MDMA makes me stoned as fuck

[chris_p]

Last time I ever took MDMA it was in an 'ecstasy' tablet bought at a barbershop and I had no real clue what was in it. I remember extreme stimulation and euphoria. Now I got some powder which I've tested to be pure MDMA, I took 100mg this afternoon and it was like a full body orgasm while glued to my chair. I had sudden bouts of energy and would sometimes stand up but for the most part it was like a powerful opioid nod with extreme bodily euphoria. And that was on just 100mg. Is real MDMA far less stimulating than 'ecstasy' tablets and has anyone else experienced similar?

 

[Shinji Ikari]

Have you come across this absolute car crash or a thread yet? Enter at your own risk.

Pills can take longer to kick in depending on how firmly pressed they are. And it could have been anything if you didn't test it, but theoretically MDMA in a pill should affect you identically to pure crystal MDMA if the dose is the same.

Edit: just wanted to add 100mg is a lowish dose unless you're very skinny and also I've never found MDMA to be nearly as physically stimulating as say amphetamine or any cathinone, so your recent experience doesn't sound unusual for a low dose of MDMA imo.

 

[chris_p]

Have you come across this absolute car crash or a thread yet? Enter at your own risk.

Pills can take longer to kick in depending on how firmly pressed they are. And it could have been anything if you didn't test it, but theoretically MDMA in a pill should affect you identically to pure crystal MDMA if the dose is the same.

Edit: just wanted to add 100mg is a lowish dose unless you're very skinny and also I've never found MDMA to be nearly as physically stimulating as say amphetamine or any cathinone, so your recent experience doesn't sound unusual for a low dose of MDMA imo.

It took about half an hour to kick in, to me it did not feel low whatsoever like I was absolutely floored I could not operate whatsoever. It became extremely stimulating right after the peak wore off. I'm 70kgs so it shouldn't be that crazy of a dose, the capsules were really tiny and filled about 20% of the way with a pure white powder. The euphoria was really off the charts, it was almost unnatural, it felt like the serotonin was being drained from my brain, I actually started getting worried over how intense the feeling was. I'll probably take a short break before swallowing the other 2 pills...

 

[Didgital]

felt like the serotonin was being drained from my brain

That's MDMA for ya.

I think pills are much more likely to have adulterants/additives such as caffeine or stimulants vs the raw crystal. That's why I'm not really on team pressie. If I want some caffeine with my MDMA I'll take it separately.

Pure MDMA I have been so relaxed during my roll that I have literally fallen asleep. Not kidding. Side note, the same does not apply to MDA.

MDMA is strange though, because it can also help me dance for hours. I think set/setting is what determines if an MDMA experience is going to be "exciting" or "relaxing".

Disclaimer* I have had crystal mdma that has some amount of speed in it so being crystal doesn't necessarily mean it's pure MDMA.

 

[Didgital]

I know if I'm tired (let's say at a music festival) and I take MDMA in the hopes of regaining some energy, 9 out of 10 times, it makes me even more tired (and likely to head back to camp.)

 

[chris_p]

I know if I'm tired (let's say at a music festival) and I take MDMA in the hopes of regaining some energy, 9 out of 10 times, it makes me even more tired (and likely to head back to camp.)

I was already feeling quite tired before taking it (went for a long hike right before). Still feeling very euphoric, was expecting a really shitty crash, I'm surprised

That's MDMA for ya.

I think pills are much more likely to have adulterants/additives such as caffeine or stimulants vs the raw crystal. That's why I'm not really on team pressie. If I want some caffeine with my MDMA I'll take it separately.

Pure MDMA I have been so relaxed during my roll that I have literally fallen asleep. Not kidding. Side note, the same does not apply to MDA.

MDMA is strange though, because it can also help me dance for hours. I think set/setting is what determines if an MDMA experience is going to be "exciting" or "relaxing".

Disclaimer* I have had crystal mdma that has some amount of speed in it so being crystal doesn't necessarily mean it's pure MDMA.

Yea I was alone and took one pill as a 'test' lmao I was really in for a surprise. Luckily I was able to sleep really easily after 5-6 hours. I felt really wired while lying in bed but before I knew it was 6 am, actually think this shit might be useful for insomnia. MDA concentrations might have an effect?

Also to note it didn't look crystal at all. It was like really powdery and pure white

 

[Didgital]

MDA concentrations might have an effect?

I doubt it. I suspect you were simply after glowing from an amazing mdma experience. MDA is generally less common and therefore more expensive, so it is not frequetly encountered as an adulterant in MDMA afaik...

Yay!!! Mdma is amazing.

 

[chris_p]

Lost to my self control and took 200 mg double the dose as last). Holy fuck. I can't describe it. I was immediately hit by MASSIVE confusion and started getting a bit anxious, then immediately I started feeling orgasming over every single sense in my body. My ears especially. I can't believe I'm saying it but it felt like an 'auditory' orgasm' like the music was PHYSICALLY penetrating my auditory vagina like the sound ascended the barriers of what sound is capable of and PHYSICALLY penetrating me like a bodily sensation coming from the center of your head, like the deadcenter you can pin the feeling almost like its pointing to the pineal gland.. I felt intense euphoria in every internal sense within my body too. I felt euphoria OUTSIDE of MY BODY because my sense that creates a 3d mad of the world around me started orgasming. And I would feel it far outside of my body, as it felt like literally ever single part of my brain capable of processing was being injected with serotonin and the sensation feels REALLY familiar and I honestly have no idea why. It feels so primal and innate. Like the deepest sensory only part of our soul... This shit is crazy. This might be the last time I buy and take molly for another year. Is this EXTREMELY pure MDMA (it looks like a white powder, unidentified) or some other crazy research chemical? The whole time I was rather unable to move and not especially stimulated I just sat down, listened to music stood up a few times to smoke weed while listening to music. Music was so physically orgasmic I can not explain it. I feel like every single person on Earth needs to experience it. It feels like the deepest truest most divine part of our soul which holds no memory or ego but is pure sensory divine. Feels so primal and ancient I can't describe it. I've seen that shit eternity amounts infinity times over but this is my first experience with this dose. The extreme deja vu like this is real eternity this is what we actually are just a sensory inputter with no control or access to the immatterial, everything you do is prechosen by fate, but it doesn't matter to you, you don't actually move the pieces or act, you are just the strange consciousness that feels it. All the thoughts, all the heavy lifting, all the pain, all the decisions you thought in your head, are just pure 'sense'. You are not making these or choosing them. You are simply 'sensing' what something material is doing. It's the ying and yang. They need eachother to exist. The material realm allows the 'sensosry realm' to sense. And an material only universe.. Well we wouldn't have wanted to have that for ourselves would you ?

 

[chris_p]

Also what are the 'senses' being felt outside of our human minds? Every single energy state made is possibly exterting a sensory conscious sensation, at what scale is unknown but 'pure' conscious conjoins to be 100% pure and feels every assortment of itself in the immaterium all at once without time in an infinite pin prick needle of infinite conscious sensation.

 

[chris_p]

I think dying is the most awesome event im ever gonna have.. Thanks MDMA

 

[chris_p]

Lost to my self control and took 200 mg double the dose as last). Holy fuck. I can't describe it. I was immediately hit by MASSIVE confusion and started getting a bit anxious, then immediately I started feeling orgasming over every single sense in my body. My ears especially. I can't believe I'm saying it but it felt like an 'auditory' orgasm' like the music was PHYSICALLY penetrating my auditory vagina like the sound ascended the barriers of what sound is capable of and PHYSICALLY penetrating me like a bodily sensation coming from the center of your head, like the deadcenter you can pin the feeling almost like its pointing to the pineal gland.. I felt intense euphoria in every internal sense within my body too. I felt euphoria OUTSIDE of MY BODY because my sense that creates a 3d mad of the world around me started orgasming. And I would feel it far outside of my body, as it felt like literally ever single part of my brain capable of processing was being injected with serotonin and the sensation feels REALLY familiar and I honestly have no idea why. It feels so primal and innate. Like the deepest sensory only part of our soul... This shit is crazy. This might be the last time I buy and take molly for another year. Is this EXTREMELY pure MDMA (it looks like a white powder, unidentified) or some other crazy research chemical? The whole time I was rather unable to move and not especially stimulated I just sat down, listened to music stood up a few times to smoke weed while listening to music. Music was so physically orgasmic I can not explain it. I feel like every single person on Earth needs to experience it. It feels like the deepest truest most divine part of our soul which holds no memory or ego but is pure sensory divine. Feels so primal and ancient I can't describe it. I've seen that shit eternity amounts infinity times over but this is my first experience with this dose. The extreme deja vu like this is real eternity this is what we actually are just a sensory inputter with no control or access to the immatterial, everything you do is prechosen by fate, but it doesn't matter to you, you don't actually move the pieces or act, you are just the strange consciousness that feels it. All the thoughts, all the heavy lifting, all the pain, all the decisions you thought in your head, are just pure 'sense'. You are not making these or choosing them. You are simply 'sensing' what something material is doing. It's the ying and yang. They need eachother to exist. The material realm allows the 'sensosry realm' to sense. And an material only universe.. Well we wouldn't have wanted to have that for ourselves would you ?

Also to note the 'observers' in quantum physics i believe just literal consciousness sensing something that is material. Unconscious existence allows the conscious to feel, conscious existence 'feels' this everything that exists energtically. Base electrons may even be able to generate conscious sense (or observance) from its energetical transfer. But do note that unlike with our prebuilt brains that only a sense limited view inside a box this sensory is all connected as one, a Monad, a single consciousness of infinite size we are a part of, feeling literally everything happening in reality constantly as observation. Your own thoughts, and memory are actual curses. Binding chains. Being free of short term memory felt extremely euphoric in its own right. Definitely won't forget this experience

 

[Innerpeace]

Come on, 200 mgs mdma. Unless its impure, 225 had @Innerpeace in and out of conciousness, eyes rolling back, then drifting off almost unconcious, then back again. No one with weak mental discipline belongs doing this. Many years ago I didnt know about spacing rolls or dosing and suffered massive negative effects. thirty rolls in about six months. Took two years for cognitive abilities to recover where could think for myself , so to speak

Please dont keep abusing mdma. You thinking dying is the most awesome event your going to have thanks to mdma. Mdma is a luxury. Like the many broke people who food through doordash, look like shit, yet wont go to grocery store, buy healthy foods, potatoes, pasta meats, veggies, fruit, and save $ , they keep ordering junk bc theyre lazy. Youre being lazy. Patience you need, said in the voice of Yoda. Mental discpline as equally much, if not more. One bad apple has a negative effect, and makes people think this pathetic crackhead behavior is okay. please do better

 

[chris_p]

Come on, 200 mgs mdma. Unless its impure, 225 had @Innerpeace in and out of conciousness, eyes rolling back, then drifting off almost unconcious, then back again. No one with weak mental discipline belongs doing this. Many years ago I didnt know about spacing rolls or dosing and suffered massive negative effects. thirty rolls in about six months. Took two years for cognitive abilities to recover where could think for myself , so to speak

Please dont keep abusing mdma. You thinking dying is the most awesome event your going to have thanks to mdma. Mdma is a luxury. Like the many broke people who food through doordash, look like shit, yet wont go to grocery store, buy healthy foods, potatoes, pasta meats, veggies, fruit, and save $ , they keep ordering junk bc theyre lazy. Youre being lazy. Patience you need, said in the voice of Yoda. Mental discpline as equally much, if not more. One bad apple has a negative effect, and makes people think this pathetic crackhead behavior is okay. please do better

In my mind I had 300mg which wasnt a lot compared to what some of my brit friends take, so I didn't believe it would harm me in the long term to finish it over two days, but the second dose of 200mg really made me fucking lose it. Dunno why since the first experience was really enjoyable and I still held myself pretty well. The second roll went straight to psychosis and complete memory failure like I spent 5 minutes trying to light my bong with a vape before realizing what I was doing. Couldn't hold a thought for any longer than three seconds. When the peak ended I started going fucking nuts like deep delirium and psychosis, I'm glad I didn't have any more or I would've taken it, this shit really feels dangerous.. I'm starting to doubt what I took was 200mg or MDMA at all, it felt like a fucking fever dream

 

[Shinji Ikari]

300mg which wasnt a lot compared to what some of my brit friends take

The club and rave scene in the UK has a uniquely fucked up relationship with MDMA and these doses really shouldn't be emulated. 2mg per KG is a sensible ceiling. It's all diminishing returns past that anyway. You only have so much serotonin to work with.

 

[chris_p]

The club and rave scene in the UK has a uniquely fucked up relationship with MDMA and these doses really shouldn't be emulated. 2mg per KG is a sensible ceiling. It's all diminishing returns past that anyway. You only have so much serotonin to work with.

True but I've always thought I could handle it since I've had 6g mushroom trips and smoked DMT many times without serious incident. The effect I experienced on both these rolls were definitely felt stronger than anything I've ever taken in my life. There really is no describing how powerful MDMA is in high doses and the capacity it has to fuck you up nine ways to sunday. I haven't felt a crash as of yet but I have a throbbing headache and my memory still feels absolutely fucked, honestly hoping it isn't permanent, the fact that I'm still feeling much better than usual is a bit worrying. I can only imagine how bad the crash is gonna be

 

[Innerpeace]

@chris_p how you doing man?

Did the comedown come..I found positive and negative events on and after high doses empathogen use is super amplified .

If something amazing happens it feels more amazing, even in the next few days while still in system. Unfortunately, the opposite is true is something is upsetting, sad, it's super upsetting and super sad. It's kind of a mirror of how our reality is and what we need to change it . Further, ups and downs happen to anyone

If you need to smoke some weed to help or CBD cannabis , or even a lil stimulate like small dose is okay. Kratom can help in this crucial 1-10 days after way too high and or abused empathogen use to get back to homeostasis ASAP so you can get on the path to healing

Do not take passion flower high ecgc content or 5 htp, anything that works on serotonin, Kanna, or an moi inhibitor which prolong healing,all these mixed causes serotonin syndrome for myself and took ten days for the negative effects to be gone

Sorry to be a preacher bc I'm not but you need to take a long long break for all empathogens. Next time use standard doses . Maps.org has good research on dosing 120 mgs or less for MDMA. Do as you wish and glad you learned a highly valuable lesson here

 

[chris_p]

@chris_p how you doing man?

Did the comedown come..I found positive and negative events on and after high doses empathogen use is super amplified .

If something amazing happens it feels more amazing, even in the next few days while still in system. Unfortunately, the opposite is true is something is upsetting, sad, it's super upsetting and super sad. It's kind of a mirror of how our reality is and what we need to change it . Further, ups and downs happen to anyone

If you need to smoke some weed to help or CBD cannabis , or even a lil stimulate like small dose is okay. Kratom can help in this crucial 1-10 days after way too high and or abused empathogen use to get back to homeostasis ASAP so you can get on the path to healing

Do not take passion flower high ecgc content or 5 htp, anything that works on serotonin, Kanna, or an moi inhibitor which prolong healing,all these mixed causes serotonin syndrome for myself and took ten days for the negative effects to be gone

Sorry to be a preacher bc I'm not but you need to take a long long break for all empathogens. Next time use standard doses . Maps.org has good research on dosing 120 mgs or less for MDMA. Do as you wish and glad you learned a highly valuable lesson here

I've had zero negative comedown so far. Feeling much better than usual still, though with some minor headaches and body aches. I've been waiting for the crash to happen but nothing so far. Still just feels like a really clean 'afterglow' and it's been about six days. Mentally feel somewhat all over the place and memory is still a bit scattered, I was expecting depression but I feel much better than usual outside of the physical side effects. Right now just trying my hardest to resist buying more, the lack of any real worrying side effects is making this especially difficult

 

[Innerpeace]

I've had zero negative comedown so far. Feeling much better than usual still, though with some minor headaches and body aches. I've been waiting for the crash to happen but nothing so far. Still just feels like a really clean 'afterglow' and it's been about six days. Mentally feel somewhat all over the place and memory is still a bit scattered, I was expecting depression but I feel much better than usual outside of the physical side effects. Right now just trying my hardest to resist buying more, the lack of any real worrying side effects is making this especially difficult

You may be in a genetic group of people that dont seem to be nearly as effected than someone as I seem to be, at least from high empathogeon use expirience. Are you generally cool as a cumcumber or very and a lot easygoing? have low stress and a low stressful job, lifestyle?

I feel its further than this, that the choices you make, and how calm and neurotic a person is, is a big reason why some people crash and burn and others not so much. Im happy you feel better at this human expirience we call life, six days afterwards, that it enhanced life for you

I feel constantly being in flight or flight, reaction to outside stresses, having the stresses, or imaging the stresses, as many people stress over what may happen, yet most of these things done happen, and it causes fight or flight for those in the habit of reviewing in their mind negative things that can happen causes a contant fight or flight, and this has to be addressed. Make no mistake lifestyle, high stress lifestyle and job can not always be cool as a cumcumber, even with someone super cool. It more than likely takes removing or lessening these stresses and minimizing stress reactions. When there s people to help, including yourself, and $ to be made its not always possible to cut back on everything. Somethings can be reduced though. As someone said, medical drugs can help. Smoking cannabis thc and cbd seems to help by calming . Im not in a position to do thc much , smoking cbd cannabis does seem to help for @Innerpeace , because its some of the other hundred or so cannaboids that help. Im glad you're getting along well

 

[chris_p]

I feel constantly being in flight or flight, reaction to outside stresses, having the stresses, or imaging the stresses, as many people stress over what may happen, yet most of these things done happen, and it causes fight or flight for those in the habit of reviewing in their mind negative things that can happen causes a contant fight or flight, and this has to be addressed. Make no mistake lifestyle, high stress lifestyle and job can not always be cool as a cumcumber, even with someone super cool.

Yea I do get those to a degree. Mostly heavy mood swings between happiness/panic, if I'm focused on something I feel fine, if my mind is left to wander I start thinking about disturbing existential shit, I'm like this normally but it seems way more intense than it usually is, but I can easily snap out of it by focusing my mind somewhere else. Both sides of the coin feel greater. Not sure if I like it or not, but if I keep myself busy it's not all that bad

You may be in a genetic group of people that dont seem to be nearly as effected than someone as I seem to be, at least from high empathogeon use expirience. Are you generally cool as a cumcumber or very and a lot easygoing? have low stress and a low stressful job, lifestyle?

Someone said this to me a while back, although I'm not too sure if genetics are what causes it, I may have had a significant healthy build up of serotonin in my brain since I had not used a serotonin depleting drug in a very long time and my brain likely had a good enough store of it built up to not cause a noticeable withdrawal, or maybe I'm just too busy to realize I'm fucked up, not sure

When there s people to help, including yourself, and $ to be made its not always possible to cut back on everything.

Very true, I'm always kicking back kratom pills and smoking weed whenever I have free time available. Medical drugs like antidepressants have never really helped me and I've been on quite a few, weed + kratom combo seems to get me through most of the troubles. Not really in the position to be able to pick between high cbd and high thc strains so whatever I can get works for me. I've never really been able to 'feel' pure CBD myself

 

[Littana]

just gotta say comparing drugs and thinking u can take some other drug cos u taken some other..... nope....

also... abusing mdma will bite back.... that kinda dosing is just asking for trouble