Okay i have heard a lot about this topic. Back in 2001 i had a very bad roll. Everything was fine for about an hour. Then it reversed on me. I thought people were out to get me. I thought people were trying to kill my roll on purpose, i thought people were talking about me behind my back... thought people were plotting on ways to hurt me. This feeling lasted about 4 hours, i was so scared it was crazy. I finally got to sleep the next day for a while. The feeling didnt come back. A friend came over and we smoked a little bit. Smoking brought this feeling back instantly !!! I mean 5 mins after i smoked i was so paranoid i didnt know what to do. Now, if i dont get enough sleep this feeling comes back still to this day. Its like i forgot how to act around people or something. And if i smoke it comes back too. If i take a benzo or something and smoke it wont happen. The point im trying to reach is this... Could that bad trip have triggered something ?? Had anyone ever had a bad trip like this? Oh and the roll i took was MDA. I had taken it 2 weeks before at a club. It was the first time i actually rolled. But the second time i took, IDK WTF happened. Has anyone ever had symtons like this before? If so, please give me some advice. Could this be called social disorder?
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augustaB
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No idea if this could be called social disorder to be honest, but I had an experience something like this on lsd and kept getting flashes afterwards. Smoking weed would lead to massive paranoia so I eventually didn't even try anymore. Speed was ok. 35 years later I tried mdma and discovered that I could enjoy weed on mdma. I also was able to put the paranoia behind me. Hope you eventually get over it.
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I can relate to your traumatic experience though. Happened to me once or twice. But not on MDA/MDMA.
I was at school one day and I snorted an unknown/branded research chemical, a super bad stim with shitty cardiac side-effects and paranoia.
After about 40 minutes after the first line and 10 minutes after the second (I was stupid enough to take a second line) I noticed my heart rate go up really fast. I had just seen a documentary the night before about people dying because their hearts blowed up from speed and I immediately started freaking out. I left the classroom and went outside. I was spinning around in circles trying to calm myself down. My heart was beating probably at 180 BPM at this point. My fingers started getting numb, feeling like many small needles were coarsing through my veins, heart was palpitating, my mouth was so dry that I couldn't talk properly. I ran out and went to find a pharmacy.. I was delirious walking down unknown streets and asking everybody if they knew a pharmacy - this was a very traumatic experience for me because of the sheer panic, I was 100% CONVINCED that I overdosed and if I couldn't get any help in 5 or so minutes my heart would blow up and I'd die on the street. An indescribable feeling of impending doom - probably what death-row inmates feel just before they get zapped in the electric chair.
I got to the pharmacy, a doctor was also there, she took my pulse (180) and called the ER. She gave me beta-blockers and I calmed down.
I was nowhere near an OD, probably.. but the substance was shit, it made me feel like I was dying.
So whenever I would go up some stairs after that, or take a jog, and my heart rate would go up I would be constantly checking my pulse and having paranoid feelings creep up on me. These went away though but I still had severe panic attacks while high on weed. As soon as my heart rate increased I'd be convinced the weed was laced with some crappy research chemical and this would kill me - caused me to panic even more - caused my heart to rise up more - caused more panic - cause more heart rate... it's a vicious circle.
Only now, 5 months after this incident have I been able to stop my panick attacks.
I did some really intense soul-searching and I got to the root of my anxiety/paranoia. Now whenever I smoke I can mentally block any paranoid/bad thoughts seconds after they pop-up in my head and successfully avoid a bad trip.
My advice to you is, try and lay off weed for 2-3 weeks or so. Do not take benzos (they cause rebound anxiety). Try and get sleep, have fun. And while you're sober try to find the root of your anxiety/paranoia and keep telling yourself that you have no reason to EVER be paranoid about these things. Do this every single day - try and meditate and re-live the experience with MDA, but this time, try and keep calm and assure yourself that you have no reason to freak out. Your brain works that way, it associates certain emotional states with trigger elements. My trigger was my heart rate going up, and my emotional state was sheer panic and feeling impending death, I had no control over it at first, no matter how hard I tried, I'd freak out while smoking weed because of the traumatic event where I ended up in hospital after my stimulant use. When I started trying to re-live the traumatic experience over and over again in my mind I would get super anxious and scared just by thinking of it. The more I thought about it though, the less traumatic it seemed. So by reflecting your past experiences, you can learn to accept them and move on - so your brain will not associate the trigger with the emotional state anymore. Now I don't get paranoid about my heart rate blowing up anymore
If you face your problems head-on, rather than run away, you will recover. Hope this helped.
I was at school one day and I snorted an unknown/branded research chemical, a super bad stim with shitty cardiac side-effects and paranoia.
After about 40 minutes after the first line and 10 minutes after the second (I was stupid enough to take a second line) I noticed my heart rate go up really fast. I had just seen a documentary the night before about people dying because their hearts blowed up from speed and I immediately started freaking out. I left the classroom and went outside. I was spinning around in circles trying to calm myself down. My heart was beating probably at 180 BPM at this point. My fingers started getting numb, feeling like many small needles were coarsing through my veins, heart was palpitating, my mouth was so dry that I couldn't talk properly. I ran out and went to find a pharmacy.. I was delirious walking down unknown streets and asking everybody if they knew a pharmacy - this was a very traumatic experience for me because of the sheer panic, I was 100% CONVINCED that I overdosed and if I couldn't get any help in 5 or so minutes my heart would blow up and I'd die on the street. An indescribable feeling of impending doom - probably what death-row inmates feel just before they get zapped in the electric chair.
I got to the pharmacy, a doctor was also there, she took my pulse (180) and called the ER. She gave me beta-blockers and I calmed down.
I was nowhere near an OD, probably.. but the substance was shit, it made me feel like I was dying.
So whenever I would go up some stairs after that, or take a jog, and my heart rate would go up I would be constantly checking my pulse and having paranoid feelings creep up on me. These went away though but I still had severe panic attacks while high on weed. As soon as my heart rate increased I'd be convinced the weed was laced with some crappy research chemical and this would kill me - caused me to panic even more - caused my heart to rise up more - caused more panic - cause more heart rate... it's a vicious circle.
Only now, 5 months after this incident have I been able to stop my panick attacks.
I did some really intense soul-searching and I got to the root of my anxiety/paranoia. Now whenever I smoke I can mentally block any paranoid/bad thoughts seconds after they pop-up in my head and successfully avoid a bad trip.
My advice to you is, try and lay off weed for 2-3 weeks or so. Do not take benzos (they cause rebound anxiety). Try and get sleep, have fun. And while you're sober try to find the root of your anxiety/paranoia and keep telling yourself that you have no reason to EVER be paranoid about these things. Do this every single day - try and meditate and re-live the experience with MDA, but this time, try and keep calm and assure yourself that you have no reason to freak out. Your brain works that way, it associates certain emotional states with trigger elements. My trigger was my heart rate going up, and my emotional state was sheer panic and feeling impending death, I had no control over it at first, no matter how hard I tried, I'd freak out while smoking weed because of the traumatic event where I ended up in hospital after my stimulant use. When I started trying to re-live the traumatic experience over and over again in my mind I would get super anxious and scared just by thinking of it. The more I thought about it though, the less traumatic it seemed. So by reflecting your past experiences, you can learn to accept them and move on - so your brain will not associate the trigger with the emotional state anymore. Now I don't get paranoid about my heart rate blowing up anymore
If you face your problems head-on, rather than run away, you will recover. Hope this helped.
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Darksidesam
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All i can say is,
From my experience of taking 150mg crystal mdma, Good Clean stuff one night,
That I suffered from a bit of anxiety and i thought people was looking at my nastily (they could have been i was mega fucked tbh)
But its important to note, that this time i took mdma, the main difference was i had become a daily toker.
Weed really adds to the anxiety of the experience.
I know this mainly from experience because the first drug i ever tried was mdma, and i didnt actually try weed for ages. I tried Ecstasy pills, Crystal mdma, cocaine and Speed/Base before i tried weed, and i never even knew what anxiety felt like before then.
I took 2 days off weed the last time i took mdma, and i only dosed 100mg, (I have a very low tolerance to mdma) and i had one of the best nights ive ever had.
From my experience of taking 150mg crystal mdma, Good Clean stuff one night,
That I suffered from a bit of anxiety and i thought people was looking at my nastily (they could have been i was mega fucked tbh)
But its important to note, that this time i took mdma, the main difference was i had become a daily toker.
Weed really adds to the anxiety of the experience.
I know this mainly from experience because the first drug i ever tried was mdma, and i didnt actually try weed for ages. I tried Ecstasy pills, Crystal mdma, cocaine and Speed/Base before i tried weed, and i never even knew what anxiety felt like before then.
I took 2 days off weed the last time i took mdma, and i only dosed 100mg, (I have a very low tolerance to mdma) and i had one of the best nights ive ever had.
Yeah^^ I really dont smoke that much. When my friend has some really good quality weed then ill smoke with him. I think it only happens when i smoke crappy stuff. But anxiety sucks.. I hate it. If i have some xanax of klons then ill smoke. Thanks for the input guys Stay Safe
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lots of people have bad reactions to drugs but if it's 11 years later and it's still seriously affecting your life you should probably seek professional assistance. the weed bringing up paranoia and feeling like you don't know how to act around people i've experienced from too much mdma over a period but its 3 months later now and mdma and weed are back to feeling nice.