RCs MDPV high: Is this all there is?

[GwackyG]

I first began using MDPV about 5 months ago after looking for a stim to wake me up and hopefully find some euphoria. I usually would snort little few mg bumps, and yes it woke me up and gave me an overall pleasant feeling.

My tolerance built, and I had to snort more and more to active the same feeling, but finding any euphoria was escaping me. After 4 months or so I put it away, I wasn't getting much out of it and was too scared to do higher doses ( we've all read the stories).

Recently, I pulled it outta retirement and decided to try the vaporization route, still in search of that elusive dopamine euphoria. After a few hack inducing attempts, I realized how I was burning the substance and learned to vape it properly off the foil w/o burning. Slight euphoria, much stimulation.

I would inhale about 3-5 mg's each session, maybe a few hits worth. I'm reluctant to smoke higher amounts in search of the euphoria.

Is there indeed more to this high than what I'm getting? I would hate to keep trying to reach a mental state that doesn't exist, harming myself in the process.

Any input would be appreciated. (especially yours Dedbeet- yes I read all your PV posts Lol)

 

[psychopath]

Chemicals effect everyone in a different way. Your body chemistry or something (scientific...) could possibly just not agree/properly metabolize etc. with this substance.

 

[Dedbeet]

I can't give you the answer, GwackyG... not only 'dopamine euphoria' but all drug effects are utterly subjective. There are in fact some people who get really sick and puke from 4 or 5 percocets instead of euphoric/blissy. U will have to figure out for urself whether you like MDPV's effects or not... the words "euphoria" or "pleasure" mean nothing. Only your actual subjective experiences.

Suffice it to say that some people find MDPV very euphoric, at least some of the time. It's a "real" drug/stimulant (i.e. not like ephedrine or caffeine, but affecting the brain chemicals that matter).

Beyond that, you'll have to decide for yourself.

Peace...

 

[GwackyG]

Yeah u guys are both right, everyone reacts differently to substances. I think I will stick to my lowish doses and just enjoy it for what it is, not what I want it to be.

Thanks.

 

[Dedbeet]

Yeah u guys are both right, everyone reacts differently to substances.

What's weird is that it's almost kinda hard to believe, cuz no one ever reacts to anything but the way they do themselves . But yeah, not only everyone reacts differently, but sometimes very differently from high to high.

I'd say just give PV a chance, go with whatever it's offering... it definitely has surprises in store, IMO/IME. Even a different using pattern (for example, using often/low dose instead of rarely/high dose) can be *majorly* different.

Fwiw, I find the difference in highs between 'smoking/vaping' and 'sniffing PV dissolved in water' to be *enormous*. Might as well be a different drug. In fact if I do both, it feels like I'm on two different drugs.

Peace...

 

[GwackyG]

Yup I noticed the difference between snorting and vaping, really odd. Vaping certainly gives more pleasurable feelings than snorting which is much of a solely stimulated feeling. I stopped about 3 hours ago, gonna attempt sleep in about an hour. Wish me luck.

 

[psychopath]

I stopped about 3 hours ago, gonna attempt sleep in about an hour. Wish me luck.

Good Luck. Hope you aren't counting sheep all night.

 

[Dedbeet]

Yup I noticed the difference between snorting and vaping, really odd. Vaping certainly gives more pleasurable feelings than snorting which is much of a solely stimulated feeling.

Agreed, *however*... snorting small amounts, fairly frequently, and once your blood levels are up and steady the "sexual effects" tend to come on bigtime. And that is by far the most euphoric aspect of PV, if/when they start coming on.

Not to mention "sick, depraved and animalistic", in the best possible way .

I stopped about 3 hours ago, gonna attempt sleep in about an hour. Wish me luck.

Got any left? If so, I won't waste my breath . If not, g'luck . (just kidding on 'not wasting my breath', provided sleep looks more attractive than what's left of the PV).

 

[eatface4life]

I wouldnt say that that is all there is, Ive tried snorting, smoking, and injection/rectal administration and the vien is by far the greatest euphoria comes in a big ass wave just like smoking it lasts, same for rectal. If that doesnt float your boat I can say that I safely vaped 10mg piles at once on foil without bad side effects and sleep was succesfull without other drugs (everyone is different; use a candle not a lighter to vape on foil) and i found the this to be a big difference in my normal 5mg piles. just make sure your lungs are clear. goodluck

 

[Dedbeet]

MDPV routes of administration

I wouldnt say that that is all there is, Ive tried snorting, smoking, and injection/rectal administration and the vien is by far the greatest euphoria comes in a big ass wave just like smoking it lasts, same for rectal.

The major difference in the various ROA's, IME, is how quickly the effects come on (which equates to 'rush', and also to potential addictiveness).

The quickest ROA's are smoking and slamming/IV'ing, and that applies to most drugs. You can have a large amount hit you very suddenly, thus feeling a rush. It will also be more addictive via these ROA's, both in the short/binge and long terms.

Smoking is wasteful -- it burns a lot of drug that never gets into your system, even if you do it carefully. You'll go through your supply VERY fast when smoking it. It also subjects you to toxic byproducts, which are *not* a myth... you'll taste them from time to time and gag, I guarantee it. However, it's the quickest/most potent ("rush-iest") ROA, short of IV'ing... you can get large amounts of substance into your body very quickly. Watch it, as too many big hits too close together can send you into panic/anxiety, delerium or psychosis.

IV'ing (slamming) is both the most conservative (amount-wise) and the fastest-acting (rush/high-wise). A purist will insist on this method. However, it is the riskiest route of administration, as it's never safe to put anything directly into your bloodstream. The bloodstream was not designed to have anything introduced into it directly, and IV'ing is risky even under sterile medical conditions, with the substance administered by a physician. You can't take it back, either... whatever you put in, it's in.

Intranasal and rectal are also pretty quick -- in particular, intranasal (snorting) is probably the least wasteful way to use the drug, short of IV'ing.... your supply of MDPV will likely last the longest when you use it intranasally. Dissolving it in some water first and administering it via a vaporizer can be helpful in terms of exact dosing, as long as you don't dissolve large amounts (keep it to 50-100mg at a time max), since MDPV tends to break down fairly fast in solution. The drug will be absorbed rapidly through the nasal mucosa, and what isn't will be swallowed and absorbed in the stomach/intestines.

Rectal (plugging) is interesting, and can be a convenient one-off dosing method, provided you're comfortable with it. But it's really no better than intranasal, IME, and probably not as good. You don't need to bypass first-pass metabolism, particularly if you're using intranasally. It can also be potentially wasteful, depending on the condition of the inside of your rectum.

Oral administration (eating it) is often the worst ROA, despite its popularity. Not only does it take a long time to come on, but can be wasteful due to incomplete oral bioavailability. However, the resulting high can be the most stable and predictable.

In short -- If "big rushes" are the most important, I'd go for smoking/vaping. If conserving product is the most important, I'd go for snorting/intranasal. If both are the most important, I'd go for IV'ing/slamming.

Peace...

 

[GwackyG]

Surprisingly enough, sleep was easy. I'm feeling fine at work, which leads me to believe I kept my doses to a reasonable amount.

Maybe later I'll try a sniffed/smoked combo (within reason of course) and see what happens. As far as IVing goes, that's just not for me. Never done it, prob never will.

 

[f13nd]

This drug doesn't sound that much different than methamphetamine. The roas seem to yield the same desirable benefits as well as limitations. Id like to try mdpv though, as long as its a better high than methylphenidate id probably enjoy it

 

[Dedbeet]

This drug doesn't sound that much different than methamphetamine. The roas seem to yield the same desirable benefits as well as limitations. Id like to try mdpv though, as long as its a better high than methylphenidate id probably enjoy it

A one-off dose of MDPV is nothing that special, IMO/IME. It's basically a fiend-fest when used more frequently/at higher doses.

There's not much in between those two extremes with MDPV, which seems to catch people off-guard/by surprise. You'll use it and it'll be OK, fine, whatever (or find it tweaky and dislikeable), unless/until you abuse it and it becomes a mad voyage into your own mind. Beware. Most return, but not all do. If you end up mixing it with opiates, heavy drinking or tons of benzos, using it really carelessly...

If you end up using it long-term and heavily, to the neglect of proper rest/food/sleep... (?)...

Think it over before you do a dopaminergic stimulant, even once... self-control is not guaranteed. You don't even get a plastic stamper with "Self-control courtesy of Tickle Me Elmo" on it.

 

[Cyc]

I find this stuff works best in my nightly, candle-lit bath, where I take a calming, effervescent soak.

 

[Dedbeet]

I find this stuff works best in my nightly, candle-lit bath, where I take a calming, effervescent soak.

Ahh yes, the world-famous 'bath salts' .

Just like the greek sea... when it's full of sharks, pollution, riptides and hurricanes, and you don't know how to swim .