1-4B semi exp, alcohol-exp, MDMA exp, I was lucky, this could have been worse
This is not an occasion I am proud of, I usually pride myself on my harm minimisation, this was an accident that I am not going to repeat, I just wanted to share what being on 1-4B and alcohol feels like.
2pm went to a wedding, had 2 glasses of wine over a two hour period, enough to feel relaxed, but nothing more.
10:30pm arrived at the rave, as I was feeling tired I had a redbull and vodka, I usually do not have any alcohol at an event, and I think this is what caught me out.
12:00pm took my first pill (bacardi bat) this was the first time in a while that I had taken anything at an event and it was nice, although I spent more time talking to people before I dropped and started peaking.
approx 2am We came home from the event as my partner (D) was feeling anxious about being in a large room full of people, a friend (A) came with us. D was on MDMA, A was just "ride sharing" (feeling the effects of other people's pill)
I took another whole pill at approx 3am, and then remembered I had 20mls of 1-4B remaining. Usually I only have a dose of 12-15 mls of this concentration, but as it was all that was left I took it all.
Now my perception of time gets even worse at this point, it feels like only about an hour passed for the rest of this bit, but it may have been up to 2-3 hours.
Soon after I had the 1-4B I started to get very chatty (possibly the pill or
1-4B) and then sleepy. I kept closing my eyes for what felt like a brief second, and waking up when D told me to. He started to get a bit concerned and told me that I couldn't fall asleep, that I had to stay awake.
I really tried, I would be talking, then just close my eyes for a second and be asleep instantly.
At this point D realised what had happened (ie bigger dose of 1-4B than ever before AND the vodka approx 4 1/2 hours ago) and started to get worried, but he managed to keep it out of his voice, so although I realised what I had done, I did not get stressed by it.
Eventually D decided that I had to move to keep myself awake, so I got ready to go out, I fell asleep putting on my socks, putting on my shoes, got easily sidetracked, was a bit wonky when I stood up and walked. (my balance was like I was on K)
Eventually I ran out the front door, sort of knowing that D and A would look after me. They caught up to me and we went for a walk. This was one of the strangest experiences for me, I would be mid step, mid sentance and fall asleep. I now know what narcaleptics feel like I think.
I would fall asleep, then after i had been woken up (while still walking, I did not actually fall down even once!) I would remember what I had been saying just before I was asleep like a dream, and sometimes be able to continue my thread of conversation (othertimes I know I was just rambling on
)
I was not scared at all, I felt great, from the pill and the 1-4B, I also knew that it was not something I would ever do again so I did try to experience it as much as possible.
We walked around the block, for what seemed like 30min, but couldn't have been more than about 10 minutes I think.
As we were coming home, I tried my hardest to stay focused, walk in a straight line, and not fall asleep. I walked along a curb trying to stay on it and awake. I managed about 10 steps, then stumbled, then fell asleep. It was a bit scary that even though I was using ALL the will power I had to stay awake and focused, I just couldn't do it.
After we came home I had a good conversation with A, with him waking me up every so often, I was still feeling great, then the sleepiness started to wear off and I just felt happy and relaxed again.
I say again that this was an accident, while the experience itself was not unpleasant at all (enjoyable even I admit) there is no way that I will ever try to repeat this. This was on just one shot of vodka and a reasonably small dose of 1-4B, I can see how this combination could be used effectively as a "Date-rape" drug. I just could not stop myself from falling asleep, and sometimes I had lost memory of what had happened in the last few minutes, if I had not had friends with me I would have ended up in an unrousable sleep/coma. That is a sobering thought.
This is not an occasion I am proud of, I usually pride myself on my harm minimisation, this was an accident that I am not going to repeat, I just wanted to share what being on 1-4B and alcohol feels like.
2pm went to a wedding, had 2 glasses of wine over a two hour period, enough to feel relaxed, but nothing more.
10:30pm arrived at the rave, as I was feeling tired I had a redbull and vodka, I usually do not have any alcohol at an event, and I think this is what caught me out.
12:00pm took my first pill (bacardi bat) this was the first time in a while that I had taken anything at an event and it was nice, although I spent more time talking to people before I dropped and started peaking.
approx 2am We came home from the event as my partner (D) was feeling anxious about being in a large room full of people, a friend (A) came with us. D was on MDMA, A was just "ride sharing" (feeling the effects of other people's pill)
I took another whole pill at approx 3am, and then remembered I had 20mls of 1-4B remaining. Usually I only have a dose of 12-15 mls of this concentration, but as it was all that was left I took it all.
Now my perception of time gets even worse at this point, it feels like only about an hour passed for the rest of this bit, but it may have been up to 2-3 hours.
Soon after I had the 1-4B I started to get very chatty (possibly the pill or
1-4B) and then sleepy. I kept closing my eyes for what felt like a brief second, and waking up when D told me to. He started to get a bit concerned and told me that I couldn't fall asleep, that I had to stay awake.
I really tried, I would be talking, then just close my eyes for a second and be asleep instantly.
At this point D realised what had happened (ie bigger dose of 1-4B than ever before AND the vodka approx 4 1/2 hours ago) and started to get worried, but he managed to keep it out of his voice, so although I realised what I had done, I did not get stressed by it.
Eventually D decided that I had to move to keep myself awake, so I got ready to go out, I fell asleep putting on my socks, putting on my shoes, got easily sidetracked, was a bit wonky when I stood up and walked. (my balance was like I was on K)
Eventually I ran out the front door, sort of knowing that D and A would look after me. They caught up to me and we went for a walk. This was one of the strangest experiences for me, I would be mid step, mid sentance and fall asleep. I now know what narcaleptics feel like I think.
I would fall asleep, then after i had been woken up (while still walking, I did not actually fall down even once!) I would remember what I had been saying just before I was asleep like a dream, and sometimes be able to continue my thread of conversation (othertimes I know I was just rambling on
)I was not scared at all, I felt great, from the pill and the 1-4B, I also knew that it was not something I would ever do again so I did try to experience it as much as possible.
We walked around the block, for what seemed like 30min, but couldn't have been more than about 10 minutes I think.
As we were coming home, I tried my hardest to stay focused, walk in a straight line, and not fall asleep. I walked along a curb trying to stay on it and awake. I managed about 10 steps, then stumbled, then fell asleep. It was a bit scary that even though I was using ALL the will power I had to stay awake and focused, I just couldn't do it.
After we came home I had a good conversation with A, with him waking me up every so often, I was still feeling great, then the sleepiness started to wear off and I just felt happy and relaxed again.
I say again that this was an accident, while the experience itself was not unpleasant at all (enjoyable even I admit) there is no way that I will ever try to repeat this. This was on just one shot of vodka and a reasonably small dose of 1-4B, I can see how this combination could be used effectively as a "Date-rape" drug. I just could not stop myself from falling asleep, and sometimes I had lost memory of what had happened in the last few minutes, if I had not had friends with me I would have ended up in an unrousable sleep/coma. That is a sobering thought.
