RCs MDPV: What feels better, IV or Oral?

[socio]

I remember I used to just LOVE the feeling of eat Ritalin back in high school (i.e. methylphenidate).

So, there was a 250mg bag of MDPV at my house yesterday. It went IV in doses up to 50mg/shot. Never felt like too much. But more scary than fun by the end.

Does is feel QAULITATIVELY different to eat it? Not just weaker, but a different feeling? And what's the bioavail?

 

[Special_Monster]

I've done MDPV only once but from the sound of it whatever you have got with you must be cut with something or isn't MDPV.

Here are is a general dosage guides for MDPV:

5 mg = low

10mg = moderate

15mg = high


I heard a lot of people prefer smoking MDPV but I wouldn't recommend this as from what I've heard it is extremely addictive (on same levels as crack some say) and when it’s burnt produces a toxic gas.

I think snorting is the easiest way considering the dosage sizes of pure MDPV, I haven't heard anything regarding taking it orally. I think IV has been used but without lurking I know nothing about it.

Someone correct me if anything is wrong, this is just the general idea of MDPV I've got, I have no interest in it and therefore not that much research.

 

[socio]

I've done MDPV only once but from the sound of it whatever you have got with you must be cut with something or isn't MDPV.

Here are is a general dosage guides for MDPV:

5 mg = low

10mg = moderate

15mg = high


I heard a lot of people prefer smoking MDPV but I wouldn't recommend this as from what I've heard it is extremely addictive (on same levels as crack some say) and when it’s burnt produces a toxic gas.

I think snorting is the easiest way considering the dosage sizes of pure MDPV, I haven't heard anything regarding taking it orally. I think IV has been used but without lurking I know nothing about it.

Someone correct me if anything is wrong, this is just the general idea of MDPV I've got, I have no interest in it and therefore not that much research.

Thanks, I'll have to try another vendor. My first shot of 15, though, did hit me pretty good, I will say. But maybe it was only 1/3 the real, 2/3 cut... it didn't completely dissolve in water at 1cc/ML:100mg, which it probly should've if pure.

 

[Special_Monster]

Sorry to hear about getting a dodgy batch. The main problem with cutting is you don't know the ratio so you can't have any idea of your mdpv dosage which makes it hard to get the desired high. I would try again and find a better batch.

Also just to let you know if you live in the UK MDPV will be banned this Friday along with mephedrone. Only thing that is surviving the ban is NRG-1... but who the hell wants that crap

 

[socio]

I think what happened was I got 4-MMC, rather MDPV, which the vendor indicated was Mephedrone. I guess they are not the same thing at all, because I have been reading that peopl take doses of several hundred mg's of mephedrone/4MMC. Have read less about MDPV. But they don't sound like the same substance, although they are often referred to that way.

I'm new at this. I'd rather have something that closely resembles ritalin or some kind of amphetamine. Consequenctly I just eat tons of ephedrine every day. (Which sucks, except that I'm also on enough benzos to take off the edge.)

 

[Special_Monster]

Well MDPV is a pure stimulant. Structurally it's very similar to ritalin.

Are you sure you have 4-MMC then? God damn vendors
Mephedrone has stimulant properties similar to speed
but it comes with some euphoria similar to MDMA but not as strong or intense.

If you're sure that it is 4-MMC then you could try but I'd email the vendor first or try dig up some information.
I normally do oral doses of mephedrone, here is a general guideline:
Low: 75mg - 100mg
Medium: 125mg to 175 mg
High : 200mg to 250mg +

I haven't used IV with mephedrone but here is a trip report on IV

The vendors have been doing things like this quite a bit for these last few weeks,

 

[pagantom]

IV MDPV second try

This is my second attempt with IV MDPV and I'm doing this because there is SO LITTLE info out there on this drug, by this method.

I purchased 1g from a reputable RC company I know, so I know it was as close to pure as you can get.
The first experience was "by the book" as IV goes: 1/2 oral recommendation= 5 mg, and was no big deal: slight dry mouth, good focus. Meh.

Second experience was two weeks later.
Again, with .000 mg scale, I measured out 8 mg. mixed with sterile water. Syringe barrel didn't "take" right away, but I pushed it anyway.
Waited :10 minutes. Meh effect.

OK: this time I do it like I've done before - I know what 8mg looks like in the spoon, so I go for an eyeball of 15 - 20 mg (I really DO know what it looks like, but should have measured it anyway, thanks)

This time, smaller bore insulin syringe instead of my old standby BD 3cc's.
Boil, filter, inject in smaller forearm vein.
Almost immediate effect with this amount.
Whoa Nelly!

Actual report below:

Subject: 50 yo male, experienced stim user
Weight: 81kg (180 lb)
Amount by weight, 15 mg
Via IV

10:30 a
no real effect
waited 10 minutes, felt a little something

+:15
IV again, eyeball, about 20 mg (yeah, I know)
almost immediate effect
good, pleasant rush
breathing heavy though nose
controlling breathing and resp.

good high, good pleasant rush
slight clenching, not much
attempting to slow breathing
HR: over 90, but thready
nice effect.
focus good

+:30
typing beginning to be hard, but focus increasing
will wait
slight "tonguing"
great rush after this time
lips dry
intense rush with this amount
can't tell if the first hit took or not, not much barrel "tell"
second was positive tell
very good feeling
breathing through nose necessary
several mouth breaths for oxygen control
BP monitor: HR 120, BP 137 over 77 at + :30
rush somewhat abating
effect seems to be somewhat all in my head,
slight dry mouth, some lip smacking

+ 1:00
slight body tremors in the leg "jumping"; easily controlled
respiration slowed somewhat over first rush
still hard to type without spelling errors.
still researching effect on Erowid: no IV reports, going to BlueLight
slight dry mouth.
fairly easy to concentrate.

+ 1:30
physical rushing has subsided.
slight dry mouth.
still very mentally active.
hands can't type as fast as the mind wants them too.
still have to focus in order to avoid spelling mistakes.

End of report at this time, I will amend at baseline
Thanks!

 

[Shambles]

Yup. It's pretty fuckin' arse-clenchingly strong IV. Hard to redose too often that way cos veins run for cover pretty quick same as they do with most stims. I generally prefer to smoke it (run on tinfoil for "moderate" hits or 20-30mg in a bong for "rip ya head off" hits) with a few IV chasers here and there. I also often try to switch to oral dosing for the last few doses of a session as it helps smooth the comedown out a bit. Really don't get a comedown at all beyond being shattered after being insanely wired for the best part of a week when I've done it that way.