MDMA Recovery (Stories & Support)

[pmz]

I don't think we should discuss this further in this thread, but maybe we could start one in the Neuroscience and Pharmacology Discussion board. The only new studies I mentioned was retrospective studies of current and past MDMA users. I can link it to you in a PM if you want, won't link it in this thread.

Exacly. Ive seen threads get crazy with this argument. Its get no one anywhere. The fact is, why, makes no difference what so ever. Its how to heal is the only think you should spend your energy on
I used to think "i need to know why i have this so i know the proper way to adress it" but from everything ive tried nothing helps as much as adressing healing the mind.

Let it go and just live

 

[Tom9212121]

Hey guys need some advice, basically Iv only done mdma on three occasions, and after the last time I did it (1 month ago) I felt like death! I had the week hangover from it and eventually I did feel a little better, but after a month all of a sudden I feel terrible. I'm getting the worst headaches and I do feel very anxious! Of course I'm never touching the stuff again as this has scared me too much but would this horrible feeling go away? Or is this purely me just over thinking things and sending myself mad? Any advice would be grateful

 

[Tom9212121]

Hey guys need some advice, basically Iv only done mdma on three occasions, and after the last time I did it (1 month ago) I felt like death! I had the week hangover from it and eventually I did feel a little better, but after a month all of a sudden I feel terrible. I'm getting the worst headaches and I do feel very anxious! Of course I'm never touching the stuff again as this has scared me too much but would this horrible feeling go away? Or is this purely me just over thinking things and sending myself mad? Any advice would be grateful

 

[pmz]

Hey guys need some advice, basically Iv only done mdma on three occasions, and after the last time I did it (1 month ago) I felt like death! I had the week hangover from it and eventually I did feel a little better, but after a month all of a sudden I feel terrible. I'm getting the worst headaches and I do feel very anxious! Of course I'm never touching the stuff again as this has scared me too much but would this horrible feeling go away? Or is this purely me just over thinking things and sending myself mad? Any advice would be grateful

Im just gonna say this...... UGHHHHHHHHHH. Dude, this is a abuse recovery success story thread. Have you even read the posts here? Yes, you will recover in time. When? no one knows. There is way too that was already said in the thread to start re-saying things. Please, Im not trying to be a dick, go and read this thread from the beginning. There is alot of helpful advice already here.

All im gonna say, is 1 month? You might be in for a long ride. This could take a year + to reside. Read this thread and learn to relax as best as you can, then after you read every post on this thread. Never return to bluelight until you have recovered. Reading a billion threads and asking a million questions will only make your condition worse. Its tied into anxiety. Its no brain damage. The drug caused a chemical imbalance that caused anxiety, not anxiety is causing other severe symptoms. NOT BRAIN DAMAGE

 

[sadkid]

not saying what I took, but ill say im getting better

 

[pmz]

not saying what I took, but ill say im getting better

you know you are gonna say it eventually, why dont you just fess up now. Its not like we know you and will judge. Why even post this then?

 

[sadkid]

Hmmm... That makes sense

 

[sadkid]

question: if you come into contact with the drug that you were addicted to and you felt that if you touched it you would end up shoving it down your throat and you had nothing else to do but stare at it, what would you do?

 

[pmz]

question: if you come into contact with the drug that you were addicted to and you felt that if you touched it you would end up shoving it down your throat and you had nothing else to do but stare at it, what would you do?

Are you looking for justification to use again if you were to come into contact with said drug again by asking if other people would use it.

Personally i wont answer this question. I see right through this.

Why dont you avoid situations what would put you in conctact with it for a while.

My opinion on addiction, you are not powerless over a drug. You are making a choice to injest it. So empower your self by actively making a choice to not touch it. Why would you let your self get close enougg to a drug to even shove it down your throat?!

You know the answers to your own questions. Please dont ask if its ok to use.

Ive dealt with alot of friends in addiction in the past year. The choice is all yours. You can either submit to addiction or empower yourself over it.

 

[Badroll7]

Sad kid what did you take bro? This is the wrong forum to be ashamed and worried about being judged Let it all out so we'll be able to help you better and give you advice

 

[sadkid]

methamphetamine, crack cocaine, LSD, and opium

 

[sadkid]

Are you looking for justification to use again if you were to come into contact with said drug again by asking if other people would use it.

Personally i wont answer this question. I see right through this.

Why dont you avoid situations what would put you in conctact with it for a while.

My opinion on addiction, you are not powerless over a drug. You are making a choice to injest it. So empower your self by actively making a choice to not touch it. Why would you let your self get close enougg to a drug to even shove it down your throat?!

You know the answers to your own questions. Please dont ask if its ok to use.

Ive dealt with alot of friends in addiction in the past year. The choice is all yours. You can either submit to addiction or empower yourself over it.

wonderfull train of thought, that just might be the most helpful thing I have heard so far.

 

[pmz]

methamphetamine, crack cocaine, LSD, and opium

Im surprised to not see heroin in the list. Its the worst I guess. I could be like, Huffing glue, or something else.

wonderfull train of thought, that just might be the most helpful thing I have heard so far.

Its what we are here for.

Be kind to your self...

Oh and learn to meditate regularly......

 

[sadkid]

Ha. heroin is my friend, not me

 

[PJ2]

So, I thought I would give a positive update in here and the recipe I've figured out to get me to this point.

For the last few days, I've been about as close to "normal" as possible. In fact, I've mostly forgotten what I've been going through recently. I've got my fingers crossed that this is completely over or close to it, but I've had some very minor issues so it's not quite complete yet.

Here's the formula for my recovery:

1. Absolutely no drugs, no caffeine, and no alcohol.
2. Exercise - preferably running and lots of it. I've run every day for the last week for a minimum of an hour at the gym. Running until you are tired has been proven to stimulate healing in the brain. Of course, this is also good for anxiety and depression as well.
3. Eat healthy - although I don't think this has to be extreme. Have an occasional pizza or desert or whatever. It's not going to set you back at all although I would be more strict if you are going through the initial what I like to call "acute" phase. Eggs, Walnuts, Fish, Steak, Whole Grains, Fruits, Veggies - you know the drill. And, drink lots of water!!!
4. Vitamins - For the past week, I take a scoop of Green's First powder in the morning and drink it in a cup of water. It's pretty good actually and 10x better than any daily vitamin. In addition, I take on a daily basis 5-HTP (Doctor's Choice Brand - quality is much higher IMO) 2/3x, Krill Oil 1x, B-6 (vitally important) 1x, brain food called Jarrow's Neuro Optimizer 3/4x daily, and some vitamin C 1/2x.

That's been my regimen for the past week and, at times, I felt better than I did before. The third day into this new regimen is when I woke up and kept waiting for most of my symptoms to start-in and they never did. It was just the prior week I felt so fragile and sickly still. Then the head pressure, anxiety, fogginess etc. - just disappeared!

I won't declare myself fully recovered until I have zero symptoms for a decent period of time, but, put it this way, I could live my life feeling the way I have for most of this past week. I could even work productively. So, I am certainly more hopeful than I've been that I will be just fine!!!

 

[Delfin]

So, I thought I would give a positive update in here and the recipe I've figured out to get me to this point.

For the last few days, I've been about as close to "normal" as possible. In fact, I've mostly forgotten what I've been going through recently. I've got my fingers crossed that this is completely over or close to it, but I've had some very minor issues so it's not quite complete yet.

Here's the formula for my recovery:

1. Absolutely no drugs, no caffeine, and no alcohol.
2. Exercise - preferably running and lots of it. I've run every day for the last week for a minimum of an hour at the gym. Running until you are tired has been proven to stimulate healing in the brain. Of course, this is also good for anxiety and depression as well.
3. Eat healthy - although I don't think this has to be extreme. Have an occasional pizza or desert or whatever. It's not going to set you back at all although I would be more strict if you are going through the initial what I like to call "acute" phase. Eggs, Walnuts, Fish, Steak, Whole Grains, Fruits, Veggies - you know the drill. And, drink lots of water!!!
4. Vitamins - For the past week, I take a scoop of Green's First powder in the morning and drink it in a cup of water. It's pretty good actually and 10x better than any daily vitamin. In addition, I take on a daily basis 5-HTP (Doctor's Choice Brand - quality is much higher IMO) 2/3x, Krill Oil 1x, B-6 (vitally important) 1x, brain food called Jarrow's Neuro Optimizer 3/4x daily, and some vitamin C 1/2x.

That's been my regimen for the past week and, at times, I felt better than I did before. The third day into this new regimen is when I woke up and kept waiting for most of my symptoms to start-in and they never did. It was just the prior week I felt so fragile and sickly still. Then the head pressure, anxiety, fogginess etc. - just disappeared!

I won't declare myself fully recovered until I have zero symptoms for a decent period of time, but, put it this way, I could live my life feeling the way I have for most of this past week. I could even work productively. So, I am certainly more hopeful than I've been that I will be just fine!!!

Wow, thats really great news What kind of symptoms are you still experiencing? And for how long has your comedown been going on now? also, have you only been doing the supplements for 1 week?

Anyways, keep up the god work! Even if you experience a setback, just continue what you are doing, its very common to experience fluctations. But hopefully you're soon out of it!

 

[PJ2]

Thank you! I'm at 10 weeks today. I've been doing a majority of my supplements for only a week, yes. The last one I added was B-6 and I could really tell how crucial it was to feeling better. It's important in the metabolism of amino acids and 5-HTP.

I was working out a little and taking some vitamins previously, but I really stepped it up this past week. I was tired of feeling so bad and needed to try something.

For the past 3/4 days, my symptoms have been almost non-existent. I would say very slight head pressure rarely. I have a habit of rubbing my temples now bc my head has been so tight all these weeks that my temples just hurt like hell when I do rub them. I do that now and my cranial muscles feel relaxed and normal. I've had no anxiety, but I've had a couple of instances where I thought anxiety was coming if you know what I mean. It never did. And, the only other symptom I've felt at all is insomnia, but I have to say I was having problems with insomnia before this all happened. This just made it 10x worse.

My cognitive abilities have been 100%. It's fluctuated previously, but every time I thought I was at 100% I really was still slightly off. That is the only way I can describe it. Lately, like I said, I think so clearly or as clearly as I used to - lol - that I have actually stopped thinking about this whole ordeal for hours at a time, which is probably healing unto itself.

Yeah, I am under no delusions that I am completely out of the woods so to speak, but I see the light at the end of the tunnel now. I would put my overall percentage at 98 or 99% with large parts of the day at 100%. I don't know how dependent I am on everything I'm doing either. So, if I stop taking all these supplements or running every day, will I still feel as good? Those are things I am going to have to figure out eventually too! But, those are healthy things anyway so it wouldn't be the end of the world to have to do them daily for the foreseeable future. I could easily end up healthier than I was before!

 

[hennybb]

So your tinnitus went away? If so did you do something to help it or did it go away on its own?

 

[ro4eva]

I've been dealing with tinnitus for several years now. And it can be incredibly annoying, especially if it's "loud" enough to constantly distract me from whatever it is that I'm doing. I even had trouble falling asleep at first because of it.

For me, I'd wager that the tinnitus I feel is due to mainly two things:
- hypertension from stress, use of certain Rx meds and other drugs, high sodium intake, etc.
- use of low dose Acetylsalicylic Acid (Aspirin) to thin out my blood

It comes and goes in waves, and it lasts from as little as a few minutes to a few days.

At first, it used to drive me crazy. I tried various DIY home remedies to see if I could get it to stop, but no luck. I even went to the doctor, as tinnitus may also be a symptom of an ear infection, or impacted earwax due to poor ear hygiene. The doc said my ears were in good shape and very clean, which at the time added to my frustration.

Anyways, I find it's not a problem if I stop taking the Aspirin and my blood pressure isn't high.

MDMA use can also indirectly cause tinnitus, as an average recreational dose usually causes a moderate increase in blood pressure.

Obviously, if you suffer from severe hypertension, it's probably not a very good idea to use MDMA, regardless of whether you are on BP meds. From a harm reduction standpoint, it would probably (at least IME) be a better idea to put your pills/capsules/powder/shards into proper storage, and take some time to try and get into better shape, which should lower your blood pressure and strengthen your cardiovascular system. The massive, star-studded raves will continue.

 

[zebrafish]

If the tinnitus isn't being caused by an inner ear problem, such as Meniere's disease or vestibular neuronitis, then I think the tinnitus is directly caused by the MDMA altering serotonergic inhibitory mechanisms in the prefrontal cortex of the brain. I think this loss of inhibitory mechanisms in the prefrontal cortex is also what is responsible for the feeling of "being able to hear your heartbeat" reported in some MDMA users. These inhibitory circuits in the prefrontal cortex serve to tune out certain ambient elements.

There are several people on the internet proposing the use of MDMA as a possible treatment for tinnitus. Morever, some patients have been successfully treated with SSRIs. This suggests that increased serotonin outflow in the prefrontal cortex via these drugs can augment these inhibitory functions, whereas conversely, chronically depleted serotonin, as in MDMA abuse, can cause the tinnitus via loss of these inhibitory functions.

This is all in theory so far. However, if this were unilateral tinnitus, then I would consider inner ear problems or ototoxic medications such as certain antibiotics (aminoglycosides). If this were pulsatile tinnitus, then I would consider hypertension as a cause or cerebrovascular problems such as a dural arteriovenous fistula.

But MDMA users tend to experience a bilateral, non-pulsatile, high-frequency buzzing/hissing noise that seems to be coming not from their ears, but within their head. True, other medications can cause this, such as beta-blockers for hypertension. But in the absence of taking those kinds of medications, I would put my money on MDMA causing the tinnitus via damage/alterations of these systems in the prefrontal cortex.