[MEGA] Every Year's Community Growing advice, tips, tricks, & experiences

[Prelude2TragedyII]

Well, Im pretty sure it is an Iron Deficiency Or Sulfur, And the thing is, we bought an RO system because the tap water in the town I have has WAY too much sulfur, and when you draw any warm water it smells like rotten eggs.

So, I'm going to start using the tap water, as I need a higher PPM now that the plants are flowering...
I am currently mixing a bottle of micronutes with some water, wondering if it should use Tap water for this or RO water for this part.
Also, do I have to adjust the pH for foliar spray as well?

I've been going through alot of pages on google just looking at deficnincies, and the only thing that matches up with new growth being completely yellow seems to be Iron/Sulfur/ & or Manganese.

Is it easy to cause lock out with R.O. water? and also, if Ive been watering all of these plants with the same water , why is it only these smaller plants that are having problems? Im wondering if I should upsize the pot sized before it gets too late into flower.
(You aren't suppose to transplant way into flower right? should I put them in 3gals right now?)

 

[misteee]

There's nowt wrong with using foliar sprays to correct deficiencies. In fact, that's the quickest, most efficient way to deal with them. I also give my plants an occasional foliar seaweed extract and microbial sprays, such as AACTs or other microbial protection against disease.

However, sprays designed only to be used as foliar sprays which contain nutrients are a con. Normal feedig should be done through the roots. All they are is diluted nutrients.

I think people (not referring to anyone here) have a bad habit of overcomplicating things, and fucking up so that their end yield is lower than if they'd used the KISS principle. Growing plants doesn't have to be hard.

i couldnt agree more with the kiss principle.
i commonly have to tell my self about that because most hydro shop owners are quick to tell you check this new product out you need to use it yadada.

yes some nutrients really are good but my view with hydroponics is you are mimicing the ideal natural climate, where in the natural climate did you see 3 bottles of monsterbud (i like monsterbud just saying hypothetically)

@@ mehm.

rainwater, i use to use rain water for my feed water, its great and slightly acidic almost ideal for me aiming for a ph of 5.8, sucks now the heat is here, no rain for us

 

[A Lucid Pet]

How are all y'all cloning?

I have a DIY aerocloner that someone has let me borrow but it would take up quite a bit of space and then it's another plug and another wire. Not too big of a deal but it made me look around a bit before plugging it in. I found a wick cloner that seemed like a pretty good idea. I took some cuts and after about 6-7 days I had just the very very beginning of roots starting to form (had to use a magnifying glass to see them) on some of them. The cuts definitely could've been better. It was my first time so I went a little crazy with the scarification and on some of them it was just at the end of the stem instead of a node. Cut first, read up later, amirite?! :D

Anyway it looks like the wick cloner would work if the cuts were done right and if given about 14 days. I'm hoping to get some a little sooner. If it's not really feasible then I will just program it into the production time. I was thinking about trying rapid rooters with some rooting hormone. These clones would be going into soil.

I am interested to hear what everyone around here has tried, liked, disliked and why.

 

[Mehm]

ez cloners work well. Expect them to take 2-3 weeks before being able to transplant. rapid rooters with rooting hormone is KISS. That is what i would go for.

 

[Artificial Emotion]

I have been using Root Riots, which I think are very similar or even identical to 'Rapid Rooters' (they're made from a brown spongy-textured medium). They're really the best medium I've used for propagating cuttings. They are very easy to use and with little effort give superb results. Cuttings root much faster in them than in rockwool and the time between the first and last cutting rooting is also far less than rockwool. The growth is usually very vigorous which is why they're my favourite.

See the photo for a pic of the X Stream I bought.

A lot of people however have very good results with aeroponic propagators, such as the EZ cloner Mehm mentioned, which a lot of people build themselves (see Youtube for instructions if you're interested). I've just bought an X Stream propagator which should arrive in a couple of days. The great thing about them is that they're so easy to use and you don't need to worry about your medium drying out at all. They're almost fool proof and make cloning much much easier. Cuttings by far root a lot quicker than with Root Riots, Rapid Rooters or rockwool.

mistee, I agree with what you're saying about hydro shop owners. The advice they give is often partly okay, but it will almost always be biased towards getting you to buy their products. They're there to sell at the end of the day. For this reason alone I think people shouldn't expect their advice to be completely impartial.

 

[Prelude2TragedyII]

Should I be looking for yellow growth to go back green? Or should I be looking for new growth that is green?

There is new, green growth, but it isn't on the top of the plant, its basically the tiny little leaves the plant puts out where it buds, those leaves are green, but the top it still putting out completely yellow leaves/pistils, I mean they almost fucking look white, I flushed, I sprayed with a micro nutrient supplement.
Blah, Im guessing this is going to turn out just like my last grow, Fucking fuck.

My Afghan Kush and My Northern Lights still look fine, which completely blows my fucking mind. those 2 plants are in a 3 gal, I also have my other Northern Lights in a 3 gal, and it is having the SAME effects the clones I bought are having, Im watering them all with the same shit, and yet they are all fucked up, wtf. Im beggining to freak out on this, Its pissing me off and nothing I do changes anything.

I made 3 clones of Afghan Kush, From the looks of it, I'm not sure they will make it, Out of the 4 I cute, 1 just straight dropped and died within 12, hours , the others, I have had for a day, they are all still standing, and I've been trying to keep them moist and spraying their leaves throughout the day.

Ugh, I'm so frustrated, I just wanna rip out and start over, but I know Ill just keep running into the same damn problem until I find out what that problem is in the first place.

 

[Mehm]

^^I say fuck it. Keep them in flower, feed with flowering nutes, and see what happens. Don't give up. Some of your plants look proper and should give you a nice yeild.

 

[A Lucid Pet]

I have been using Root Riots, which I think are very similar or even identical to 'Rapid Rooters' (they're made from a brown spongy-textured medium).

You're right in that they are the same idea but I think the composition is a little different. Probably very minor. You do prefer them over the aerocloner though?

ez cloners work well. Expect them to take 2-3 weeks before being able to transplant. rapid rooters with rooting hormone is KISS. That is what i would go for.

Thanks for the input.

I think I will keep my wick cloner going and get some rioting rapid rooting rooters going as well. Do a side by side and check the results. Like I said I think the wick cloner will work very well, just slow. None of my clones wilted or anything after 7 days. "Or anything" includes no root growth though either lol.

Prelude, I read your posts and I'm sorry, I have to smile because I can relate. I'm on my first grow right now and I'm just trying to raise some healthy mothers so I can get a perpetual SOG going. It all seems so simple on paper (screen?) but when you start doing it yourself it can be a very "WTF?!" experience. Especially when you have so much time, energy and love put into them. Honestly I'm a little scared to flower lol. I wish you the best of luck though. One thing I've noticed and I'm sure you've noticed from reading around is that if you keep at this you WILL learn the plant. If you get anything out of your first grows that's a success.

Of course that doesn't make the present any less frustrating but I'm sure you'll get it.

 

[Artificial Emotion]

You're right in that they are the same idea but I think the composition is a little different. Probably very minor. You do prefer them over the aerocloner though?

No, actually I prefer the aeroponic propagator to be honest. They're a little faster and easier to use. They're also cheaper in the long run and are compatible with soil grows as well as aero/hydroponics.

Having said that if I didn't have an aeroponic propagator Root Riots would be my first choice.

 

[A Lucid Pet]

^ Excellent, thank you. I might just have to make my own then because the one my friend let me borrow is a beast.

 

[Artificial Emotion]

Prelude I suggest that you try and do a basic no frills grow. Use a fully fertilized soil and if you pot up a couple of times and you'll only need to use a bloom fertilizer. Do this and only then if you can get through the grow with no problems should you progress onto using other additives etc. The fewer things you can get away with doing/adding the easier it will be to tell what's wrong if you run into problems. I think you're making things too complicated for yourself.

Going back to basics is the best thing you can do.

 

[Greenstar420]

How are all y'all cloning?

I have a DIY aerocloner that someone has let me borrow but it would take up quite a bit of space and then it's another plug and another wire. Not too big of a deal but it made me look around a bit before plugging it in. I found a wick cloner that seemed like a pretty good idea. I took some cuts and after about 6-7 days I had just the very very beginning of roots starting to form (had to use a magnifying glass to see them) on some of them. The cuts definitely could've been better. It was my first time so I went a little crazy with the scarification and on some of them it was just at the end of the stem instead of a node. Cut first, read up later, amirite?! :D

Anyway it looks like the wick cloner would work if the cuts were done right and if given about 14 days. I'm hoping to get some a little sooner. If it's not really feasible then I will just program it into the production time. I was thinking about trying rapid rooters with some rooting hormone. These clones would be going into soil.

I am interested to hear what everyone around here has tried, liked, disliked and why.

Cloning for me is all about rockwool cubes, spray bottle, dip'n'grow rooting hormone, GH nutes at a 1/4tsp per gallon, Liquid karma 1.5 tsp per gallon, and superthrive 1/4tsp per g. PH to 5.8 and put cubes in water to soak for a couple minutes, take them out, put them in a black tray and start clipping, dipping and sticking. Then put the humidity dome hood over your tray, take off for a few minutes a few times throughout the day for the first 5days, your roots should be exploding out the bottom of the cubes in a week. Very easy and clean with 90-100% success rate.

 

[Artificial Emotion]

The above methods are great but I forgot to mention that if you're using soil a great way of propagating cuttings is to get a small pot, 5-10cm diameter will do, fill with compost and put your cutting in. If you keep the relative humidity high and give it a little water this is all you need to do for it to root. You can get a near 100% success rate this way, even if it takes a bit longer.

 

[misteee]

ohhh my little babies are all tucked in now im getting excited to watch there life unfold in there new house.
now, personal experiences people how high should i let the seed sprout up(grow) before i change from using a 130w CFL to a 400w MH?? they are currently at 6 cm high ive even named em, ' the brady bunch'

 

[w01fg4ng]

ohhh my little babies are all tucked in now im getting excited to watch there life unfold in there new house.
now, personal experiences people how high should i let the seed sprout up(grow) before i change from using a 130w CFL to a 400w MH?? they are currently at 6 cm high ive even named em, ' the brady bunch'

Aw man I remember naming my first plants, that's so cool.

Anyway, you want to make sure the sprouts are nice and healthy before changing their lights. 6cm is a little too small. Give them at least another couple of cms of growth. If and when you are ready, don't immediately give them your full vegetation hours of MH.

The first day give them a couple of hours of MH, then put them back in the CFL. Next day four hours of MH, and return to CFL. The next day 8 hours of MH and so on. This way if you notice any issues you can immediately address them instead of having a plant burn/welt/die in 24 hours without notice.

This limits the stress you put on them and allows you to transfer lights a little quicker than if you wait until they are big enough to handle the 24 hour change in one day.

 

[minddetergent.]

The first day give them a couple of hours of MH, then put them back in the CFL. Next day four hours of MH, and return to CFL. The next day 8 hours of MH and so on. This way if you notice any issues you can immediately

Simpler to just lower the light gradually, changing bulbs back and forth is unheard of
and unecessary work.

The simplest way of cloning is place clone in glass of water and change water every 2-3 days, this method is slow though and of little interest to most growers.

ot: been smoking ugorg killer skunk. Its a nice strain for fans of skunks. Funnily enough I find the 7 week pheno has a better high than the 2 9 week ones....not that I' complaining mind.

 

[w01fg4ng]

Simpler to just lower the light gradually, changing bulbs back and forth is unheard of

Well consider this your first time hearing it (even though I have already posted this same method IN THIS THREAD)

 

[minddetergent.]

I am always open to new methods and techniques when it comes to growing, would be a bad grower otherwise. Break it down for me please. Will I yield more or have healthier plants?

 

[w01fg4ng]

It limits the stress you put on them. I am sure your method works fine, but think about the kind of stress you are putting on them by placing them so far from the light at the same time having an immediate and permanent difference in heat and light waves. You will most probably see more stretching in your method, resulting in a less healthy plant, bringing you less yield.

I'm not claiming that it will guarantee dramatic results, but I am claiming that it can make the difference whether or not your plant remains healthy or even survives the transfer. Especially if you are new to growing, it's easy to stress a plant out and it's best to give them the least amount of stress as possible. Notice my advice was giving to someone growing for their first time. It's a common method that was giving to me by a couple of professional growers when I first started growing, and I have seen the difference it makes.

 

[minddetergent.]

Mate my plants only stretch when I put them in flower and when they get under the old HPS they start to grow faster! Stress would cause them to go slower and internode distance isn't increasing so your theory doesn't hold water. My plants are always very healthy as well, I can post pics if you would like to see how my plants grow.

Swapping back and forth whether its light levels, ph levels, root temp or any aspect of the growth process that can fluctuate can cause stress, we want a consistent environment.