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Mass Shooting and Gun Control Megathread

Fire&Water said:
Did our fearless leader even mention this hero
Fuck No
he might have to give some praise to our (open) border patrol

just another worthless dog&pony show as usual

I mean donkey&elephant
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yeah, such a disappointment they never mentioned this hero.....

if he showed up before the killer....0
none of these kids would have died

true badass tho, other cops were tazering mothers at the time..... but yeah that guy was a badass and did his job

...'murica
 
Electrum1 said:
Yeah, I think if we could offer teens access to trade schools for free that teach physical skills where they can then open businesses, without having to accumulate financial debt from student loans, that would make a difference. Would also create higher birthrates imo, since they'd be financially able to support a family at an earlier age. Basically keep them busy during the riskier years (under 25 imo) and once they have a career and family they'll be much more stable

I think the issue in the U.S. is much more socially related than due to guns simply existing
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See? This is an actual, real, practical solution to offer! Nice one. You should talk to your local government about that.

maassive said:
Massshootings = (G x P)
where:
G = Guns
P = People who don't give a fuck ( due any number of factors including inherent Human Nature)

It's not rocket surgery.
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No.

Las Veghost grower said:
So then what’s the solution aside from more strict background checks ? Cause getting rid of rifles won’t stop the problem people will use pistols then what get rid of pistols ? It’s easy to see how they knock one thing off at a time
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There isn't ONE solution though dude. America has been so royally fucked for such a long time that it's going to take many different changes and probably at least a good 10 years before we see a significant change. And that's even IF any change occurs.....

One of the biggest problems that I dont think I've seen anyone mention yet is that the American culture is solidly based on FEAR. It is unlike any other country I've ever been to. England is a little bit similar but nowhere near as bad.
 
Snafu in the Void said:
yeah the politicians have nothing to do with it.....

....the ones who have prevented the very "solutions" everyone has been coming up with for DECADES

"lone mentally ill wolf".... how many times are we going to hear this until people realize change needs to happen?
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We we could move forward with the "defund the Police" movement and hire more social workers ???
 
Snafu in the Void said:
can you please continue the discussion other than some weak ass insult?

I don't mind being called a whiny liberal (which I'm not), but at least say something else productive that I can go off of
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You are the perfect example of what's wrong with the left. Your entire rant is about guns and almost nothing about the mentally ill individual or the poor victims. So your argument would be if he went in a stabbed 10, that would be acceptable ?? you people miss the mark sooooo bad on issues like this.
 
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Wally2024 said:
You are the perfect example of what's wrong with the left. Your entire rant is about guns and almost nothing about the mentally ill individual or the pore victims. So your argument would be if he went in a stabbed 10, that would be acceptable ?? you people miss the mark sooooo bad on issues like this.
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Lol dude, you clearly have no idea about his background or opinions. You must not have read his posts correctly. That's not what he is saying at all.
 
Guns are NEVER going away. If you take them from the law abiding citizens then only the bad guys would have them but it's a mute point because over 50% of the population own a gun and will NEVER give em up. I'm a gun owner and totally agree with tough laws involving background checks etc. But we don't enforce the laws we have and then each time a tragedy like this happens, it's all about the guns. We have a serious problem with mental illness in our young people that is going completely ignored while politicians cry about more gun control. We need to fix the problem with these youngsters and I don't know how but I do know that is where we need to focus our attention.
 
Wally2024 said:
Guns are NEVER going away. If you take them from the law abiding citizens then only the bad guys would have them but it's a mute point because over 50% of the population own a gun and will NEVER give em up. I'm a gun owner and totally agree with tough laws involving background checks etc. But we don't enforce the laws we have and then each time a tragedy like this happens, it's all about the guns. We have a serious problem with mental illness in our young people that is going completely ignored while politicians cry about more gun control. We need to fix the problem with these youngsters and I don't know how but I do know that is where we need to focus our attention.
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Nah dude, see, I think that's what is different this time. People AREN'T just saying "it's all about the guns". People ARE saying "well fuck.....what's the real problem(s) here?". And that's just the thing, it's not ONE problem. There are a wholllle bunch of problems that yall need to fix. That's why America is so totally fucked.
A culture fundamentally based on fear.
Fear of each other.
Fear of authority.
Fear of outsiders.
Fear of the future.
Fear of sickness, death, poverty.
Then there is the lack of funding and services to:
Mental health
Youth care
LGBTQ+ and minority groups
Womens health
AND then there's the drug problem
And the prisons being overpopulated

And even after all of that, if you introduce gun buyback schemes and get rid of even 50% of guns, that will make an IMMENSE and significant difference in the amount of gun deaths.

Your argument about "well bad guys will always have guns so we may as well not bother addressing the gun issue at all" is fucking ridiculous. Every country in the world has bad guys with guns. Not every country has a gun death toll problem, only America does. Less guns = less gun deaths.
 
At the end of the day I respect people like snaffy for their ideals, I want to live in a perfect world too..but in my own experience of this life a lot of the time it’s just wishful thinking, maybe I’m to much of a pessimist but , eh
 
n3ophy7e said:
Nah dude, see, I think that's what is different this time. People AREN'T just saying "it's all about the guns". People ARE saying "well fuck.....what's the real problem(s) here?". And that's just the thing, it's not ONE problem. There are a wholllle bunch of problems that yall need to fix. That's why America is so totally fucked.
A culture fundamentally based on fear.
Fear of each other.
Fear of authority.
Fear of outsiders.
Fear of the future.
Fear of sickness, death, poverty.
Then there is the lack of funding and services to:
Mental health
Youth care
LGBTQ+ and minority groups
Womens health
AND then there's the drug problem
And the prisons being overpopulated

And even after all of that, if you introduce gun buyback schemes and get rid of even 50% of guns, that will make an IMMENSE and significant difference in the amount of gun deaths.

Your argument about "well bad guys will always have guns so we may as well not bother addressing the gun issue at all" is fucking ridiculous. Every country in the world has bad guys with guns. Not every country has a gun death toll problem, only America does. Less guns = less gun deaths.
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Well don’t forget apparently 60% of gun deaths are self inflicted, so naturally people wanting to kill themself will choose a gun if the option is there
 
n3ophy7e said:
Nah dude, see, I think that's what is different this time. People AREN'T just saying "it's all about the guns". People ARE saying "well fuck.....what's the real problem(s) here?". And that's just the thing, it's not ONE problem. There are a wholllle bunch of problems that yall need to fix. That's why America is so totally fucked.
A culture fundamentally based on fear.
Fear of each other.
Fear of authority.
Fear of outsiders.
Fear of the future.
Fear of sickness, death, poverty.
Then there is the lack of funding and services to:
Mental health
Youth care
LGBTQ+ and minority groups
Womens health
AND then there's the drug problem
And the prisons being overpopulated

And even after all of that, if you introduce gun buyback schemes and get rid of even 50% of guns, that will make an IMMENSE and significant difference in the amount of gun deaths.

Your argument about "well bad guys will always have guns so we may as well not bother addressing the gun issue at all" is fucking ridiculous. Every country in the world has bad guys with guns. Not every country has a gun death toll problem, only America does. Less guns = less gun deaths.
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Fear sells - and people dial in - so yes the media is based on fear

we're also the land of outsiders - we don't really fear outsiders - that's only what you read, which of course, is based on fear - so i don't agree with that - their isn't a bigger melting pot anywhere else in the world

and if we were really fearful, i would think more than 65% of us would be fully vaxxed for covid - right?

they did a poll recently that only 10% of the population is even worried about covid anymore - but they're still pushing the story.....because that's how they all get paid - and we're moslty all aware of that


for the most part, we go about our business, not too worried about things on a day to day basis, which is why we get caught with our pants down sometimes
 
GUNS AND CONTROL

Turkey established gun control in 1911. Soon after, 1.5 million Armenians unable to defend themselves were rounded up and exterminated.

The Soviet Union established gun control in 1929. Soon after, about 20 million dissidents unable to defend themselves were rounded up and exterminated.

China established gun control in 1935. Soon after, 20 million political dissidents unable to defend themselves were rounded up and exterminated.

Germany established gun control in 1938. Soon after, a total of 13 million Jews and others who were unable to defend themselves were rounded up and exterminated.

Cambodia established gun control in 1956. Soon after, one million people unable to defend themselves were rounded up and exterminated.

Guatemala established gun control in 1964. Soon after, 100,000 Mayan Indians unable to defend themselves were rounded up and exterminated.

Uganda established gun control in 1970. Soon after, 300,000 Christians unable to defend themselves were rounded up and exterminated.

Australia established gun control in 1996. Right now, Australian citizens are being brutalized and terrorized by their tyrannical government.

Venezuela established Desarma La Violencia to disarm citizens in 2010. Once one of the richest countries in Latin America, Venezuela is currently free falling into violent unrest and extreme poverty.

New Zealand expanded gun control in 2019. Right now, New Zealand citizens are being brutalized and terrorized by their tyrannical government.

Canada expanded gun control in 2020. Right now, Canadian citizens are being brutalized and terrorized by their tyrannical government.

WHO’S NEXT?
 
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