The yellow goo is my favourite bit as well and it definitely is a different high. Im not sure if this would be considered synth talk but its relatively simple and dosnt involve any other chemicals or equipment so Im assuming its ok to post?, dissolve some MDPV or A-PVP in water (I found A-PVP works better) then place the mixture in the oven at about 180-200, keep an eye on it and after a bit it turns to a golden almost solid which has to be scraped and chipped off, this produces a much nicer calming high when vaped.
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The yellow goo is my favourite bit as well and it definitely is a different high. Im not sure if this would be considered synth talk but its relatively simple and dosnt involve any other chemicals or equipment so Im assuming its ok to post?, dissolve some MDPV or A-PVP in water (I found A-PVP works better) then place the mixture in the oven at about 180-200, keep an eye on it and after a bit it turns to a golden almost solid which has to be scraped and chipped off, this produces a much nicer calming high when vaped.
Mugz
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I've got a few weeks booked off work in August and was considering a mini PV binge, it could be fun, even though the stuff made me psychotic last time I did it and I think the time before it still has a strange appeal, I'm not quite sure why, if I do get some then I might be able to focus enough to do a ton of Mugobian or screenplay or novel writing
Mailmonkey
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do all 3 :D , do the Mugobian 1st, then do the novel and screenplay in Mugobian
Mugz
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:D That sounds like a challenge, have decided to spend most of my time off away from home so am not sure if I can fit a PV binge, I probably will still try and fit one in on my last week off although I think that challenge might take a bit longer than a week!
knock
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I'm not great at chemistry, but I think this should not be the case. MDPV is one molecule. Vaporisation temperatures apply to molecules, not bits of molecules.
THC is one molecule, and the various other cannabinoids are also molecules.
Differences in vaporisation temperatures are a function of forces between molecules of a substance, not within them.
I think!
MDPV_Psychosis
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I'm not great at chemistry either but it would seem that there are differences in effects between a puddle of freshly melted pv versus a darkened blob of pv after its been heated and cooled several times. Perhaps some type of reaction is occurring during the heating process that alters the molecular structure? Or perhaps there are impurities related to the synthesis used that are psychoactive too that have a different boiling point. So possibly you're either vaporizing most of this small percentage of impurity away in the beginning (lower BP than pv) or your getting mostly pure pv in the beginning followed by pv and more and more of this impurity towards the end (higher BP than pv). Wish I knew more about chemistry.
Acid4Blood
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^ Good point. I think you may be onto something there.
Where's F'n'B when you need him to shed some light on a subject?!
Where's F'n'B when you need him to shed some light on a subject?!
MDPV_Psychosis
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This "run" has been going on for far too long and I'm sad to say not only am I ready for a break but I need one. Circumstances don't allow for it just yet but a break (possibly indefinitely) is in the works and hopefully just around the corner.
PV just isn't really doing it anymore... and for me to be able to say that sure says a lot about just how overdue I am for that break. Considering running with desoxy until a break is possible cause my brain and body barely even notice any effect from pv unless I take too much (side effects far outweigh positives at this point). I've dabbled with desoxy on few occasions but am concerned I may be opening a can of worms I should just leave closed.
I love thee pv but I think its time I move on... got a feeling I won't be gone long but I know in my heart its time to move on for good.
PV just isn't really doing it anymore... and for me to be able to say that sure says a lot about just how overdue I am for that break. Considering running with desoxy until a break is possible cause my brain and body barely even notice any effect from pv unless I take too much (side effects far outweigh positives at this point). I've dabbled with desoxy on few occasions but am concerned I may be opening a can of worms I should just leave closed.
I love thee pv but I think its time I move on... got a feeling I won't be gone long but I know in my heart its time to move on for good.
Acid4Blood
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may?! Try definately! You must really love psychosis!
Glad to hear you're considering removing peevee from your life. That's definately a step in the right direction. Desoxy is most certainly not!
MDPV_Psychosis
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I need to remove all from my life but can't or won't until the time is right. I will heed your warning with much regard as I'm one to carefully consider everything as much as possible before making such decisions.
Are you saying it is unlikely to be able to use desoxy in moderation as an aid as opposed to recreational use (won't allow myself to do so and will flush if needed). I am a veteran pv user and have developed some techniques as well as a system for making sure I keep things in check (I'd be a fool to say I can keep things under control at all times with pv even though I have managed to learn how to keep it under control more times than not).
Are you saying it is unlikely to be able to use desoxy in moderation as an aid as opposed to recreational use (won't allow myself to do so and will flush if needed). I am a veteran pv user and have developed some techniques as well as a system for making sure I keep things in check (I'd be a fool to say I can keep things under control at all times with pv even though I have managed to learn how to keep it under control more times than not).
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I don't think either of the main MDPV impurities are responsible for any effects, they are I believe inactive (alkylphenones + pyrrolidine). Most MDPV is usually 98%+ pure, so if you take a 10mg dose to start (Which I believe is on the high side), you'll only be getting 200mics of that stuff, and I doubt it's as powerful as LSD. My guess as to why the first vape is speedier would be that you are doing more in that first hit than the next ones. If you wanted to test that theory you could vape less than half the amount you normally would after having vaped a normal amount and put that blob to one side for later.
FlippingTop
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oh no I am pretty positive it feels different, you should try it some time. I sometimes heat it a little bit to begin with until it reddens slightly. When vaping in a lightbulb the differenc eis a lot more pronounced as none burns and it is a gradual change from yellow -> red.
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I think everyone is speculating about active degradation/pyrolysis byproducts. IIRC this has been the topic of a lot of speculation before and during the SM process debate. A lot of folks who seemed to know chem appeared to have a lot of theories about what could conceivably be going on as the MDPV molecule is abused and heated. My favorite theories were the ones that seemed to be leaning towards some sort of competely different beast than we might expect - some sort of peptide targeting the melanocortin receptors or the like - something fundamental to sexual arousal. I am far too ignorant to have the slightest idea whether this is possible or just a peevee fantasy - but it was an exciting prospect. One way or another - this speculation about degradation or vaping producing more interesting byproduct drugs has been going on for a few years I think.....
I'm just hoping you all figure it out soon before my cock follows my brain into second childhood.......
btw some scientists in this thread have full pm inboxes....
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FlippingTop
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Maybe the theat beaks down the MDPV molecule to a perfect 50/50% split between pure testosterone and semen which somehow penetrate the BBB and trigger hyperdrive in ur pants.
Sounds legit to me and it would make sence both of the effects and the smell?
Sounds legit to me and it would make sence both of the effects and the smell?
Tomorrow i will pick up my mdpv after 4 weeks with none, cant wait! From two different vendors. I used to order from one aug-des 2011 (the one i fell in love with) then i had to change source because four sendings were stopped and i never got any. The second vendor i used from then till now didn't have that good MDPV i thought... There were some differences in color and effect as well. But it was both mdpv thugh, it is impossible not to know if you got peevee or an other chemical. Seems the second PV was worse on the paranoia, jitteryness, bruxism and tension. That will be fun to experiment with 
Really hope i don't overdo it this time... It can get really bad, hope the bedbugs stays under the bed
Really hope i don't overdo it this time... It can get really bad, hope the bedbugs stays under the bed
Poodles!
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I've never been a huge fan of PV as it's always been too edgy for me and just gave me a couple of hours of anxiety. That was until I read more into this thread and decided I had to try vaping. I was pleasantly surprised by how it actually felt pretty euphoric was and somehow less edgy. Odd consider the faster onset and quicker come down.
Usually I vape small amounts at a time quite quickly and never really taken much notice of the colour. Earlier I tried heating slowly till it turned a lovely deep red colour. Vaping this seemed to come build more slowly, not much of a rush. There may have been a tiny bit of anxiety for about a minute, but It was an excited anxious rather than a dirty, jittery kind of anxious.
The whole experience was the complete opposite to what I'd come to expect from, say taking a line. It was smoother, and seemed to last longer. Colours were brighter too, something which I usually associate with serotonin releasers and low dose psyches. Some of this could have been due to lingering JWH-1220 from the day before being potentiated by the PV, but I didn't really do that much and it had been nearly 10 hours...
Yeah, Sounds about right... :D
Usually I vape small amounts at a time quite quickly and never really taken much notice of the colour. Earlier I tried heating slowly till it turned a lovely deep red colour. Vaping this seemed to come build more slowly, not much of a rush. There may have been a tiny bit of anxiety for about a minute, but It was an excited anxious rather than a dirty, jittery kind of anxious.
The whole experience was the complete opposite to what I'd come to expect from, say taking a line. It was smoother, and seemed to last longer. Colours were brighter too, something which I usually associate with serotonin releasers and low dose psyches. Some of this could have been due to lingering JWH-1220 from the day before being potentiated by the PV, but I didn't really do that much and it had been nearly 10 hours...
Yeah, Sounds about right... :D
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