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maybe not everyone is intersted in the prospect of shooting another person.
I've never shot someone in my life, don't want to unless it's the only option, love guns.
maybe not everyone is intersted in the prospect of shooting another person.
yes. and it's not a case of i would. i do.
alasdair
i would have to defer to the fact there is a black and white outlook on home invasion by saying to defend or not defend. the details are many though.
not defending ones self is acquiescing to the invaders demands, hiding and calling the cops, running away from the house and talking things out if one is so sly with the tongue. you can always bore them to death with recordings of college professors giving lectures.
defending doesn't mean with guns alone. there is baseball bats, live replays of home alone movies, baseball bats, deadly ninja kittens, baseball bats, playing cards, baseball bats, steak knives, baseball bats, waking up your wife and telling her the guy downstairs called her fat and ugly, baseball bats and quiet honestly throwing a solid haymaker when they don't know your hiding behind the door.
there are non violent ways of defending your home too.
@alasdairm: much respect for not owning a gun and for saying what you did.
For context, a week ago, there was a 20 person home invasion a mile from me, in a nicer part of my city, AND I LIVE IN A LOW CRIME CITY ! shit happens!
maybe not everyone is intersted in the prospect of shooting another person.
JessFR said:I know what comes next, the next argument is that guns are made to shoot people whereas knives serve multiple purposes.
JessFR said:A sword isn't a knife, a sword IS made to kill people
JessFR said:Which is why I was curious to hear alasdairms perspective, although in hindsight I wish I'd asked it in PM, asking publicly was clearly a mistake.
cduggles said:"Why does CE&P have thread titles?" 8(
I can't imagine being happy if i lived in a place that was so scary (and i was so legitmately scared of home invasions) that i'd need a machine gun. Or even a handgun.
I guess i'm just accustomed to living in places that (even at their sketchiest) aren't violent or dysfunctional enough to require firearms for self defence.
Maybe this is more about societal discord and/or attempts to force rural "frontier values" onto a population/world (an urbanised world) where they are no longer really relevant.
I don't have a dog in this fight though, really. I know that it's too late for the USA to legislate effective "gun control".
But that doesnt mean that i see the love for guns as being anything other than pathological.
But it is extremely interesting to me that when obama was in power, everyone's excuse for being armed to the teeth was "to protect from government tyranny".
Now that government tyranny is the reality, people say "home invasions!"
Lol - ok![]()
But it is extremely interesting to me that when obama was in power, everyone's excuse for being armed to the teeth was "to protect from government tyranny".
Now that government tyranny is the reality, people say "home invasions!"
Lol - ok![]()
Things like this are why I'm all for assault rifles, smg's, machine guns, and what not. There are some people who deserve a fighting chance in a situation like that. Many people also have guns like this and also are totally responsible owners.
No, it's still to protect from government tyranny (make the government have at least some respect/fear for the people.) And if they start rounding people up you can defend yourself.
Ultimately it is to enable the overthrow of a hostile government, like Hitler, Mao, Stalin who made sure everyone was disarmed (but realistically if people were apt to overthrow the government it would have happened by now, such as 2008 giving our money to banks, and it really wouldn't be possible without killing/disabling the internet as the greatest surveillance tool in history)
that's a rather broad generalization, isn't it?I think people outside the U.S. can't fathom such an existence, but here guns are just part of life and we LIKE it that way.
Maybe if you've never been around firearms, they sound frightening. Most social gatherings in homes I attend these days inevitably end up with the home owner giving me a tour of their gun collection, and I legitimately enjoy it. I'm probably gonna get a firearm myself soon as I'll be away from home for months and want Mrs. Gravy to have protection, and I know a great number of folks who have been the victims of attempted home invasions.
I think people outside the U.S. can't fathom such an existence, but here guns are just part of life and we LIKE it that way. My father-in-law collects guns (I think he's well past 30 in total now), my friends are always inviting me shooting. I'm about as left as left gets around here and I'm totally okay with guns because they aren't causing any issues.
The assumption that the presence of firearms=violence is extremely misguided.