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I know the feeling man. It might help to get outside though. Tomorrow's a new day.
Yeah I got outside today and it didn't really help. Time just slid by like the tides. But I guess it was better than not going out or whatever.

I still feel like crap. It's close to 1 am and I don't feel able to get sleep and I'm very hungry and I don't want to eat either. *the joys of indecision* I guess I'll make some food, watch the news and get to bed in that order. *sighhhh*

My brain/body kind of shut down a few weeks ago and I'm trying to get myself back into operation mode. I was overhauling it for a while and then, as it goes, terrible news, bereft of all joy in life through grief, and what not. Oh that tune. It never gets old.
 
Yeah I got outside today and it didn't really help. Time just slid by like the tides. But I guess it was better than not going out or whatever.

I still feel like crap. It's close to 1 am and I don't feel able to get sleep and I'm very hungry and I don't want to eat either. *the joys of indecision* I guess I'll make some food, watch the news and get to bed in that order. *sighhhh*

My brain/body kind of shut down a few weeks ago and I'm trying to get myself back into operation mode. I was overhauling it for a while and then, as it goes, terrible news, bereft of all joy in life through grief, and what not. Oh that tune. It never gets old.
At least you're sober mate. It could be worse.
 
Hi CaptainH,

Did you have good experiences with shatter/dmt? Life and death experience/insignificance of our existences relative to the greater universe, detachment from things? Did you find it therapeutic for addictions like other similar trips in that category? I am fascinated by its potential life altering properties on world view.
 
That's a good question. Shatter is actually THC extract from marijuana. If you're asking about both I wouldn't combine them (I mean I get stoned almost all the time). What I mean by that is I wouldn't do DMT smoked ever again. Basically yes I always get good experiences with THC and I'll always be doing this as much as possible probably. I might want to try quitting one day but it might seem inhumanly impossible.

DMT is quite intense. I've had positive experiences with it that were somewhat life-changing in terms of perspective and accepting reality for what it is, accepting death and what not. Coming to terms with things. I don't know if I'll ever do DMT again. Was it therapeutic for addiction? Not immediately, I continued to shoot up buprenorphine for some time after that point. It did give me hope that I didn't have to use the way I was forever? It made me see a lot of joy and beauty in the real world I wasn't seeing? I think that the last sentence makes the most sense. It makes you appreciate material life, your body, the earth, nature, a lot more. DMT is just so incredibly overpowering it takes over everything you see and experience during the trip it's quite intense. I don't know if I want to go through something like that again. I might not like it. There is probably such a thing as "too much of a good thing". It's almost impossible to dose correctly based on eyeballing it.

Stuff like LSD, methamphetamine, 2c-_ tends to make my world-view a little better, quite honestly. Those things normally "don't work" for most people for a variety of reasons so I wouldn't really recommend people get into them. LSD tends to be the most benign of those and it's just not something I hear of a lot of people doing/encountering anymore, sadly. It's also something many people don't tend to enjoy for any one of a variety of reasons. I could use it like three times a week just like 2c-_.

I'm best off taking medication, using shatter and having an occasional beer if I'm not medicating most days. I don't over-indulge on anything but shatter and that I know I will have to slow my roll on one day, more than likely.
 
Quick May update. Still sober, going on 9 months. Continuing to work a program and sponsoring other people in need. I never thought I would be at this place in my life where I turned to a 12 step program. But I can honestly say it is working for me. The yoga and meditation has definitely become an important tool to maintain my sobriety. Also I started working at a Detox in Aspen, CO. Its pretty strange to be on the other side, I once was the guy in a drug induced psychosis being thrown into to a detox all too often.
On the subject of DMT I have had wonderful transcendental experiences while on it. I "broke through," as people refer to it. I've noticed that I had the most profound experiences while smoking DMT next to a large body of water eg. lake or river. DMT seems to feed off energy and life. It can be a life changing experience if your heart and mind are open to it. Same with LSD, I support the movement 100%. Love and light so they say. I do feel that once you get the message you can hang up the phone. Or at least you perceive that you've got the message. Both DMT and LSD really are individualized experiences.

Ya know Capitan, I really do missing smoking herb. Specifically rosin, shatter, extract whatever you want to call it. For 13 years I was involved in cannabis cultivation and extract manufacture. From CO to southern OR and NORCAL. It was such a huge part of my life for so long. Currently I would like to give myself 18months of continuous sobriety and then I plan on revisiting the marijuana issue. Or that's the plan at least.

Hope everyone is doing well. Keep fighting the good fight.

Bless
 
Well, we're both still alive and have a chance to work on everything. PTSD can cause us to act out in ways we otherwise wouldn't be, so I hope you are gaining perspective and understanding along the way. I'm trying on it myself.

Took a short nap today (by short it was probably like 2 or 3 hours?) and I woke up feeling awful but I feel ok now, no alcohol or benzos for 3 days. Every time I feel like shit it's from cannabis withdrawal. No benzos/alcohol cravings, I'm just taking a break.

I am trying to get "unstuck" feeling again. I was on such a roll a few weeks ago and then I got terrible news about my friend's passing. And I just sort of fell apart again.
 
Thank you Captain H and hotfriesmmm on your views and expressions about your experiences about THC and DMT; the honesty about the input of members of this site is what I love. Day 3 of no DOC. First two days were anxiety hell. Anxiety not bad this morning nerves seem to be intact just low energy. Work later. My views about 12 step meetings are mixed. 90 meetings in first 90 days... well I missed day 2 due to overstimulated Central Nervous System. But I see the positives. They push the donations quite hard eh? But yeah, it's part of the structure to remain anonymous and I save money by not picking up my DOC.

Captain H, I'm still saddend by your recent loss. My continued condolences to everyone that he had touched in life. After the death of a family member; I've always seemed to have had a non-drug realization that Money and Status in society arn't as important as we were conditioned by society to think. That's when I would do these drastic "career changes" which mean going from a once good industry that had been corrupted over time to something I viewed as lower-paying honest work.
 
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Kpins to the rescue for me again today. How I got clean and didn't want oxy anymore last month but was so arrogant that I could start and stop as I wish after Cold Turkey on my own. Never getting cocky again. This is it. The money I have and will continue to save damnit it was a lot of fking money. NA won't agree with the science of physiology of withdrawal with me. You guys have been my sponsers without talking down to me here at BL.org Love you all Brothers and Sisters of BL!
 
^See a therapist, they can help you with that.
I should probably do that again. I don't want to though. I just feel humiliated and not cared about if I talk about my issues and I am tired of people clinically examining me like a Rubik's cube. I can't be twisted back into place, I've already tried and I'd be the one doing it.

I think it's just going to take time to get past all this. I am eating like 1/4th as much as what I was before and I think I've lost a few pounds.

These are things I don't want to talk about in real life. I don't know why. I'm very comfortable being alone almost all the time.
 
^ No therapist should make you feel humiliated. I get the, 'being clinically examined" problem. Psychotherapist's don't clinically examine; they are far more humanistic in approach.

I also, prefer being alone or in select company.

Grief takes time obviously, different for everyone but martyrdom is not grief - its guilt and most are too ashamed to express it - you are very explicit about it on here but don't talk about your feelings, this will keep you stuck in these behaviors.

Maybe you're raging at losing your partner/friend/SO (forgive me, am not sure)?

I lost a best friend a year ago, one of the loves in my life ( another friend died, suddenly the week before last) it was awful, but I have become quite numbed to the grief of late - perhaps its because I've lost a lot. I've become more comfortable with the cyclical nature of things (albeit it is still horrendous and if I was posting on another day I could be ravaged with grief)...but that's how it goes - it sneaks up on you.

I'm sorry that you lost your best friend, CH. ❤

However, no one defines us, we must carry on. Why? Because we are not them and they would mock the shit out of us if they knew we were being pussies! I know that's what my mate would say, she was a cunt at times, but a lovely one. ;)

There is no cure for bereavement but wearing it like a flag, is more to do with you, than your loved one. Wiith respect, maybe this is a time for you to help yourself rather than focus on a reason to feel sad; maybe you felt at a loss all along and it is now that you realize how empty you are/have been?
Just a concept.
~There is always a time to get out of the shit.
 
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I don't think therapists go out of their way, it is how I feel talking about the laundry list of issues. I'm a lot better with the repress and move on method. It just appears to not work too well right now. My mind is going through the ringer from all the negativity of losing him yes. I don't know if I'd call it raging. I don't know if words work really well with describing this. And yes my friend would likely mock me or just encourage me to just drink with him and feel better. That's not really healthy coping but he didn't see a point in being upset with life when you can just be drunk and merry. *shrugs* I know that's not a way to deal long-term. That's why I'm trying to take, I don't know, cold reads of my emotional temperature every now and then to see where I'm at. That's probably why I cut way back on all the drugs for a few days, even shatter, ugh. Going to resume occasional benzodiazepine use tonight more than likely.

I don't feel empty just numb. There's a lot there and I was working on myself quite a bit. Guilt is probably more what I'm feeling than anything. The mind falls into illusions of thinking it has control over reality and isn't just along for the ride. I have to ignore thoughts of what "could" have happened, what I "could" have done.
 
What you dealing with CJ? You don't have to share if you don't want to; I don't mean to pry.

Multiple things i guess. The big one is i found out my friend Aaron or aihfl as known on here passed away. He was a great guy and i am going to miss him.

I am struggling to find work. Another of my friends relapsed and got kicked out of the house i am living in.

Its one thing to know intellectually that 9/10 people relapse after rehab but its another to see it up close and personal. The house has a 100% relapse rate in the 2 months i have been here. It just makes it hard to establish friendships in a new place when there is such instability. It also brings to the surface the disgust i feel for the drug treatment industry. Putting all your hopes on some fucking spiritual voodoo and a support group is a fucking travesty. It wouldnt be accepted for any other disease or disorder but because no one gives a fuck about addicts its tolerated and even celebrated! Crazy

Then to top it off my back is fucked. I have kyphosis which is a degenerative spinal defect. It always was a cosmetic issue which sucked. Now its becoming a pain issue. Any physical exertion leaves me in agony for the next few days. My worst fear of being an opiate addict with chronic pain seems to be materializing.Its not good.
 
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