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[MEGA] Cannabis Addiction & Withdrawal

cannabis was the 3rd hardest addiction for me to kick
after buprenorphine and online gambling
it really isn't easy, for a long time i had just given up trying to quit.
those 3-4 day periods where i'd have no weed always succkkkeeddd
then i'd get some bud and be like "man i wouldn't want to relive those days again..."
 
Hello all i would like to share my story. i was the typical behind the school smoker and back to laugh in classroom. i really enjoyed it althougt i often smoke too much and got REALLY facked ap (iwould compare this to bad trip with full mindfuck). anyways years pass i smoke daily whenever possible these"cannabis overdoses" had passed cos of tolerance. anyways i started growing and the amounts i smoke became much bigger ii think 10G on best days. by this time weed didnt affect me at all. i think my brain just kept weed state normal. anyways i took break its actuallly much easier than ppl say 2-3 nights you dont sleep much and food tastes S*** (edit had like1 year break occasional joints ofc ) i recently made little harvest 140g when i started i just get panicy and anxiety feelings. this passed after tolerance grew and then no effects at all. but i still had to load my bong every 30 mins like a robot. this time my smoking was bit crazy i mean nonstop i quit it in wall after product stopped (no grower will ever pay for weed or thats my thing) slept bad few days and thats it. Anyways ive been off weed for few months sometimes when im drunk i start want it bad but im going to be smokefree for few years maybe in future ill try new harvest and hope i can get those good feelings again :) sorry for long post and anyone else experience these not working no matter how much you smoke?
 
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Trying2Iso said:
cannabis was the 3rd hardest addiction for me to kick
after buprenorphine and online gambling
it really isn't easy, for a long time i had just given up trying to quit.
those 3-4 day periods where i'd have no weed always succkkkeeddd
then i'd get some bud and be like "man i wouldn't want to relive those days again..."
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It seems to vary for people and everytime someone says they felt terrible stopping someone seems to feel offended to hear anything negative about weed and denies it could be so. being out of weed was always bloody awful for me and the withdrawl last more than 3-4 day. The whole debate over weed seem polar - you have the antis would talk total shit about it driving people insane and think it's awful and the evangelical who will defend it at every turn. Truth is I feel it is reasonably harmless and doesn't cause most much problem but really not good for some and some people get into very heavy use and really have trouble giving up despite it maybe not being that positive a thing in their life. I wish there was more even handed handling of the subject. That it can have negatives is no argument against making it widely and legal available for example since prohibition is morally wrong a waste of time and money and general makes any negatives potentially worse.

Sometimes I miss it but I am told I am much more relaxed and even without; not everything is perfect now - I have problems but weed didn't really cure many of them - I miss the music and sex aspects but I smoked all day everyday and couldn't go without and it took years to finally stop - the negatives of going back to heavy use and the constant grief of running out stops me trying it again. Maybe I could do it seldom but I just wanted more as soon as I tried it and carried on like that for 20+years. there were good times but also a lot of wasted time and money
 
Tryptamino said:
I know I'm a mod in this subforum, but I'm just a garden-variety pot smoker like yourselves, so I have a quesion for those who have smoked daily and successfully reduced their use to occasional/weekly/monthly/etc.

How long did you go without smoking, and do you find it difficult to avoid using it daily? Do you feel that much better after reducing your usage? How long did you suffer withdrawals (yes,mcannabis WD's are real and quite unpleasant for some, myself most certainl included)?

I'm just having a very difficult time quitting it, or finding a good enough reason to quit.
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Just need to taper & there's no withdrawal, can do a fast taper & cut your use in half every day, or just keep your use moderate. I only ever got withdrawals after abruptly stopping after pretty extreme daily use, if I keep it under a gram of weed a day or taper to that there's absolutely no withdrawal, for me. Finding a reason to quit can be harder, only thing that feels better is the lower weed tolerance when I start again. Main reason I don't quit is my illness symptoms get worse after about a week without weed & I end up on codeine or some shit instead.
 
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Sir Ron Pib said:
It seems to vary for people and everytime someone says they felt terrible stopping someone seems to feel offended to hear anything negative about weed and denies it could be so. being out of weed was always bloody awful for me and the withdrawl last more than 3-4 day. The whole debate over weed seem polar - you have the antis would talk total shit about it driving people insane and think it's awful and the evangelical who will defend it at every turn. Truth is I feel it is reasonably harmless and doesn't cause most much problem but really not good for some and some people get into very heavy use and really have trouble giving up despite it maybe not being that positive a thing in their life. I wish there was more even handed handling of the subject. That it can have negatives is no argument against making it widely and legal available for example since prohibition is morally wrong a waste of time and money and general makes any negatives potentially worse.

Sometimes I miss it but I am told I am much more relaxed and even without; not everything is perfect now - I have problems but weed didn't really cure many of them - I miss the music and sex aspects but I smoked all day everyday and couldn't go without and it took years to finally stop - the negatives of going back to heavy use and the constant grief of running out stops me trying it again. Maybe I could do it seldom but I just wanted more as soon as I tried it and carried on like that for 20+years. there were good times but also a lot of wasted time and money
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I agree with pretty much everything u said, I had a drug dealer who experimented with every drug under the sun, even shot coke and heroin, smoked meth, and ketamine.
His vice was still weed, he told me he could deny himself harder drugs but had grown to rely on weed as his soft place to land.
The very nature of weed can make it all the more addictive- it isn't all too expensive, no comedown or crash, doesn't last too long so it doesn't ruin your whole day, doesn't fuck you up too much to be around people, and has a VERY strong social acceptance in comparison to other drugs. Pretty attractive package tbh.
 
I dont have much help but i do have a question. When i was a hard core pothead i was high all day everyday. The days Id have to wait a few hours to get more i wasnt able to eat just want hungry. I would get sick to my stomach if i tried to eat while being sober. I remember my dad took me out to dinner once and i had to sober up because he isnt about this life. I hardly ate anything and just wanted to get home and smoke my nausea away. There was one week where i was broke as shit and had scraped all my resin. I made it through the school day but as my boy friend was driving me home we had to pull over so i could throw up. I threw up over and over for like thirty mins until i got back in the truck and had him take me home. As soon as i got home i told my mom i was out of weed and money and asked her if she had $10 to spare she shook her head. My boyfriend felt bad for me because who likes being nauseous right? So he took me to his friends house and we smoked some, but a couple mins after the first hit i started throwing up again. Is it normal to throw up so much like that with cannabis wd?
 
CeCeKitty said:
I dont have much help but i do have a question. When i was a hard core pothead i was high all day everyday. The days Id have to wait a few hours to get more i wasnt able to eat just want hungry. I would get sick to my stomach if i tried to eat while being sober. I remember my dad took me out to dinner once and i had to sober up because he isnt about this life. I hardly ate anything and just wanted to get home and smoke my nausea away. There was one week where i was broke as shit and had scraped all my resin. I made it through the school day but as my boy friend was driving me home we had to pull over so i could throw up. I threw up over and over for like thirty mins until i got back in the truck and had him take me home. As soon as i got home i told my mom i was out of weed and money and asked her if she had $10 to spare she shook her head. My boyfriend felt bad for me because who likes being nauseous right? So he took me to his friends house and we smoked some, but a couple mins after the first hit i started throwing up again. Is it normal to throw up so much like that with cannabis wd?
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hang on i have to get my microscope...
 
After heavy chronic smoking (multiple times a day for about a year), I went cold turkey. First week was tough - cravings and such but the worst part was insomnia and cold sweats but they only lasted about a week for me. After a week, I had incredibly vivid and immersive dreams that left me a little rattled in the morning with out intense they were. Those lasted a couple nights and then it's been smooth sailing since.
 
I am editing this because it was bad advice and it didn't work for me.

Sucks that those of us who get bad WD from cannabis have only much worse alternatives to turn to.

I started taking kratom and quit smoking pot. Next thing I knew I was faced with kratom WD making me wish I had just stuck with the cannabis in the first place.

PLEASE TAKE MY ADVICE AND NEVER TRY KRATOM FOR CANNABIS WD. IT IS 100% LIKE TRYING TO KILL A FLY WITH A SHOTGUN!
 
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I used to smoke cigarettes, do xanex, lortab, tramadol and smoke pot. Pot is my only staple. I quit all of the others cold turkey..well using pot as a substitute, so not really cold turkey I don't guess. I took all my 2 pack a day cigarette habit and converted that money over to weed money, and then a few months later did the same with my pill money. Tramadol actually was the hardest to give up, I'd ate so many everyday I felt like i couldn't get any physical work done without them. I had been using pain meds for about 10 years when I quit, only dabbling with xanex a few times in this period. The nerve pills weren't very attractive to me as I always liked to remember if I had a good time or not, and I felt they only made me want to fuck, fight, steal, and sleep. The pain meds gave me the, "You won't want to go to work today if you don't find a lortab or some trams" feeling. Sometimes I would call in to work and tell them I was sick, and then I would find out someone I worked with got their prescription and miraculously recover. Where pot has always just made me feel, well good. Not any better than when I'm not high or anything. I'm not a magnificent writer or painter or anything stoned, and I'm not sober either. Pot has always been more of a game enhancer than a game changer like the pills. It was so much harder quitting pills than pot too...I've had to quit pot for weeks, months, years, and they are all hard for a few days but not undoable. I thought when I quit pills I was going to die, or have to go to an actual rehab facility. But I would go to work, refuse offers to buy pills, refuse my dad's offers to give me pills, smoke a big fat joint at the end of the day and feel much much better for it.
 
I have quite the issue mates.
Pot surrounds my life and I'm growing tired of not moving forward in my life. Up until this point, cannabis was used for everything - schooling, writing, sorts, working out. ..
but now that I'm older and no longer in school and although i have a full time job, It's not where i want to be.
I also have a minor Kratom addiction and i want to stop that as well. I just can't get happy anymOre and marijuana doesn't get me high when I'm depressed.

I'm going to try a little detox, even if it's just for 24 hours (i can only hope for that long).
Aside from the cold and flu meds I'll be taking, and melatonin to sleep - what else helps stave off smoking green? Besides immersive activities sports etc.
I'm strictly talking vitamins etc.

I recently freaked out on three people i love dearly, and one that i was just repairing a relationship with.
My mood swings were unjustified on all occasions and I'm beginning to think my poor brain seriously needs a rest fromthe 7+ years of daily smoking.
And I'm so hurt that i chased people i love away from me all due to my own indulgences. I feel disgusting.
 
Yeah that sounds pretty intense for just shatter or wax my friend, but I suppose everyone is different. From the way you described your experience it sounds more like what people describe synthetic WD.

What was your daily dose before you quit?

I can relate to feeling emotionally out of control when I quit smoking though.
 
i guess it depends how bad the habit was when you stopped, i remember when i was a heavy toker and suddenly quit it was really difficult to even eat and keep food down, nowadays if i indulge daily for too long and quit i'll feel a bit more restless during the day but it won't really hit until it's time to sleep and then i'll just toss and turn for hours even if i tired myself out beforehand.

and that's just with the flowers, a habit of concentrates could have an even greater effect since there's more distance between tolerance and baseline
 
Salutations, all :)

I thought I should share my current story, as perhaps people can relate to how I'm feeling after quitting smoking (4th day in), or even offer some insight or correct me if I'm wrong.

Firstly, I don't wish to delve into the discussions RE: cannabis being psychologically/ physically addictive - reading through everyone's posts on this thread I would conclude that the abuse of cannabis is down to the user's personality. Also it appears as though people on this thread ARE able to use cannabis with moderation, and therefore avoid abusing the substance & benefiting from the wonders cannabis has to offer.

For me however, I feel as though I've abused cannabis way too much from a young age & don't trust myself to moderate my usage, so I've gone cold turkey.

Smoked my first spliff at age 14, loved it, amazing. Few weeks later went back into the woods with the same group of friends and had an awesome time - cannabis was AWESOME! So through the next few months it slowly developed into a habit I could do when I had the pocket money to do so, just hanging in the local park with the same group of friends (& meeting other smokers) until after 2 maybe 3 years of doing this (and usage increasing), it developed into a daily thing. I was ignorant to the fact that each day I felt more & more like I needed to puff - not because of withdrawing, but because it felt like it was the only entertaining thing to do & only way to wind-down. Recently my estimated usage was roughly 1g a day, but this too was starting to increase (I should add - I've always smoked with tobacco (along with cigarettes when not high) - mostly spliffs & occasional shotties (bongs always sent me into mental meltdown).

4 years passed of smoking daily, the last 2 years of which I realised my life has been consumed by smoking - It's all I thought about. I was level headed enough not to smoke before work mon - fri, but it was the first thing I'd do when I get home, and the first thing I'd do waking up on the weekends. The last year of so of smoking, I've been experiencing real nasty side affects which I believe are down to abusing the substance. I had massive social anxiety, I experienced frequent minor panic attacks around my friends (which I'd keep silent and act normal) and 3 weeks ago had a fully blown panic attack when one of my friends (ish) joined our relaxed atmosphere, drunk as a skunk and high on lots of vali. The change in atmosphere sent me into melt down, I had to leave, I had the shakes for 20 minutes and my mind was racing faster than Usain Bolt. It subsided, but made me realise something in my life had to change.

Not going to lie, these past 4 days have been difficult, particularly at night time, however I've experienced nowhere near the anxiety levels I did when toking - I've also been free of panic attacks so far. On the downside my mood has been mostly down (& sometimes up but I wouldn't say manic) - I've been using valium (only for the past 3 days) to help with the sleep, so hasn't been too much of an issue - and of course, as most people seem to have experienced, complete lack of appetite. I'm not going to use valium from today - as I understand this is certainly a physically addictive drug and I don't want to end up a train wreck 1 step forward & 5 steps back (melatonin & complex B supplements have been suggested - I will try this - though melatonin is not available OTC where I live and I don't want anything of the sort on my medical history, so I may look for alternatives or deal with the insomnia)

My Dad's always toked, & my mums side of the family have a history of depression, prescription dependence & anxiety issues - perhaps this is why I'm more susceptible than others to abusing the substance.

It's early days for me to be offering advice really, but I totally feel like my anxiety issues & such were down to my abuse of this substance, and if you can relate to this, perhaps you should give yourself a good break from smoking and re-evaluate the effects it's having on your life. My next step is to get into a regular exercise routine, eating as healthy as possible, and using relaxation techniques such as meditation. I've also taken up nicotine-vaping instead of smoking cigarettes (although I've had the occasional cigarette when I have strong cravings to puff).

I will re-visit this thread a few days time, maybe a week, and share with you how I'm feeling.

Peace all, & please wish me luck :)
 
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