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Mass Shooting and Gun Control Megathread

has gun control ever been effective or slowed deaths? never i say death is handed out by entitled minds. how do we reprogram a nation that is fed violence and death for generations as normal? we are compassed round about by aggression and pulling the trigger as a means to an end.
how do we reprogram the minds of so many buyers?
well. idk. too late anyway. just too many angles to this ending. from all sides.
crazy shit.
 
I’m sorry but you’re not gonna disarm me over planned and propagated tragedies… You’ll have to pry my gun out of my cold dead hands the minute the citizens are disarmed from being responsible gun owners is the minute that the government can do whatever they want to you look at Australia hell no
 
Hannah Capps said:
I’m sorry but you’re not gonna disarm me over planned and propagated tragedies… You’ll have to pry my gun out of my cold dead hands the minute the citizens are disarmed from being responsible gun owners is the minute that the government can do whatever they want to you look at Australia hell no
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I've seen a few references to Australia in this thread. I'd like to see some actual Aussies weigh in on this topic.
 
Jerry Atrick said:
I've seen a few references to Australia in this thread. I'd like to see some actual Aussies weigh in on this topic.
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Why? They're in the same position as us slimy limeys. Completely neutered by their government and brow beaten into accepting this pathetic state of affairs where you can't protect yourself and are at the complete mercy of the establishment protecting you. Which in the UK's case.. they deliberately closed many of our police stations (my towns one is gone) and can't be fucked to do anything except police online hate crimes aka narrative busting posts.

Either you see it for what it is, which is a prelude to tyranny and a fucking disgrace, or you willingly accept the propaganda and embrace being a pussified little bitch who hopes to ride life out by not becoming a statistic of injury or death (or a loved one becoming likewise) when confronted with crime and the police come long after it is committed.

UK news today:
Police fail to solve a single burglary in nearly half of the country

Taking away peoples right to protect themselves is like asking a Lion to give up its claws. Fucking stupid.
 
Interesting. There's a link to download the PDF on the website below

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Machine Learning Can Predict Shooting Victimization Well Enough to Help Prevent It

Founded in 1920, the NBER is a private, non-profit, non-partisan organization dedicated to conducting economic research and to disseminating research findings among academics, public policy makers, and business professionals.
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Hannah Capps said:
I’m sorry but you’re not gonna disarm me over planned and propagated tragedies… You’ll have to pry my gun out of my cold dead hands the minute the citizens are disarmed from being responsible gun owners is the minute that the government can do whatever they want to you look at Australia hell no
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Based. Yep look at Canada too, they are literally being experimented on and subjugated by their government. It’s genuinely sad to watch bc there are good people in these places, and they don’t deserve this.
 
Dropperneck said:
The establishment is trying to use the children to get firearms out of the hands of legal owners. Most of the people I talk to all agree that literally every child could die, and there would be zero change in my position.
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I don't know if you've read every page in this thread but there are tons of common sense gun control measures being proposed that DO NOT involve taking guns out of any legal owners' hands. Many of them made by gun owners themselves. Your slippery slope argument is merely a hypothetical spewed by the gun establishment to justify not doing anything about the problem.

But as you stated yourself, it's a hopeless cause since people like you could care less how many children die. Y'all still won't do anything. smh
 
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Why? They're in the same position as us slimy limeys. Completely neutered by their government and brow beaten into accepting this pathetic state of affairs where you can't protect yourself and are at the complete mercy of the establishment protecting you. Which in the UK's case.. they deliberately closed many of our police stations (my towns one is gone) and can't be fucked to do anything except police online hate crimes aka narrative busting posts.

Either you see it for what it is, which is a prelude to tyranny and a fucking disgrace, or you willingly accept the propaganda and embrace being a pussified little bitch who hopes to ride life out by not becoming a statistic of injury or death (or a loved one becoming likewise) when confronted with crime and the police come long after it is committed.

UK news today:
Police fail to solve a single burglary in nearly half of the country

Taking away peoples right to protect themselves is like asking a Lion to give up its claws. Fucking stupid.
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The poster I quoted didn't say UK, they said Australia.

Besides, since you are going to make wild comparisons between your country and others, I guess you won't consider that the pendulum swings both ways: Your country may have problems with police solving crimes before they happen but my country has an epidemic of the police murdering unarmed people for crimes that do not justify lethal force. What is a fucking disgrace is that tragedies like Uvalde and Buffalo happen all the fucking time. Way more than the UK or Australia for that matter.

You talk a big game but have you ever even fired a gun? Or hunted and killed an animal bigger than yourself? If not then you are contributing nothing to this thread other than an uneducated opinion. This thread is not the UK mass shooting thread. The OP is talking about the US. Remember? The UK doesn't have a mass shooting problem on the massive scale of the US. So please quit yapping about things you know nothing about other than what you see on TV.
 
Jerry Atrick said:
there are tons of common sense gun control measures being proposed that DO NOT involve taking guns out of any legal owners' hands. Many of them made by gun owners themselves. Your slippery slope argument is merely a hypothetical spewed by the gun establishment to justify not doing anything about the problem.
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spot on.

Jerry Atrick said:
it's a hopeless cause since people like you could care less how many children die.
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some gun owners at least have the integrity to say publicly that thousands of victims of gun crime is simply the price society pays so they can have a gun.

but many don’t…

alasdair
 
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alasdairm said:
some gun owners at least have the integrity to say publicly that thousands of victims of gun crime is simply the price society pays so they can have a gun.

but many don’t …

alasdair
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You are correct. We can at least give him credit for being honest.
 
Jerry Atrick said:
The poster I quoted didn't say UK, they said Australia.

Besides, since you are going to make wild comparisons between your country and others, I guess you won't consider that the pendulum swings both ways: Your country may have problems with police solving crimes before they happen but my country has an epidemic of the police murdering unarmed people for crimes that do not justify lethal force. What is a fucking disgrace is that tragedies like Uvalde and Buffalo happen all the fucking time. Way more than the UK or Australia for that matter.

You talk a big game but have you ever even fired a gun? Or hunted and killed an animal bigger than yourself? If not then you are contributing nothing to this thread other than an uneducated opinion. This thread is not the UK mass shooting thread. The OP is talking about the US. Remember? The UK doesn't have a mass shooting problem on the massive scale of the US. So please quit yapping about things you know nothing about other than what you see on TV.
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Yeah, see this is the problem in a nutshell. You American's think this issue is special to you and your gun situation. People continually and correctly point out that the real cause of the issue has nothing to do with guns what so ever (guns are inanimate objects). The UK clearly demonstrates why this is the case, given we have no legal gun culture on a massive scale and yet still have murders and other life altering violence, including gun crime! We have guns, stabbings, acid attacks and the occasional Islamic terrorist attack.. all the colours of the slainbow. True diversity.

The issue is psychological. You can't accept the fact that it is possible to live peacefully with mass gun ownership, that guns aren't the issue, because to do so immediately reveals the issue is you (American's). Of course the truth is nuanced and you have to break it down further than just 'American's'; drug use (legal and illegal), poorly administration of gun ownership criteria, poor training and recruitment administration in the police, etc.

Conversely we Brit's can't accept the fact that banning firearms hasn't worked, because to do so immediately reveals that 'multi-culturalism' has failed.. the overwhelming majority of violent crime with weapons is committed by feral black youth, Islamic nutjobs, and 'travellers'.

Framing the entire argument around gun ownership is such a trite oversimplification. It appeals only to emotion, which as we know is the key methodology of the politician and those with agendas, those who don't want to sit down and hash out a discussion and possible solutions.
 
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Yeah, see this is the problem in a nutshell. You American's think this issue is special to you and your gun situation. People continually and correctly point out that the real cause of the issue has nothing to do with guns what so ever (guns are inanimate objects). The UK clearly demonstrates why this is the case, given we have no legal gun culture on a massive scale and yet still have murders and other life altering violence, including gun crime! We have guns, stabbings, acid attacks and the occasional Islamic terrorist attack.. all the colours of the slainbow. True diversity.

The issue is psychological. You can't accept the fact that it is possible to live peacefully with mass gun ownership, that guns aren't the issue, because to do so immediately reveals the issue is you (American's). Of course the truth is nuanced and you have to break it down further than just 'American's'; drug use (legal and illegal), poorly administration of gun ownership criteria, poor training and recruitment administration in the police, etc.

Conversely we Brit's can't accept the fact that banning firearms hasn't worked, because to do so immediately reveals that 'multi-culturalism' has failed.. the overwhelming majority of violent crime with weapons is committed by feral black youth, Islamic nutjobs, and 'travellers'.

Framing the entire argument around gun ownership is such a trite oversimplification. It appeals only to emotion, which as we know is the key methodology of the politician and those with agendas, those who don't want to sit down and hash out a discussion and possible solutions.
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I haven't done the math and don't feel like I have to, so have all the gun, stabbings, acid, and terrorist attacks together in the UK added up to over 45,000 deaths per year? Has the UK had over 200 mass killings by whatever method in the first 6 months of 2022?

I'll wait for answers to those questions even though you still didn't answer the questions in my previous post.
 
I don’t think arming all teachers is a good idea, but if there is a teacher that wants to have a gun and is willing to complete some kind of course that helps them understand how and when to use the gun that might be helpful, I think just knowing there are armed teachers might stop some shootings before they even happen, I imagine some people choose schools cause they know there will be no one with a gun to stop them
 
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