pirate Bay, you gotta love 'em!

Does everyone realisee that sooner or later (probably sooner) the internet WILL get censored and change beyond all recognition? The authorities simply CAN'T let an entity exist that (to them) is so potentially subversive. The speed with which people can exchange ideas and information is unprecedented. It is this information exchange that poses the biggest threat, not bloody "copyright infringement"! Like the powers that be really give a flying fuck about U2 or Muses's coffers!! LMFAO, how stupid do they think we are?

Unfortunately we (as a general populous) are not only stupid but apathetic and IMO it is already too far down the line. The police state and the level of surveillance has already gone too far and there's no going back.
 
Wouldn't need to be a paid account, you can just register for free on Megaupload!

Torrents aren't the best alternative as they aren't as secure, plenty of people in the UK receiving letters after downloading copyrighted stuff through torrents.

Newsgroups with SSL is the only choice.
 
Tec said:
Wouldn't need to be a paid account, you can just register for free on Megaupload!

Torrents aren't the best alternative as they aren't as secure, plenty of people in the UK receiving letters after downloading copyrighted stuff through torrents.

Newsgroups with SSL is the only choice.
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I dunno, Torrents are free and I've never heard of anyone who knows what (and if you can use a Newsgroup it's likely you know enough) they are doing receiving a letter. It's all scare tactics, and that can even be seen through the entire Hurtlocker thing - no one was even charged to the best of knowledge? And if anyone was the list was significantly reduced. If you're using a very public torrent tracker and downloading the latest movie I would expect one, but that's down to stupidity.

Newsgroups are good, but if you want to download anything more than ten days old you're going to have to pay. While they are fast a torrent can be just as fast. Only time I can really see them being properly useful is for ROMs and the like. If I was willing to pay you can always just grab BTGuard and a seedbox. That alongside a decent private torrent tracker and you're sorted. Plus the community within torrents is a lot better than Newsgroups, with Newsgroups it's all people who consider themselves 'old-school' and don't like newcommers asking questions, it would probably get a larger amount of people using, resulting in cheaper subscription costs if people weren't like that. Although I can see the use if you're interested in 0Day releases/Applications/Latest Games+Cracks, but I'm not personally.

Although I guess it is all down to personal preference, but I wouldn't limit yourself to one way of downloading. Best to have a variety of options.
 
Danny Weed said:
I am thinking about subscribing to giganews, are there any better ones out there?
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Have used Giganews, Newshosting and Astraweb and I've settled with Astraweb now. Giganews would be great if it wasn't so expensive, you can get Astraweb for $11 a month through this link http://tiny.cc/39j5o. Most of the stuff on newsgroups gets uploaded through Astraweb initially I believe.

SpecialK_ said:
I dunno, Torrents are free and I've never heard of anyone who knows what (and if you can use a Newsgroup it's likely you know enough) they are doing receiving a letter. It's all scare tactics, and that can even be seen through the entire Hurtlocker thing - no one was even charged to the best of knowledge? And if anyone was the list was significantly reduced. If you're using a very public torrent tracker and downloading the latest movie I would expect one, but that's down to stupidity.

Newsgroups are good, but if you want to download anything more than ten days old you're going to have to pay. While they are fast a torrent can be just as fast. Only time I can really see them being properly useful is for ROMs and the like. If I was willing to pay you can always just grab BTGuard and a seedbox. That alongside a decent private torrent tracker and you're sorted. Plus the community within torrents is a lot better than Newsgroups, with Newsgroups it's all people who consider themselves 'old-school' and don't like newcommers asking questions, it would probably get a larger amount of people using, resulting in cheaper subscription costs if people weren't like that. Although I can see the use if you're interested in 0Day releases/Applications/Latest Games+Cracks, but I'm not personally.

Although I guess it is all down to personal preference, but I wouldn't limit yourself to one way of downloading. Best to have a variety of options.
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My step dad had a letter after downloading just a single album via torrents, though I won't argue against it being just a scare tactic. It does highlight however, the ease of tracking people who download through torrents. Whilst with newsgroups you have the option of SSL encryption, if you're going to use VPN/BTGuard why not just pay for newsgroups?

Torrents can be just as fast, providing you are sharing plenty and have a good private forum like you say. I'll still use them if need be but I download a lot of 1080p content and with newsgroups you can grab a 12gb video as soon as it's released and download it in under 2 hours. As for community, it's changed a bit over the last few years, especially over at NZBMatrix... friendly bunch and lots of commenting.

Each to there own though, just personally prefer usenet.
 
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I managed to find a film again on a filesharing site that still allows sharing, seems uploaded.to is one of the only sites that has working links. Is a film I already own but didn't bring to my dad's house so wasn't really breaking copyright laws, was just a backup copy ;)
 
Tec said:
Have used Giganews, Newshosting and Astraweb and I've settled with Astraweb now. Giganews would be great if it wasn't so expensive, you can get Astraweb for $11 a month through this link http://tiny.cc/39j5o. Most of the stuff on newsgroups gets uploaded through Astraweb initially I believe.
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Thanks, nice one. I will go with Astraweb then I think :)
 
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