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Mass Shooting and Gun Control Megathread

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List of mass shootings in the United States in 2022 - Wikipedia

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Total so far (not including May): 202
Total dead: 221
Total wounded: 790

There are multiple definitions of "mass shooting", but the most agreed upon is 'four or more people shot and injured/killed in a single incident'. So this list doesn't really include hundreds if not thousands of other incidences of gun violence and murder.

It's bizarre how I have only personally heard of a handful of these incidents. Many do not even make national news in this country, only local or maybe state wide news. In a gun crazy country, this is not even newsworthy.

All of my local highschools (large city) have recently installed full body scanning machines required for entry combined with every kid required to wear translucent backpacks to school. They confiscated dozens of guns which were brought to school last year.

It's weird to me how a large portion of this country just deems this as a normal consequence of "freedom".

I am not anti-gun at all and believe in the 2nd amendment (though, not unconditionally in all facets such as assault rifles). Nor do I think there is a simple solution to this problem.

But something has to change... what is the solution?

Personally I think more intensive background checks and some sort of "license renewal" or check up on gun owners and their mental health would be a good start.


abcnews.go.com

Suspect fired 50 rounds in Buffalo supermarket hate crime shooting that killed 10: Police

Reported mass shooting in upstate New York TOPS Friendly Markets
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here's the latest, 10 dead at a grocery store, suspected hate crime
 
If I am not mistaken, most of these mass shootings are acted out with "legal" (registered) firearms.
Could be wrong just what I seem to remember from past reports.
What can be done about it? Nothing probably... anyone with a printer can create a papergun. Well, not paper but printed anyway.
Bloodshed seems to be the answer and its pushed relentlessly imo.
 
Guns only good if you can put bullets in it...seriously restrict the sale of ammunition ...maybe a start ...too many guns legal and illegal out there.Dont know if that would make lots of difference...ppl will always finds ways to get what they want or need
 
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Negentropic said:

List of mass shootings in the United States in 2022 - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org en.wikipedia.org

Total so far (not including May): 202
Total dead: 221
Total wounded: 790

There are multiple definitions of "mass shooting", but the most agreed upon is 'four or more people shot and injured/killed in a single incident'. So this list doesn't really include hundreds if not thousands of other incidences of gun violence and murder.

It's bizarre how I have only personally heard of a handful of these incidents. Many do not even make national news in this country, only local or maybe state wide news. In a gun crazy country, this is not even newsworthy.

All of my local highschools (large city) have recently installed full body scanning machines required for entry combined with every kid required to wear translucent backpacks to school. They confiscated dozens of guns which were brought to school last year.

It's weird to me how a large portion of this country just deems this as a normal consequence of "freedom".

I am not anti-gun at all and believe in the 2nd amendment (though, not unconditionally in all facets such as assault rifles). Nor do I think there is a simple solution to this problem.

But something has to change... what is the solution?

Personally I think more intensive background checks and some sort of "license renewal" or check up on gun owners and their mental health would be a good start.


abcnews.go.com

Suspect fired 50 rounds in Buffalo supermarket hate crime shooting that killed 10: Police

Reported mass shooting in upstate New York TOPS Friendly Markets
abcnews.go.com abcnews.go.com

here's the latest, 10 dead at a grocery store, suspected hate crime
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The Buffalo mass shooting. The supposedly the perp posted a very long manifesto where he used similar rhetoric as Tucker Carlson re: essentially white people are going to become the minority. Also some neo-nazi stuff thrown in. So we have one more white MAGAt that was taken alive by police where a black person would be shot just for moving his hands too fast. Of course the media normally says this type of person is a lone wolf with mental health problems and was bullied as a kid. Not the white supremacist domestic terrorist that he is.

Hmm, what do these folks have in common?


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Dropperneck said:
I always found it interesting that the shooters race basically lines up perfect with the demographics of the US. I crack up when state media paints latinos as white. I guess people believe this stuff still.
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was the buffalo shooter Latino ?
 
There are two kinds of solution:

1. Better laws
2. Better people

Banning guns is not a better law, since it's obviously totalitarian.

Population IQ is often overlooked.

Better law is downstream from better people so actually that's the only major one...

So, what can any single person do about this? Be as good a person as possible. Banning guns and thus being a totalitarian anti-intellectual defeatist coward of course has nothing to do with being a good person.
 
mal3volent said:
have European countries found a way to prevent knife/acid/vehicle attacks yet?
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It's pretty difficult to kill 10 people with a knife in 2 minutes, nigh impossible I'd think.

But yeah not much a simple problem to fix... The country has created a monster of itself. Not just one monster, either.
 
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Negentropic said:
It's pretty difficult to kill 10 people with a knife in 2 minutes, nigh impossible I'd think.

To me the glaring issue in this is easily accessible assault rifles and or other things like pistols with extended magazines, body armor, etc
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buffalo shooter had all the ammo in the world, military style gun, etc. killed 10.

Guy in Toronto with vehicle drives into crowd kills 10.

London bridge knife attack kills 8 injures dozens more

So... do you think the biggest problem is the availability of guns or mental health/other random factors?
 
mal3volent said:
buffalo shooter had all the ammo in the world, military style gun, etc. killed 10.

Guy in Toronto with vehicle drives into crowd kills 10.

London bridge knife attack kills 8 injures dozens more

So... do you think the biggest problem is the availability of guns or mental health/other random factors?
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Hmm. Why aren't there more mass vehicle attacks in the US? Why is the preferred method of mass violence guns?

Something to ponder.

The only reason buffalo kid only killed 10 is because the police responded extremely quickly within 2 minutes. I'm sure he wanted more, that's an extremely quick response and resulting arrest.

And no I don't think guns are the only reason, as I've said I respect the 2nd amendment and don't really think taking people's guns is something that should be done, nor do I even think it's possible.

Here's an idea... We have cameras almost everywhere in public places now. What if we added AI recognition to these cameras specifically designed to detect people wearing long guns or body armor? Or designed to detect people running or in distress? Maybe impractical, but I'm trying to find solutions.
 
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