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MDMA, Cannabis, Cocaine, Amphetamines - Experienced - A Bad X-perience

KratZ

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MDMA,Weed,Coke,Speed - Experienced - A Bad X-perience

Hi Folks,
This is a long post, but i really need some advice/help. Maybe the story will interest some of you, or maybe it might relate to something youve experienced. Either way i'd be interested to see your responses...
I started taking drugs about 5-6 months ago and up until recently ive been out dropping at least twice a week, every week since then. Normally ill do between 2/4 a night. This in itself is fairly silly but ive been coping ok, plenty of vitamins and rest etc.
Last week i went out to Slinky on friday night, dropped 4 pills and went to an afterparty at my dealers place. When we got there we partied on all night and continued to take more drugs. It got to about 11am the next day and i counted up what i had done and it came to a total of:
10 1/2 pills (pink @'s)
2 lines of base
2 lines of coke
approx 12 spliffs 2 bongs
Didnt get any sleep that night, was up missioning about all day and went out again that night, only took 2 pills had a pretty bad evening didnt get home to sleep until 10am on sunday.
Woke up sunday evening feeling refreshed had a shower and went back into my room. It was empty. This was all i could think. I was alone with nobody around me. I couldnt stop thinking negative thoughts and i didnt want to be alone. So i called some of my friends up and we decided to meet up for a smoke to chill out.
Ony my way over to meet them my car broke down and i was very angry and annoyed so i left my car and got a taxi over to the house and i took some coke when i got there to cheer myself up. Had a smoke and everything was ok.
Got a couple of hours sleep and was woken by my mobile ringing. It was the garage, they had picked the car up and told me that someone had smashed the window and nicked all my stereo gear and cd's. That depressed me even more, didnt go to work and took some more base to keep myself going my mates cheered me up and things were cool.
Evening came and there was another party. Same story, took about 4 elephants and copious lines of coke/base. chilled out the next day and went back to work wednesday. Felt a bit depressed/tired on thursday but i went out anyway, took 1 armani and had the best night ive had in a long time. I was amazed at how euphoric it was.
Was fine on friday. Went to see Judge Jules at Slinky, took 3 armanis, the night was crap and i went back to a party. The girl ive been madly in love with but not realised for the past 5 years came with me and i had to sit and watch as one of my 'friends' pulled her, took more coke and base didnt get any sleep felt as low as i possibly could and thought maybe a bong would get me laughing again. Damn could i ever have been more wrong...
Took the bong. Sat back down and after about 5 minutes i felt very uneasy and my mouth dried right out. Had to get some water so i drank some water and went outside to get some fresh air. Mistake number 2.
As soon as i went outside i had what i can only explain as a "paranoia attack". Every single thing i did, before i was physically able to do it i had to think through in my head. But as soon as i started thinking about anything i could only think of the negative effects of what i wanted to do would have on me. Even thinking about walking around i could only think about the negative things, what if i fall over? what if someone sees me? Things like that. Its hard to explain.
I was scared.
I realised the only way this was going to stop was if i got back into the house and into bed to sleep it off. What if they think im a freak? What if im going crazy? What if i die? Was all i could think of.
Eventually i plucked up the courage(or maybe the drugs were wearing off) and went back into the house, sat down on the bed. relaxed a bit and the whole thing was over.
2 and a half hours spent stood in the garden and it was the most scary time i have EVER experienced. There arent words that can describe how i felt. I was still paranoid for the rest of the day but i was strong enough to sort of fight off the paranoid thoughts and realise that it was just the drugs talking.
I realise that the amount of drugs i took over the last week was rather stupid so i dont need any lectures.
The only reason i can see for me experienceing the paranoia attack is the number of chemicals combined with the mental stress i was suffering from watching the girl who im absolutely head over heels in love with being hit on by someone right in my face, coupled with the lack of sleep?
I know people will say "you need a break", "you need to see a doctor" but in reality most of the people i know are high every day and ive never seen anyone experience what i did...
i dont really have a question to ask anyone about it, i just needed to tell someone who would understand about what happened to me.
Thats my story, any thoughts would be interesting to read.
Thanks for your time.
S
[ 29 August 2002: Message edited by: masheadatronic ]
 
It's stress, and honestly lack of sleep.
That will happen to me if I go for more than 2 days with no sleep. Except it gets scarier...like I feel like im 'fake', like im in a dream and not really 'there'. It sucks, I hate it, and after it happened 3 times, i figured out it was from not sleeping. Ever since then I make SURE I sleep, and Ive been fine.
 
I would have thought the bad trip had more to do with you hoovering huge quantities of various drugs, and not dealing with the underlying problems and issues of your life. If you are not happy when you start taking drugs, doing more and avoiding them aint a solution....
my 0.02 c
 
I enjoyed reading your post but sorry to hear about your bad experience. I can't offer any insight beyond what you wrote in your own post, but maybe try meditation to think about things. Good luck, bro!
 
Do you expect to be normal after the ridiculous amounts of e you ate over that week. Some people are seriously really fucking stupid I have come to believe. You say dont lecture me about the amount of drugs I took, maybe someone should lecture you, because it is obvious if you did all this, you got a problem, and so do your friends probably.
 
Shut the fuck up Joseph. as a drug user you lose ALL right to cast dispersions upon other drugs users, no matter how fucked up they may seem to you.
KratZ - you have my e-mail.
Adios,
Steve
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You sure know how to help dont ya Joseph.
For what its worth i was happy when i started taking them i thinks its the fact that over the evening i was getting more and more tired and more and more jealous/upset that flipped me out.
For anyone whos interested ive now spoken to the girl in question and shes not interested but i feel happier now that i know whats going on rather than having it playing on my mind that i could be with her. Its a tough situation as shes probably also my best mate so it makes it more awkward.
Anyway cheers for the responses guys, especially Lingo, everything you said to me has all come together and makes perfect sense now..!
 
honestly, you have been taking more e than you should. I'm not trying to be judgemental, cuz I know personally what drugs can do to your mind, but you should seriously think about leaving e alone for a while...when you do it as often as you seem to have been doing it, it is no longer fun and you will feel unhappy all the time, so again, LEAVE THE E ALONE, smoke pot, chill out, don't do e for at least a month or two....
 
Actually Lingo, I feel I can say that stuff. It is IRRESPONSIBLE drug users like these that do lots of shit, flip out or something and ask what is wrong with them- that give occasional users like myself a bad name. I use e once every two or 3 months, only one pill. Acid once a month. I mean, anyone that eats such a gross(and it is gross) amount of pills in such a short span is fucked up in the head.
 
Joseph
Telling someone that they're "fucked up in the head" is neither help OR advice, what are you trying to achieve by posting such things?
 
So maybe they can go get some much needed help?? THink about your mom. If she knew you ate 10 pills in one night, how, lookin for right word here, guilty would you feel. People like this need help, and sometimes it takes the straight up truth for them to realize it.
 
i dont know what to say now...
Thanks to those that offered helpful advice, but i dont think ill bother posting in future if im gonna recieve such negative feedback.
All i wanted was to perhaps hear from someone who has experienced something simliar perhaps, not be called fucking stupid.
 
can i just say something??...
u are not a drug user...u are a major drug abuser....
i know u have mentioend that u don;t need alecture on that...but seriously u have gone way way too far...
i had a paranoia attack before and that was just simply because it was all too much and mixed between all of these chemcials....
reading your post is liek reading what my expereince was..i know EXACTLY how u feel...especiially the feeling of not knowing yourself and thought that u r just gonna die...
well i don;t wanna sounds like your mum..but be sensible on the drugs....
take what u've expereinced as a lesson ....
last word....please take care yourself and keep partying ;-P
cos it's actually quite funny to look back and think "gosh how fucked up i was" ;-P
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the feeling of nothing is important but the moment is indeed still here...enjoy to the max..
[This message has been edited by ravy1 (edited 24 October 2001).]
 
a serious amount of exctasy like that can leave anyone depressed feeling. i'm sure you know it uses up all the seretonin (however the fuck you spell it) in your brain. it's what makes you all "happy"
so when it's all used up, and in massive amounts like that, anyone will get depressed.
notice how you said you felt better after a puff or two (up until the big bong hit)...
that's b/c marijuana is like fake seretonin for the brain. it brought back a little of your low level of seretonin for the period of time you were "fucked up"
now, the last experience, the paranoi attack.... this happens to every pot smoker i know at some point. it happened to me after 4 yrs of smoking the shit...
and as everyone else said.... i'm sure it was just a combination of that, and all the chemicals!
slow it down and be safe!
peace and love
 
doesn't sound like fun buddy, good on ya for handling it...
i suggest reading up on mdma and the other drugs you've used, along with the seratonin and dopamine systems in your brain, which you've been giving a fair work out.
sites such as erowid are what you're after.
just remember... the harder you go, the harder you'll come down...
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... "wisest is he who knows that he does not know" ... "someone prove i exist" ... asparagus? ... no more asterisk for me.
 
I just wanted to jump in here in support of Joseph. The bottom line is that you need to realize that the amount of drugs you took in that short time period was just plain stupid.
We can all pussyfoot around the issue and not be judgmental, but fuck man, your brain cannot handle that kind of abuse. Are a few weekends of fun really worth a life of depression, anxiety, and other forms of brain damage?
I'm not going to criticize casual drug use. But as someone else said, you are a major drug abuser.
 
as above
i just wanna jump in support of joseph, asking why did this happen? then when people give you the answer saying you dont want those 'negative comments' shows your ignorance.
its all about harm MINIMISATION
 
Sorry to hear about your troubles, honestly I've been down that road, and still am feeling it. You got to realize that everyones body reacts differently to drugs. You see you friends high everyday and they seem okay, but that doesn't mean it is safe. Eventually everyone will hit rock bottom the way you guys are going. Please take a long break and evaluate your situation or your situation will get worse and worse each time you get high. Trust me and don't get high to escape your problems.
 
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