hi hope this is the right forum to post this, just wanted to share my experience over the past few
days
First things first, i'm not an experneiced drug user, my first time was back in november and for a week afterwards i felt like i had been hit with a demolition ball. After some research i realised this
was from a bad combo of E and caffeine (4 fairly weak pills and about 1200mg caffeine).
Anyway, tuesday was to be my second time on E and i was looking forward to it, not a "cant wait" sort of mood just something to look forward to after xmas. We had 1g of MDMA which we split into 10 capsules, i had 3, mate 1 (we'll call him R) had 3, mate 2 (lets call him P), had 4. P got 2g of
ketamine in the club which was shared out between about 5-6 of us.
Me and R dropped the first cap of MDMA at about 11 and after about 30mins noticed the come-up was much smoother and enjoyable than last time, it wasnt a "are we up yet? are we up yet? BAM dancing everywhere" experience. It was much better and we could already tell this was to be a good night.
We already decided not to have any caffeine after realising we the bad effects it causes and the fact that we wouldn't need any (i tell a lie, i snorted a small line at about 7pm cos i was feeling tired).
We we're up fully at about 12:30 and it felt great, the high felt so pure and clean, unlike the previous time where even thought we we're loving it, it just felt a bit dirty and messy (not the best description i know but its the best i can come up with right now).
We dropped another cap about 1 and went down to the main dancefloor to meet P and his friends, he offered me and R a few bumps of ket, over i had 1 and R had 2. The next few hours are a bit
patchy but i'll do my best. Until 6 me and R had the 3rd (last) cap of MDMA and pete had his last 2.
We all had some more ketamine, i felt great, huge amounts of energy and when i stood still i felt like i was dreaming and floaty (the perfect k experience for me, i should have stopped there) P told me he had had too much K, but i knew he was experienced and knew how to keep it all under control, but R was gone, he kept telling me to drink water over and over again, and kept telling me to put my phone away (was taking pictures) i was a bit worried about him at this point because stopped taking any bumps when the effects were right for me and i could tell i would like the disoccativeness if it got any worse.
It wasnt until i wrote a garbled message similar to "yove hd 2 muhc k" and showed it to him that he realised what was going on, and he later thanked me beacude he was pretty worred at that point.
When the club closed at 6 we had a quick chat with a guy who had been on MDMA and headed for the afterparty. P got me and R 3 pills (which we believer were these http://www.ecstasydata.org/viewtablet.php?ID=944 ) and i had 1 and R had half and gave me half (he was still very disconnected from reality and was seemingly obsessed with me enjoying myself so gave me half a pill.)
I reckon the period from 7-8am was the best for me, i had had about another bump of ket and had massive amounts of energy and was dancing around in my own little world for about an hour, it was when i sat down to take a breather that i started getting horrible visual distortions and paranioa.
Closed eye visuals were cartoon like and quite enjoyable, but when i tried to look at peoples faces they all looked very old, the DJ was a bloke in his mid 20's, but until i got right up close and looked at him, he looked like a woman in her 60's. Soon after time seemed to slow right down, i would look up and everything was in slow motion (this was quite good fun, and would do K again just for that) but everyones faces started to deform and melt in front of me. Eyes, ears, noses etc were all re-arragnged and deformed, this really, really scared me (probably because i've had closed eye visuals similar but nowhere near as intense for as long as i can remember and they freak me out).
I suddenly snapped at the guy sitting next to me thinking he was offering me something, he was on K too but i still felt as if i had pissed him off.
Not long after for a period of about 10 seconds everyone was looking at me with their deformed heads and talking to me, i was in my own little world but everyone was intruding . Luckily this didnt last long and soon after we headed home.
The walk back was quite good fun actually, the hallucinations of peoples faces being all fucked-up had gone. I checked this by staring at people walking past, 3 guys staggering around with huge dilated pupils constantly twitching and snapping at noises that weren't actually there must have freaked people out, and i got a sort of morbid happiness from this. Your average joes living their
dull lives while i had just experienced things from pure and ultimate happiness, to terror and boundless energy made me feel superior in some way, i know i wasnt but it just felt good.
We got back to P's place, he had returned about half an hour earlier and was in bed. Me and R sat down and watched some simpsons, which was very strange indeed. The characters just looked like some scribbles with talking dubbed over the top, you could connect with it all (yes i know they are just drawings with voices but i'm sure you know what i mean
). At this point R went to sleep.
Because everyone else had taken more K than me i was the only one awake, and i knew from the first time i done MDMA get incredibly scared and paranoid being on my own for the day after. I tried to get some sleep but i was still buzzing and i couldnt rest my eyes at all (they kept moving to look straight ahead, i knew this was one of the side affects of MDMA so i wasnt too worried).
I noticed the Christmas decorations hanging of the wall were slowly moving (they were rows of gold beads hung up in semicircles, they looked like they were getting wider and shorter, then narrower and taller), i was pretty sure this was because of the K and hoped it would go away within a few hours.
I went up and sat on P's computer for a bit reading a few forums and couldn't help but notice the posters on the walls were tilting left to right, again i was pretty sure this was because of the K and that it would go away soon.
Soon after i went to lie in bed and after a restless hour or so i remember suddenly waking up, so i presume i got an hour or so of sleep into there somewhere.
Over the next few hours i was walking downstairs to see if R was ok (i knew he was, just as i mentioned a few paragraphs ago during the come down from MDMA i hate to be alone).
I could slowly feel myself coming down, very slowly felt more relaxed with the odd small rush here and there (not sure why, it was nowhere near intense as the night before, like you get when you think of something you really enjoy). I woke R up at about 6, telling him that he should really stay awake til normal bed-time or it'd mess up his sleeping rhythm.
From then til 1am we watched a load of TV and had a bite to eat, P came down and we all sat and watched Trainspotting (which made me feel a lot better) I felt very relaxed and calm because i was in the company of friends and not alone.
After the film we all went up to bed, i wasnt looking forward to this because i still had no desire to sleep (i'm now pretty sure i'm one of these guys who cant get to sleep for a good 15-18 hours after the last dose of MDMA). I got in bed and started getting CEV's of melting faces, at this point i was terrified, i had no reason to be but R had said earlier than if i felt bad to go in with him, so i took my sheets and went to sleep on his floor, as soon as i was in the company of someone i know and trust the CEV's dissapeared and i soon got to sleep.
Woke up at about 7am and dozed until 11:40am. Lounged around for a bit then drove home.
That night (last night) i felt very depressed and irritable, which was to be expected and i'm glad my mum (who knows what i'd done, she wasn't annoyed just worried) covered for me and told my grandparents i was tired. Last night i had a few nasty dreams but none of the CEV's i usually get which was nice and when i did sleep i slept like a baby.
This morning i feel better, the mild auditory "whoosing" hallicinations had gone and even thought i was still very down i felt a lot, lot better than last time (just to reiterate, caffiene and MDMA is BAD)
Still got very minor visual distortions, surfaces appear to breathe very slightly if i stare at them, not enough to annoy me i have to stare at them for a few seconds), hopefully this will have gone in a few days
To summarise, i enjoyed MDMA and K very much and would say getting hold of MDMA and some gel caps is much better than pills. Not too sure if i'll take as much K as last time, when the balance was right i felt incredible, and the dreamyness and time distortion were great, but i really didnt like the visuals and hallucinations.
Sorry if i've rambled just wanted to let people know about my experience (as i said before i'm not very experienced at all so if any of what i've said is nonsense feel free to correct me)
days
First things first, i'm not an experneiced drug user, my first time was back in november and for a week afterwards i felt like i had been hit with a demolition ball. After some research i realised this
was from a bad combo of E and caffeine (4 fairly weak pills and about 1200mg caffeine).
Anyway, tuesday was to be my second time on E and i was looking forward to it, not a "cant wait" sort of mood just something to look forward to after xmas. We had 1g of MDMA which we split into 10 capsules, i had 3, mate 1 (we'll call him R) had 3, mate 2 (lets call him P), had 4. P got 2g of
ketamine in the club which was shared out between about 5-6 of us.
Me and R dropped the first cap of MDMA at about 11 and after about 30mins noticed the come-up was much smoother and enjoyable than last time, it wasnt a "are we up yet? are we up yet? BAM dancing everywhere" experience. It was much better and we could already tell this was to be a good night.
We already decided not to have any caffeine after realising we the bad effects it causes and the fact that we wouldn't need any (i tell a lie, i snorted a small line at about 7pm cos i was feeling tired).
We we're up fully at about 12:30 and it felt great, the high felt so pure and clean, unlike the previous time where even thought we we're loving it, it just felt a bit dirty and messy (not the best description i know but its the best i can come up with right now).
We dropped another cap about 1 and went down to the main dancefloor to meet P and his friends, he offered me and R a few bumps of ket, over i had 1 and R had 2. The next few hours are a bit
patchy but i'll do my best. Until 6 me and R had the 3rd (last) cap of MDMA and pete had his last 2.
We all had some more ketamine, i felt great, huge amounts of energy and when i stood still i felt like i was dreaming and floaty (the perfect k experience for me, i should have stopped there) P told me he had had too much K, but i knew he was experienced and knew how to keep it all under control, but R was gone, he kept telling me to drink water over and over again, and kept telling me to put my phone away (was taking pictures) i was a bit worried about him at this point because stopped taking any bumps when the effects were right for me and i could tell i would like the disoccativeness if it got any worse.
It wasnt until i wrote a garbled message similar to "yove hd 2 muhc k" and showed it to him that he realised what was going on, and he later thanked me beacude he was pretty worred at that point.
When the club closed at 6 we had a quick chat with a guy who had been on MDMA and headed for the afterparty. P got me and R 3 pills (which we believer were these http://www.ecstasydata.org/viewtablet.php?ID=944 ) and i had 1 and R had half and gave me half (he was still very disconnected from reality and was seemingly obsessed with me enjoying myself so gave me half a pill.)
I reckon the period from 7-8am was the best for me, i had had about another bump of ket and had massive amounts of energy and was dancing around in my own little world for about an hour, it was when i sat down to take a breather that i started getting horrible visual distortions and paranioa.
Closed eye visuals were cartoon like and quite enjoyable, but when i tried to look at peoples faces they all looked very old, the DJ was a bloke in his mid 20's, but until i got right up close and looked at him, he looked like a woman in her 60's. Soon after time seemed to slow right down, i would look up and everything was in slow motion (this was quite good fun, and would do K again just for that) but everyones faces started to deform and melt in front of me. Eyes, ears, noses etc were all re-arragnged and deformed, this really, really scared me (probably because i've had closed eye visuals similar but nowhere near as intense for as long as i can remember and they freak me out).
I suddenly snapped at the guy sitting next to me thinking he was offering me something, he was on K too but i still felt as if i had pissed him off.
Not long after for a period of about 10 seconds everyone was looking at me with their deformed heads and talking to me, i was in my own little world but everyone was intruding . Luckily this didnt last long and soon after we headed home.
The walk back was quite good fun actually, the hallucinations of peoples faces being all fucked-up had gone. I checked this by staring at people walking past, 3 guys staggering around with huge dilated pupils constantly twitching and snapping at noises that weren't actually there must have freaked people out, and i got a sort of morbid happiness from this. Your average joes living their
dull lives while i had just experienced things from pure and ultimate happiness, to terror and boundless energy made me feel superior in some way, i know i wasnt but it just felt good.
We got back to P's place, he had returned about half an hour earlier and was in bed. Me and R sat down and watched some simpsons, which was very strange indeed. The characters just looked like some scribbles with talking dubbed over the top, you could connect with it all (yes i know they are just drawings with voices but i'm sure you know what i mean
). At this point R went to sleep.Because everyone else had taken more K than me i was the only one awake, and i knew from the first time i done MDMA get incredibly scared and paranoid being on my own for the day after. I tried to get some sleep but i was still buzzing and i couldnt rest my eyes at all (they kept moving to look straight ahead, i knew this was one of the side affects of MDMA so i wasnt too worried).
I noticed the Christmas decorations hanging of the wall were slowly moving (they were rows of gold beads hung up in semicircles, they looked like they were getting wider and shorter, then narrower and taller), i was pretty sure this was because of the K and hoped it would go away within a few hours.
I went up and sat on P's computer for a bit reading a few forums and couldn't help but notice the posters on the walls were tilting left to right, again i was pretty sure this was because of the K and that it would go away soon.
Soon after i went to lie in bed and after a restless hour or so i remember suddenly waking up, so i presume i got an hour or so of sleep into there somewhere.
Over the next few hours i was walking downstairs to see if R was ok (i knew he was, just as i mentioned a few paragraphs ago during the come down from MDMA i hate to be alone).
I could slowly feel myself coming down, very slowly felt more relaxed with the odd small rush here and there (not sure why, it was nowhere near intense as the night before, like you get when you think of something you really enjoy). I woke R up at about 6, telling him that he should really stay awake til normal bed-time or it'd mess up his sleeping rhythm.
From then til 1am we watched a load of TV and had a bite to eat, P came down and we all sat and watched Trainspotting (which made me feel a lot better) I felt very relaxed and calm because i was in the company of friends and not alone.
After the film we all went up to bed, i wasnt looking forward to this because i still had no desire to sleep (i'm now pretty sure i'm one of these guys who cant get to sleep for a good 15-18 hours after the last dose of MDMA). I got in bed and started getting CEV's of melting faces, at this point i was terrified, i had no reason to be but R had said earlier than if i felt bad to go in with him, so i took my sheets and went to sleep on his floor, as soon as i was in the company of someone i know and trust the CEV's dissapeared and i soon got to sleep.
Woke up at about 7am and dozed until 11:40am. Lounged around for a bit then drove home.
That night (last night) i felt very depressed and irritable, which was to be expected and i'm glad my mum (who knows what i'd done, she wasn't annoyed just worried) covered for me and told my grandparents i was tired. Last night i had a few nasty dreams but none of the CEV's i usually get which was nice and when i did sleep i slept like a baby.
This morning i feel better, the mild auditory "whoosing" hallicinations had gone and even thought i was still very down i felt a lot, lot better than last time (just to reiterate, caffiene and MDMA is BAD
)Still got very minor visual distortions, surfaces appear to breathe very slightly if i stare at them, not enough to annoy me i have to stare at them for a few seconds), hopefully this will have gone in a few days
To summarise, i enjoyed MDMA and K very much and would say getting hold of MDMA and some gel caps is much better than pills. Not too sure if i'll take as much K as last time, when the balance was right i felt incredible, and the dreamyness and time distortion were great, but i really didnt like the visuals and hallucinations.
Sorry if i've rambled just wanted to let people know about my experience (as i said before i'm not very experienced at all so if any of what i've said is nonsense feel free to correct me
)
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